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 | | From: | 98765 4321 | | Subject: | Re: ~ SURPRISE! AMERICA STILL COMMITING TORTURE! ~ | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:00:41 -0500 |
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 | On 23 Jan 2005 11:44:08 -0800, "~ THE MOSUL MARAUDERS ~"
wrote:
>WASHINGTON: Eleven Kuwaiti prisoners held by American forces at the
>prison at the Guantanamo Bay naval base show signs of poor diet and
>physical and psychological abuse, and are held in conditions "worse
>than those for the worst convicted murderers or rapists in the United
>States," according to an attorney who recently visited them at the
>detention facility in Cuba. The attorney, Thomas Wilner, said he
>believes that while conditions for detainees have improved in recent
>months, physical mistreatment has continued even after a Dec 30
>government memo renounced the use of torture.
Yes, you are so right. I think you are probably a genius. We should
just release all of the prisoners of the Iraq war right now. They
could then go back to their jobs as well respected doctors and lawyers
and school teachers. How dare the USA keep them from their tasks. They
should all receive at least a million dollars to help ease their
suffering from being held prisoner by the evil Americans. Yes, by
golly, lets do that so they can all finally afford one of those nice
surface to air missiles that cost so much. Before they go, we should
cater a nice big dinner for all of them every night so we can return
them to their terrorism in good health and well fed.
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| | From: | Barney | | Subject: | Re: ~ SURPRISE! AMERICA STILL COMMITING TORTURE! ~ | | Date: | 23 Jan 2005 22:52:18 GMT |
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| 98765 4321 <12345@6789.org> had
writtennews:b708v0d8h3sodilk6vpr193nmmhgg1pcbg@4ax.com:
How dare the USA keep
> them from their tasks.
They are apparently being held without charge. You are suggesting they
have been charged for a crime. Perhaps then they are entitled to the
justice system of most countries. You have convicted them against US
policy!
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Barney __________________________
Talk is cheap! Thats why I can afford it.
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| | From: | 98765 4321 | | Subject: | Re: ~ SURPRISE! AMERICA STILL COMMITING TORTURE! ~ | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:11:31 -0500 |
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| On 23 Jan 2005 22:52:18 GMT, Barney wrote:
>98765 4321 <12345@6789.org> had
>writtennews:b708v0d8h3sodilk6vpr193nmmhgg1pcbg@4ax.com:
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> How dare the USA keep
>> them from their tasks.
>
>They are apparently being held without charge. You are suggesting they
>have been charged for a crime. Perhaps then they are entitled to the
>justice system of most countries. You have convicted them against US
>policy!
I see. I see. You are so smart. Now I know that even when a person who
is a terrorist or spy, by most international standards, is captured,
they have to be treated the same as the people who abide by those very
same standards. How foolish of anyone to think that the reason for
those standards are to require all civilized countries of the world to
abide by human decency, or else. What retards. What standards do you
and I then live by? If a person acts like a savage when entering
battle, then all who fight that person have the basic human right to
respond in the same manner if desired. The rules of engagement would
have already ben set by the attacking party. That's the one I've
always lived by. Can I still be in your gang if I believe that? Man, I
wish I had your brains man. You obviously think more clearly than I.
Please, tell me, how does one deal with a person with no scruples, no
morals? I want to learn from you. Please share your wisdom.
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| | From: | Grantland | | Subject: | Re: ~ SURPRISE! AMERICA STILL COMMITING TORTURE! ~ | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 06:25:38 GMT |
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| 98765 4321 <12345@6789.org> wrote:
>On 23 Jan 2005 22:52:18 GMT, Barney wrote:
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>>98765 4321 <12345@6789.org> had
>>writtennews:b708v0d8h3sodilk6vpr193nmmhgg1pcbg@4ax.com:
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>> How dare the USA keep
>>> them from their tasks.
>>
>>They are apparently being held without charge. You are suggesting they
>>have been charged for a crime. Perhaps then they are entitled to the
>>justice system of most countries. You have convicted them against US
>>policy!
>
>I see. I see. You are so smart. Now I know that even when a person who
>is a terrorist or spy, by most international standards, is captured,
>they have to be treated the same as the people who abide by those very
>same standards. How foolish of anyone to think that the reason for
>those standards are to require all civilized countries of the world to
>abide by human decency, or else. What retards. What standards do you
>and I then live by? If a person acts like a savage when entering
>battle, then all who fight that person have the basic human right to
>respond in the same manner if desired. The rules of engagement would
>have already ben set by the attacking party. That's the one I've
>always lived by. Can I still be in your gang if I believe that? Man, I
>wish I had your brains man. You obviously think more clearly than I.
