Hi, first post here - well for a long time anyway.

I am after some help on where to get a gag/mouth cover that can be locked in
place on my partner so that she could not remove it even with her hands
free.

Idea is to leave her free but unable to eat or drink and with her speech
restricted or silenced.

Don't want to go so far as a hood. Already have a leather neck corset that
comes up far enough to cover her mouth and stops her opening her mouth but
this is time consuming and a bit more restrictive than I want.

Any ideas. She gags easily so holding her mouth wide open or putting too
much inside is not an option.

Thanks in advance for any help.

From:	Violet Tigress
Subject:	Re: Help with lockable gag/mouth cover ideas please
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:00:14 -0800

In article ,
"Hugh" wrote:

> Any ideas. She gags easily so holding her mouth wide open or putting too
> much inside is not an option.
*************
How considerate of you to consider her difficulty with gagging. Being
someone with a hyper sensitive gag reflex myself, it pissees me off when
people ignore it, or tell you that with enough practice you can
overcome it.

From:	Brian
Subject:	Re: Help with lockable gag/mouth cover ideas please
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:17:26 GMT

"Violet Tigress" wrote in message
news:kismit-7168AF.14001417012005@news.isp.giganews.com...
> In article ,
> "Hugh" wrote:
>
>> Any ideas. She gags easily so holding her mouth wide open or putting too
>> much inside is not an option.
> *************
> How considerate of you to consider her difficulty with gagging. Being
> someone with a hyper sensitive gag reflex myself, it pissees me off when
> people ignore it, or tell you that with enough practice you can
> overcome it.

Yes indeed, I gagged when I was having some dental X rays done a couple of
years ago!

Brian

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From:	Violet Tigress
Subject:	Re: Help with lockable gag/mouth cover ideas please
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:51:23 -0800

In article ,
"Brian" wrote:

> Yes indeed, I gagged when I was having some dental X rays done a couple of
> years ago!
************
I will never understand how watching & listening to someone gagging &
wretching could possibly be y.

From:	Janet Hardy
Subject:	Re: Help with lockable gag/mouth cover ideas please
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:01:23 -0800

Violet Tigress wrote:
> In article ,
> "Brian" wrote:
>
>
>>Yes indeed, I gagged when I was having some dental X rays done a couple of
>>years ago!
>
> ************
> I will never understand how watching & listening to someone gagging & wretching could possibly be y.

Doesn't do it for me either, but I know at least one top who's
specifically kinked for putting his fingers down his partner's throat to
make her gag. Ugol et al.

Janet

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From:	SilverOz
Subject:	Re: Help with lockable gag/mouth cover ideas please
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:40:57 GMT

In soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm on Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:01:23 -0800
Janet Hardy wrote:
>
>
> Violet Tigress wrote:
>> In article ,
>> "Brian" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Yes indeed, I gagged when I was having some dental X rays done a couple of
>>>years ago!
>>
>> ************
>> I will never understand how watching & listening to someone gagging & wretching could possibly be y.
>
> Doesn't do it for me either, but I know at least one top who's
> specifically kinked for putting his fingers down his partner's throat to
> make her gag. Ugol et al.
>

I can see it. It's a control and power issue. To make someone
uncomfortable, to take the power from them by triggering a very
unpleasant reflex, and there's also a lot of baggage about not being
"dirty" which can really get to someone.

SilverOz

From:	StarGapper
Subject:	Re: Help with lockable gag/mouth cover ideas please
Date:	21 Jan 2005 05:06:04 -0800

If you don't have a saddlery near you, go to a pet store and buy a
rubber bone. Get a long shoestring and tie it tight to each end. Cut
the ends of the shoestring off to get rid of those little plastic
string ends. You now have a large loop. Snip the shoestring in the
middle and that converts it into 2 ties. When you tie it on, make sure
the knot is tight. Then cut off the excess. It's not lockable, but if
the knots are tight enough in the shoestring, they can't be untied.
The way out is with scissors or a knife, so hide those.

-sg

SilverOz wrote:
> In soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm on Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:12:18 -0000
> Hugh <> wrote:
> > Hi, first post here - well for a long time anyway.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am after some help on where to get a gag/mouth cover that can be
locked in
> > place on my partner so that she could not remove it even with her
hands
> > free.
> >
> >
> >
> > Idea is to leave her free but unable to eat or drink and with her
speech
> > restricted or silenced.
>
> Go to a saddlery, get a pony sized rubber bit.
>
> Go to a petshop, get a dog collar.
>
> If you have leatherworking gear, use that to attach collar to bit,
else
> in a pinch you can use cable ties instead.
>
> The advantage of bit gags is that you can vomit through them as long
as
> you can get your head leaned well forward. This meansthat locking on
> isn't as dangerous as it would be with a more restrictive gag.
>
> Note that if she wants to, she can drink through it, but at that
point
> you will need to work on why she wants to - you have a problem that's
> nothing to do with bondage. The bit gag makes a good "reason" not
to,
> but not a complete prevention.
>
> SilverOz

From:	Violet Tigress
Subject:	Re: Help with lockable gag/mouth cover ideas please
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:03:45 -0800

In article <1106312764.583500.286000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"StarGapper" wrote:

> If you don't have a saddlery near you, go to a pet store and buy a
> rubber bone.
********
I love the rubber bone idea, I'll have to try it one day.

