 | | From: | David Sewell | | Subject: | Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:57:28 -0000 |
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 | I'm just interested in microscopy as a bit of a past time and am fascinated by the house dust mite. Please, what is an easy way to secure and prepare to view these minute pests? So far I have been using sellotape but it's a bit ackward to say the least! Thanks, David
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 | | From: | Aaron | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | 21 Dec 2004 00:11:16 -0600 |
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 | David, Have you obtained a decent image of the bugs infesting your home?
Aaron
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:57:28 -0000, "David Sewell" wrote:
>I'm just interested in microscopy as a bit of a past time and am fascinated >by the house dust mite. Please, what is an easy way to secure and prepare >to view these minute pests? >So far I have been using sellotape but it's a bit ackward to say the least! >Thanks, >David > >
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 | | From: | David Sewell | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:14:36 -0000 |
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 | "Aaron" wrote in message news:keffs0pfsq4mgq2n7rsm436iufdn5692ij@4ax.com... > David, Have you obtained a decent image of the bugs infesting your > home? > > Aaron > > On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:57:28 -0000, "David Sewell" > wrote: > > >I'm just interested in microscopy as a bit of a past time and am fascinated > >by the house dust mite. Please, what is an easy way to secure and prepare > >to view these minute pests? > >So far I have been using sellotape but it's a bit ackward to say the least! > >Thanks, > >David > > > > >
Thanks for that pdf link in your earlier post, it's really cool. Why is it everytime one wants info on just about any subject you can guarantee it will have it's roots in the states! No better image than the link I posted earlier. I found the cheapest adaptor for my digital camera to be around £80. I need to make a few financial adjustments to manage that in the short term! "Acarus" looks about the nearest I can compare to so far...
Regards, David
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 | | From: | Gary G | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:03:49 -0800 |
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 | On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:14:36 -0000, "David Sewell" wrote:
> >"Aaron" wrote in message >news:keffs0pfsq4mgq2n7rsm436iufdn5692ij@4ax.com... >> David, Have you obtained a decent image of the bugs infesting your >> home? >> >> Aaron >> >> On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:57:28 -0000, "David Sewell" >> wrote: >> >> >I'm just interested in microscopy as a bit of a past time and am >fascinated >> >by the house dust mite. Please, what is an easy way to secure and >prepare >> >to view these minute pests? >> >So far I have been using sellotape but it's a bit ackward to say the >least! >> >Thanks, >> >David >> > >> > >> > >Thanks for that pdf link in your earlier post, it's really cool. Why is it >everytime one wants info on just about any subject you can guarantee it will >have it's roots in the states! >No better image than the link I posted earlier. I found the cheapest >adaptor for my digital camera to be around £80. I need to make a few >financial adjustments to manage that in the short term! "Acarus" looks >about the nearest I can compare to so far... > >Regards, >David >
As I offered, send me some bugs and I will SEM them for you.
Gary Gaugler, Ph.D. Microtechnics, Inc. Granite Bay, CA 95746 916.791.8191 gary@microtechnics dot com
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 | | From: | David Sewell | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:18:01 -0000 |
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 | "Gary G" wrote in message news:8eehs01am8h5bl8imcego34iquqpeqkhvv@4ax.com... > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:14:36 -0000, "David Sewell" > wrote: > > > > >"Aaron" wrote in message > >news:keffs0pfsq4mgq2n7rsm436iufdn5692ij@4ax.com... > >> David, Have you obtained a decent image of the bugs infesting your > >> home? > >> > >> Aaron > >> > >> On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:57:28 -0000, "David Sewell" > >> wrote: > >> > >> >I'm just interested in microscopy as a bit of a past time and am > >fascinated > >> >by the house dust mite. Please, what is an easy way to secure and > >prepare > >> >to view these minute pests? > >> >So far I have been using sellotape but it's a bit ackward to say the > >least! > >> >Thanks, > >> >David > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >Thanks for that pdf link in your earlier post, it's really cool. Why is it > >everytime one wants info on just about any subject you can guarantee it will > >have it's roots in the states! > >No better image than the link I posted earlier. I found the cheapest > >adaptor for my digital camera to be around £80. I need to make a few > >financial adjustments to manage that in the short term! "Acarus" looks > >about the nearest I can compare to so far... > > > >Regards, > >David > > > > As I offered, send me some bugs and I will SEM them for you. > > > Gary Gaugler, Ph.D. > Microtechnics, Inc. > Granite Bay, CA 95746 > 916.791.8191 > gary@microtechnics dot com
Thanks, wiill do asap David
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 | | From: | Aaron | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | 14 Dec 2004 17:34:45 -0600 |
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 | The marketers of air filters and allergy prevention equipment (plastic bedding covers, synthetic pillows and mattresses etc.) have blown tthis issue out of all proportion. There are all these enlarged photos of mites to scare the prospective buyers. According to the marketing hype 60% or more of the homes have them. I don't know where the statistics originated.
