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 | | From: | The Green Troll | | Subject: | Gender role reversal sitcom from early 80's? | | Date: | 11 Oct 2004 09:20:53 -0400 |
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 | I remember watching a sitcom from about 1980-1984 that reversed gender
roles in American society. Female chauvinist executives wheeled and
dealed in offices. Their meek mates were stuck at home doing the
cooking and cleaning.
Can anyone identify the show?
-- Spud
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| | From: | Beth Diane Garfinkel | | Subject: | Re: Gender role reversal sitcom from early 80's? | | Date: | 16 Oct 2004 11:49:01 -0400 |
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| The Green Troll wrote:
> I remember watching a sitcom from about 1980-1984 that reversed gender
> roles in American society. Female chauvinist executives wheeled and
> dealed in offices. Their meek mates were stuck at home doing the
> cooking and cleaning.
> Can anyone identify the show?
This isn't it, but that sounds like an episode I saw of the Drew
Carrey show.
Beth
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| | From: | Dennis B | | Subject: | Re: Gender role reversal sitcom from early 80's? | | Date: | 16 Oct 2004 11:48:58 -0400 |
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| aloe@rev.net (The Green Troll) wrote in message news:<5f6363d3.0410102302.236f9c65@posting.google.com>...
> I remember watching a sitcom from about 1980-1984 that reversed gender
> roles in American society. Female chauvinist executives wheeled and
> dealed in offices. Their meek mates were stuck at home doing the
> cooking and cleaning.
>
> Can anyone identify the show?
>
> -- Spud
Dunno what this was, but from what I read, "Who's the Boss" was the
first TV show to have the female as primary breadwinner.
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| | From: | The Green Troll | | Subject: | Re: Gender role reversal sitcom from early 80's? | | Date: | 18 Oct 2004 16:20:52 -0400 |
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| dennis6449@yahoo.com (Dennis B) wrote in message news:<34143041.0410152114.a3fe05b@posting.google.com>...
> Dunno what this was, but from what I read, "Who's the Boss" was the
> first TV show to have the female as primary breadwinner.
Of what social unit? There were single working women on "Our Miss
Brooks", "The Ann Sothern Show", "The Lucy Show", "Julia", "The Mary
Tyler Moore Show", and "Laverne and Shirley". On "All in the Family",
Gloria worked to support student Mike (although Archie paid the
mortgage). On "Lotsa Luck", one shiftless man lived off his wife and
brother-in-law. At "Fawlty Towers", Basil's income seemed no higher
than Sybil's.
Don't trust absolute claims unless they are well-researched. How many
times have you heard that Columbus discovered America?
-- Spud
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| | From: | Dennis B | | Subject: | Re: Gender role reversal sitcom from early 80's? | | Date: | 20 Oct 2004 14:22:45 -0400 |
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| aloe@rev.net (The Green Troll) wrote in message news:<5f6363d3.0410161705.2cbc0fa7@posting.google.com>...
> dennis6449@yahoo.com (Dennis B) wrote in message news:<34143041.0410152114.a3fe05b@posting.google.com>...
> > Dunno what this was, but from what I read, "Who's the Boss" was the
> > first TV show to have the female as primary breadwinner.
>
> Of what social unit? There were single working women on "Our Miss
> Brooks", "The Ann Sothern Show", "The Lucy Show", "Julia", "The Mary
> Tyler Moore Show", and "Laverne and Shirley". On "All in the Family",
> Gloria worked to support student Mike (although Archie paid the
> mortgage). On "Lotsa Luck", one shiftless man lived off his wife and
> brother-in-law. At "Fawlty Towers", Basil's income seemed no higher
> than Sybil's.
>
It was the first show to show the female as breadwinner and the male
as homemaker in a traditional family setting. The above you mention
all qualify as showing working women, but not TOTAL role reversal - I
should have specified that.
Donna Reed's character Donna Stone went off to work on the show's
final season, for instance, but hubby Alex was still the doctor.
Gloria and Mike does come close to the aforementioned scenario, but
Archie was still working.
> Don't trust absolute claims unless they are well-researched. How many
> times have you heard that Columbus discovered America?
>
> -- Spud
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| | From: | The Green Troll | | Subject: | Re: Gender role reversal sitcom from early 80's? | | Date: | 23 Oct 2004 09:57:47 -0400 |
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| dennis6449@yahoo.com (Dennis B) wrote in message news:<34143041.0410182058.2a5d4c82@posting.google.com>...
> > dennis6449@yahoo.com (Dennis B) wrote in message news:<34143041.0410152114.a3fe05b@posting.google.com>...
> > > from what I read, "Who's the Boss" was the
> > > first TV show to have the female as primary breadwinner.
That started in 1984, with an employment relationship rather than a
marriage.
> It was the first show to show the female as breadwinner and the male
> as homemaker in a traditional family setting. The above you mention
> all qualify as showing working women, but not TOTAL role reversal
In 1977, "All That Glitters" ()
depicted a total role reversal involving several married couples.
-- Coney O'Hare
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| | From: | Michael Snyder | | Subject: | Re: Gender role reversal sitcom from early 80's? | | Date: | 20 Oct 2004 14:22:45 -0400 |
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| > aloe@rev.net (The Green Troll) wrote in message
news:<5f6363d3.0410102302.236f9c65@posting.google.com>...
> > I remember watching a sitcom from about 1980-1984 that reversed gender
> > roles in American society. Female chauvinist executives wheeled and
> > dealed in offices. Their meek mates were stuck at home doing the
> > cooking and cleaning.
> >
> > Can anyone identify the show?
> >
> > -- Spud
>
>
> Dunno what this was, but from what I read, "Who's the Boss" was the
> first TV show to have the female as primary breadwinner.
What you've read is wrong. What about "Julia"? What about
"One Day at a Time"?
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