From:	SilverOz
Subject:	Re: Help with lockable gag/mouth cover ideas please
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:50:49 GMT

In soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm on Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:12:18 -0000
Hugh <> wrote:
> Hi, first post here - well for a long time anyway.
>
>
>
> I am after some help on where to get a gag/mouth cover that can be locked in
> place on my partner so that she could not remove it even with her hands
> free.
>
>
>
> Idea is to leave her free but unable to eat or drink and with her speech
> restricted or silenced.

Go to a saddlery, get a pony sized rubber bit.

Go to a petshop, get a dog collar.

If you have leatherworking gear, use that to attach collar to bit, else
in a pinch you can use cable ties instead.

The advantage of bit gags is that you can vomit through them as long as
you can get your head leaned well forward. This meansthat locking on
isn't as dangerous as it would be with a more restrictive gag.

Note that if she wants to, she can drink through it, but at that point
you will need to work on why she wants to - you have a problem that's
nothing to do with bondage. The bit gag makes a good "reason" not to,
but not a complete prevention.

SilverOz

From:	SilverOz
Subject:	Re: Help with lockable gag/mouth cover ideas please
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:43:45 GMT

In soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm on Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:50:49 GMT
SilverOz wrote:
>
> Go to a petshop, get a dog collar.
>
> If you have leatherworking gear, use that to attach collar to bit, else
> in a pinch you can use cable ties instead.

Forgot to add... for the locking part you have a couple of options.

The easiest is to punch or drill a hole in the colar near the buckle and
a matching one in the part of the collar that goes through the buckle,
so that when the strap is buckled to the right size, the holes line up.
THen slip a small padlock through both. You can, of course, omit the
buckle entirely and just use the padlock to join the straps.

Another is possible with a larger buckle, you lock the padlock around
the tongue of the buckle.

You can do the same thing with cableties instead of padlocks. They can
be easier to manipulate, and more aesthetically pleasing, but not as
psychologically impressive. And you need decent snips to get them off.

SilverOz

From:	jacqui{JB}
Subject:	Re: Help with lockable gag/mouth cover ideas please
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:37:50 +0100

"Hugh" wrote in message
news:v9ftb2-l12.ln1@mercury.tcm.vispa.net.uk...

> I am after some help on where to get a gag/mouth
> cover that can be locked in place on my partner
> so that she could not remove it even with her hands
> free. Idea is to leave her free but unable to eat or
> drink and with her speech restricted or silenced.
>
> Don't want to go so far as a hood. Already have
> a leather neck corset that comes up far enough to
> cover her mouth and stops her opening her mouth
> but this is time consuming and a bit more restrictive
> than I want.
>
> Any ideas. She gags easily so holding her mouth
> wide open or putting too much inside is not an option.

Well, my initial thought was to try http://www.pxdirect.com/ -- they
carry prison-style restraints, including hoods and mouth covers, etc.
Unfortunately, their hoods, mouth covers, etc., are made to be used
with an otherwise restrained prisoner and, undoubtedly for safety
reasons, are not designed to be locked on. A fun browse, nonetheless,
which is why I mention them and provide the link. :)

So moving right along to some of my favorite folks, Daryl and Wolfgang
at http://www.eatleather.com/ -- they can provide you with exactly
what you want: a wrap and strap arrangement which can be locked, with
a made-to-order-size-and-shape gag, which is the sort of thing they
made for me. I have TMJ syndrome, so have trouble with large gags
(and I've [okay, my *parents* have] spent a fortune on my teeth, so I
wanted something other than a dildo-type gag which puts a lot of
pressure on the front teeth), so Daryl came up with a t-shaped gag,
which is thinner in the front and thicker where it sits between the
molars. I'm sure you could persuade him to make another (he said it
was a pain in the ass to turn through the narrow part). The gag and
strap are attached with a large velcro pad, which makes it possible to
have several gags of varying severity -- or just several gags so they
can dry out between uses, which is a nice thing, too. If you decide
to contact them, please mention that Jacqui who moved to Denmark
recommended you. :)

And if you're in the London area (I notice the .uk in your message
ID), there's a very nice shop on Holloway Road near the Islington tube
station called Fettered Pleasures:
http://www.fetteredpleasures.com/ -- they have probably the most
comprehensive inventories I've ever seen, and if you don't see what
you need, they can probably recommend someone who does or can make
what you want.

And don't forget to stop in to see House of Harlot next door:
http://www.houseofharlot.com/

Hope this helps.
-j

From:	StarGapper
Subject:	Re: Help with lockable gag/mouth cover ideas please
Date:	22 Jan 2005 14:23:59 -0800

Violet Tigress wrote:
> I love the rubber bone idea, I'll have to try it one day.
>

Ruff, ruff!

-sg