Yes dust mites exist somewhere, but they need high humidity. warmth and very poor laundry practices to thrive. If you live in a house with central heating and air conditioning and you wash and change the sheets and pillow cases regularly you will have a devil of a time finding any. The heating and air conditoning keep the humidity too low. Laundring the bedding and showering regularly keeps things clean.
On the Yahoo microscope group, we had a contest to see who would be the first to find some dust mites and post some images. A group of us living at different places around the globe were unable to find any. I, personally, collected dust samples from all over my house, disected feather pillows, examined used pillow cases and probed my old spring mattress without finding a single mite.
So the fact that you are having trouble finding any is not a surprise.
If they were present, you should be able to detect them a 30X with a stereomicroscope.
Aaron
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:57:28 -0000, "David Sewell" wrote:
>I'm just interested in microscopy as a bit of a past time and am fascinated >by the house dust mite. Please, what is an easy way to secure and prepare >to view these minute pests? >So far I have been using sellotape but it's a bit ackward to say the least! >Thanks, >David > >
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 | | From: | David Sewell | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Wed, 15 Dec 2004 00:35:02 -0000 |
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 | "Aaron" wrote in message news:0pour05drgb7kk9q6jrjvgi0ppbdtpbl9u@4ax.com... > The marketers of air filters and allergy prevention equipment (plastic > bedding covers, synthetic pillows and mattresses etc.) have blown > tthis issue out of all proportion. There are all these enlarged > photos of mites to scare the prospective buyers. According to the > marketing hype 60% or more of the homes have them. I don't know where > the statistics originated. > > Yes dust mites exist somewhere, but they need high humidity. warmth > and very poor laundry practices to thrive. If you live in a house > with central heating and air conditioning and you wash and change the > sheets and pillow cases regularly you will have a devil of a time > finding any. The heating and air conditoning keep the humidity too > low. Laundring the bedding and showering regularly keeps things clean. > > On the Yahoo microscope group, we had a contest to see who would be > the first to find some dust mites and post some images. A group of us > living at different places around the globe were unable to find any. > I, personally, collected dust samples from all over my house, disected > feather pillows, examined used pillow cases and probed my old spring > mattress without finding a single mite. > > So the fact that you are having trouble finding any is not a surprise. > > If they were present, you should be able to detect them a 30X with a > stereomicroscope. > > Aaron > > On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:57:28 -0000, "David Sewell" > wrote: > > >I'm just interested in microscopy as a bit of a past time and am fascinated > >by the house dust mite. Please, what is an easy way to secure and prepare > >to view these minute pests? > >So far I have been using sellotape but it's a bit ackward to say the least! > >Thanks, > >David > > > > >
Aaron you seem to totally misunderstand me. I am totally overwhelmed by house dust mites (here in the UK ). Pick up a phone - crawling alive with them. Pick up a tv remote - swarming alive with them. Look at any surface - swarming alive with them.....I dispute this thing about them needing warmth as I am talking about a situation where temperatures are around 45 farenheit up, but high humidity. In my judgement of the situation they are happier with high humidity in preference to high temperature...perhaps I'm experienceing a new strain - how exciting!!
Still want to know the "proffesional" way of preparing them.
Thanks again, David
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 | | From: | Richard J Kinch | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:22:33 -0600 |
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 | David Sewell writes:
> Aaron you seem to totally misunderstand me. I am totally overwhelmed by > house dust mites (here in the UK ).
Can you post a photo[micrograph]?