>Please, tell me, how does one deal with a person with no scruples, no
>morals? I want to learn from you. Please share your wisdom.
Today is Auschwitz day, a glorious remembrance of shoving an eight
inch blade into the Jew face, over and over again. Thank you for
reminding us why it was such a pleasure.
Grantland
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| | From: | Jeffrey Salzberg | | Subject: | Re: ~ SURPRISE! AMERICA STILL COMMITING TORTURE! ~ | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:14:23 -0500 |
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| In article , 12345@6789.org
says...
> I see. I see. You are so smart. Now I know that even when a person who
> is a terrorist or spy, by most international standards, is captured,
Actually, according to the Red Cross, most of the prisoners in Abu
Ghraib were arrested in arbitrary roundups and had no connection with
any terrorist groups.
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| | From: | Barney | | Subject: | Re: ~ SURPRISE! AMERICA STILL COMMITING TORTURE! ~ | | Date: | 24 Jan 2005 04:57:15 GMT |
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| spammersmustdie@volcanomail.com (Jeffrey Salzberg) had
writtennews:MPG.1c5e07e2fc602139989e76@news.comcast.giganews.com:
> Actually, according to the Red Cross, most of the prisoners in Abu
> Ghraib were arrested in arbitrary roundups and had no connection
> with any terrorist groups.
>
According to the poster, it don't mater as long as as the Americans
want to.
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Barney __________________________
Talk is cheap! Thats why I can afford it.
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| | From: | Barney | | Subject: | Re: ~ SURPRISE! AMERICA STILL COMMITING TORTURE! ~ | | Date: | 24 Jan 2005 04:55:05 GMT |
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| 98765 4321 <12345@6789.org> had
writtennews:jhe8v05dpt11ti57uqqknsig74v4p9e4eg@4ax.com:
> On 23 Jan 2005 22:52:18 GMT, Barney wrote:
>
>>98765 4321 <12345@6789.org> had
>>writtennews:b708v0d8h3sodilk6vpr193nmmhgg1pcbg@4ax.com:
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>> How dare the USA keep
>>> them from their tasks.
>>
>>They are apparently being held without charge. You are suggesting
>>they have been charged for a crime. Perhaps then they are entitled
>>to the justice system of most countries. You have convicted them
>>against US policy!
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> I see. I see. You are so smart. Now I know that even when a person
> who is a terrorist or spy, by most international standards, is
> captured, they have to be treated the same as the people who abide
> by those very same standards.
snip
Please share your wisdom.
>
If I was wise I wouldn't bother sharing my opinion with you. In Iraq
its the Americans who are the terroists much like thay have been in
several countries all over the world. You suggest those countries
therefore are intitled to do the same. Your country has complained
how rulers in various countries, including Iraq, have commited the
same offences Americans do now. The difference being, those rulers
commited the offences in their own country and to their own people.
You obviously can't see that point because you are American. It
would be unpatriotic to think elsewise. Judge, jury and policemen
without any other authority other then that self appointed.
--
Barney __________________________
Talk is cheap! Thats why I can afford it.
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| | From: | Don W. McCollough | | Subject: | Re: ~ SURPRISE! AMERICA STILL COMMITING TORTURE! ~ | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:45:28 GMT |
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"98765 4321" <12345@6789.org> wrote in message
news:b708v0d8h3sodilk6vpr193nmmhgg1pcbg@4ax.com...
> On 23 Jan 2005 11:44:08 -0800, "~ THE MOSUL MARAUDERS ~"
> wrote:
>
>>WASHINGTON: Eleven Kuwaiti prisoners held by American forces at the
>>prison at the Guantanamo Bay naval base show signs of poor diet and
>>physical and psychological abuse, and are held in conditions "worse
>>than those for the worst convicted murderers or rapists in the United
>>States," according to an attorney who recently visited them at the
>>detention facility in Cuba. The attorney, Thomas Wilner, said he
>>believes that while conditions for detainees have improved in recent
>>months, physical mistreatment has continued even after a Dec 30
>>government memo renounced the use of torture.
>
> Yes, you are so right. I think you are probably a genius. We should
> just release all of the prisoners of the Iraq war right now. They
> could then go back to their jobs as well respected doctors and lawyers
> and school teachers. How dare the USA keep them from their tasks. They
> should all receive at least a million dollars to help ease their
> suffering from being held prisoner by the evil Americans. Yes, by
> golly, lets do that so they can all finally afford one of those nice
> surface to air missiles that cost so much. Before they go, we should
> cater a nice big dinner for all of them every night so we can return
> them to their terrorism in good health and well fed.
Oh God enough with the sarcasm....If your gonna use sarcasm
have an edge to it dork.
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