There are lots of mites. How do you know they are "dust mites"?
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 | | From: | David Sewell | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:11:27 -0000 |
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 | "Richard J Kinch" wrote in message news:Xns95C03D00DA4Asomeconundrum@216.196.97.131... > David Sewell writes: > > > Aaron you seem to totally misunderstand me. I am totally overwhelmed by > > house dust mites (here in the UK ). > > Can you post a photo[micrograph]? > > There are lots of mites. How do you know they are "dust mites"?
They look like what I have seen on the net, they are where dust is, also I notice they seem to cluster around any greasy finger prints. I do have a digital camera but no device to attach it to my microscope. (Lomo C11 -not C15 as I posted earlier). The best I could do was a snap with an Intel QX3, in the link below:
http://www.hereat.freeserve.co.uk/photo/mite.jpg
Regards, David
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 | | From: | Richard J Kinch | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:20:46 -0600 |
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 | David Sewell writes:
> http://www.hereat.freeserve.co.uk/photo/mite.jpg
Ewwww, ewww, ewwwwww.
Are you sure that's not a louse?
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 | | From: | David Sewell | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:51:19 -0000 |
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 | "Richard J Kinch" wrote in message news:Xns95C09C18D7860someconundrum@216.196.97.131... > David Sewell writes: > > > http://www.hereat.freeserve.co.uk/photo/mite.jpg > > Ewwww, ewww, ewwwwww. > > Are you sure that's not a louse?
With all that body hair? I don't think so. These here are living quite independent lives it seems! They look like some kind of mite. They just seem to fit most neatly into the average internet website criteria for an house dust mite for want of a better identity.
David
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 | | From: | David Sewell | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:59:23 -0000 |
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 | "David Sewell" wrote in message news:cpq809$q2t$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk... > > "Richard J Kinch" wrote in message > news:Xns95C09C18D7860someconundrum@216.196.97.131... > > David Sewell writes: > > > > > http://www.hereat.freeserve.co.uk/photo/mite.jpg > > > > Ewwww, ewww, ewwwwww. > > > > Are you sure that's not a louse? > > With all that body hair? I don't think so. These here are living quite > independent lives it seems! > They look like some kind of mite. They just seem to fit most neatly into > the average internet website criteria for an house dust mite for want of a > better identity. > > David > > Forgot to add ...don't louse have 6 legs, my beasts have 8....
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 | | From: | ouroboros rex | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:35:10 -0600 |
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Definitely an astig. House dust mites belong to the family Pyroglyphididae (including many Dermatophagoides spp.). I don't think that's what this is. This looks more to me like something in the Acaridae -- probably a Tyrophagus; maybe an Acarus. I wouldn't be able to say without microscopic examination.
(good luck translating the above!)
These can be mounted in Hoyers medium after being pickled in 70% ethanol. For permanent slides, the edges of the cover slips should be sealed with Glyptal once they have dried, otherwise they will deteriorate rapidly. Sometimes, bodies of the mites contain crystals of N-containing waste products that do not clear in Hoyers; in this case, mites first need to be processed through lactophenol clearing solution.
"David Sewell" wrote in message news:cpq8fa$rd0$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk... > > "David Sewell" wrote in message > news:cpq809$q2t$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk... >> >> "Richard J Kinch" wrote in message >> news:Xns95C09C18D7860someconundrum@216.196.97.131... >> > David Sewell writes: >> > >> > > http://www.hereat.freeserve.co.uk/photo/mite.jpg >> > >> > Ewwww, ewww, ewwwwww. >> > >> > Are you sure that's not a louse? >> >> With all that body hair? I don't think so. These here are living quite >> independent lives it seems! >> They look like some kind of mite. They just seem to fit most neatly >> into >> the average internet website criteria for an house dust mite for want of >> a >> better identity. >> >> David >> >> > Forgot to add ...don't louse have 6 legs, my beasts have 8.... > >
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 | | From: | David Sewell | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:31:39 -0000 |
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 | "ouroboros rex" wrote in message news:cpsdfu$e6t$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu... > from a friend of a friend - > > Definitely an astig. House dust mites belong to the family Pyroglyphididae > (including many Dermatophagoides spp.). I don't think that's what this > is. This looks more to me like something in the Acaridae -- probably a > Tyrophagus; maybe an Acarus. I wouldn't be able to say without microscopic > examination. > > (good luck translating the above!) > Hey! I searched for Acarus ( food mite) images, and found that they are very similar to what I have here. Mine are about the size of house dust mites (between 0.2mm-0.4mm), found only in the bedrooms during winter monthes, with low temperatures and they cover all surfaces. I'm guessing the only thing they can be feeding on is dust and fibres. I'm curious as to why they are not in the kitchen if they are food mites...all very interesting! Thanks, David
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 | | From: | ouroboros rex | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:40:25 -0600 |
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 | "David Sewell" wrote in message news:cpp9hi$2v4$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk... > > "Richard J Kinch" wrote in message > news:Xns95C03D00DA4Asomeconundrum@216.196.97.131... >> David Sewell writes: >> >> > Aaron you seem to totally misunderstand me. I am totally overwhelmed >> > by >> > house dust mites (here in the UK ). >> >> Can you post a photo[micrograph]? >> >> There are lots of mites. How do you know they are "dust mites"? > > They look like what I have seen on the net, they are where dust is, also I > notice they seem to cluster around any greasy finger prints. I do have a > digital camera but no device to attach it to my microscope. (Lomo C11 -not > C15 as I posted earlier). The best I could do was a snap with an Intel > QX3, > in the link below: > > http://www.hereat.freeserve.co.uk/photo/mite.jpg > > Regards, > David > >
If it was me, I would fix them in alcohol for like an hour, then run them up to 100%alcohol, the xylene, then mount in canada balsam, the way my entomology buddy does. You can fish them out of the alcohol with small tweezers to wash away the dust, etc.
You could rinse them off the cello tape with xylene or alcohol to start, whichever dissolves the cemeny on the tape.
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 | | From: | Gary G | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:04:58 -0800 |
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 | On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:11:27 -0000, "David Sewell" wrote:
> >"Richard J Kinch" wrote in message >news:Xns95C03D00DA4Asomeconundrum@216.196.97.131... >> David Sewell writes: >> >> > Aaron you seem to totally misunderstand me. I am totally overwhelmed by >> > house dust mites (here in the UK ). >> >> Can you post a photo[micrograph]? >> >> There are lots of mites. How do you know they are "dust mites"? > >They look like what I have seen on the net, they are where dust is, also I >notice they seem to cluster around any greasy finger prints. I do have a >digital camera but no device to attach it to my microscope. (Lomo C11 -not >C15 as I posted earlier). The best I could do was a snap with an Intel QX3, >in the link below: > >http://www.hereat.freeserve.co.uk/photo/mite.jpg > >Regards, >David >
That does not look like a dust mite. Check out this pix and compare:
http://www.microtechnics.com/mite1-3bc.jpg
this is indeed a dust mite. It can't be seen with my naked eyes.
Gary Gaugler, Ph.D. Microtechnics, Inc. Granite Bay, CA 95746 916.791.8191 gary@microtechnics dot com
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 | | From: | David Sewell | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:08:57 -0000 |
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 | "Gary G" wrote in message news:1kr0s09sde6o02tag89hgbh9vtciuc75n3@4ax.com... > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:11:27 -0000, "David Sewell" > wrote: > > > > >"Richard J Kinch" wrote in message > >news:Xns95C03D00DA4Asomeconundrum@216.196.97.131... > >> David Sewell writes: > >> > >> > Aaron you seem to totally misunderstand me. I am totally overwhelmed by > >> > house dust mites (here in the UK ). > >> > >> Can you post a photo[micrograph]? > >> > >> There are lots of mites. How do you know they are "dust mites"? > > > >They look like what I have seen on the net, they are where dust is, also I > >notice they seem to cluster around any greasy finger prints. I do have a > >digital camera but no device to attach it to my microscope. (Lomo C11 -not > >C15 as I posted earlier). The best I could do was a snap with an Intel QX3, > >in the link below: > > > >http://www.hereat.freeserve.co.uk/photo/mite.jpg > > > >Regards, > >David > > > > That does not look like a dust mite. Check out this pix and > compare: > > http://www.microtechnics.com/mite1-3bc.jpg > > this is indeed a dust mite. It can't be seen with my naked eyes. > > > Gary Gaugler, Ph.D. > Microtechnics, Inc. > Granite Bay, CA 95746 > 916.791.8191 > gary@microtechnics dot com
Thanks. As that's an electron micrograph I find it difficult to make a comparison. What could be the mites I have here then? The photo link I posted was with the QX3 set to 200x magnification. I read on the net that house dust mites are about 0.4mm. I can see the mites here quite easily without optical aids as they move.
David
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 | | From: | Aaron | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | 15 Dec 2004 16:04:12 -0600 |
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 | I tend to agree with Gary that you may some other infestation.. There are lots of facts that do not fit. Here is a fact sheet and a drawing that may be helpful.
http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2157.html
Dust mites are 0.25-0.30mm. At 200X magnification the mite would more than fill the field of view. Your description of where they are found is also strange. If these are found on phones and TV remotes that is atypical. The typical preferred location would be in your bedding and rugs Most times the only indicators of the dust mite infestation are allergic reactions to the feces. Otherwise dust mites are very stealthy..
There are other mites, spiders and small pests that infest the home. I suggest that you seek professional help with identifucation and control. .
That said, the preparation of slides for examination by microscope is a different but interesting topic. It is very helpful to have a stereomicroscope to assist in the process as you can observe the process, have working space under the lenses and retain a 3-D perspective which aids in controling the tools.
Collecting the critters with cellophane tape is not a bad first step. Are you familiar with the trick of using mineral oil to make the tape transparent. Put some oil on the glsss slide. place the tape sticky side to the glass and last put a thin layer of mineral oil on the top surface of the tape. The tape will become transpatent and you can make oibservations through the tape.
Another quick and easy way to make a temporary mount would be to place a small amount of viscous immersion oil on the end of a disecting needle or a pin stuck into the eraser end of a pencil. Use this probe to pickup one or a few of the insects. Transfer the insects picked up to a glass slide with a drop of immersion oil in the center. Place a cover glass over the specimen being careful to avoid bubbles in the oil. You may need to use bits of cover glass as spacers to elevate the main cover glass. This should enable you to study them for a few hours.
To make a permanent mount requires killing the insects, dehydrating the body and mounting the specimen
Here is a completeand authoritative treatis on the subject
http://www.sel.barc.usda.gov/selhome/collpres/collpres.pdf
Aaron
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:08:57 -0000, "David Sewell" wrote:
> >"Gary G" wrote in message >news:1kr0s09sde6o02tag89hgbh9vtciuc75n3@4ax.com... >> On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:11:27 -0000, "David Sewell" >> wrote: >> >> > >> >"Richard J Kinch" wrote in message >> >news:Xns95C03D00DA4Asomeconundrum@216.196.97.131... >> >> David Sewell writes: >> >> >> >> > Aaron you seem to totally misunderstand me. I am totally overwhelmed >by >> >> > house dust mites (here in the UK ). >> >> >> >> Can you post a photo[micrograph]? >> >> >> >> There are lots of mites. How do you know they are "dust mites"? >> > >> >They look like what I have seen on the net, they are where dust is, also >I >> >notice they seem to cluster around any greasy finger prints. I do have a >> >digital camera but no device to attach it to my microscope. (Lomo >C11 -not >> >C15 as I posted earlier). The best I could do was a snap with an Intel >QX3, >> >in the link below: >> > >> >http://www.hereat.freeserve.co.uk/photo/mite.jpg >> > >> >Regards, >> >David >> > >> >> That does not look like a dust mite. Check out this pix and >> compare: >> >> http://www.microtechnics.com/mite1-3bc.jpg >> >> this is indeed a dust mite. It can't be seen with my naked eyes. >> >> >> Gary Gaugler, Ph.D. >> Microtechnics, Inc. >> Granite Bay, CA 95746 >> 916.791.8191 >> gary@microtechnics dot com > >Thanks. As that's an electron micrograph I find it difficult to make a >comparison. What could be the mites I have here then? The photo link I >posted was with the QX3 set to 200x magnification. I read on the net that >house dust mites are about 0.4mm. I can see the mites here quite easily >without optical aids as they move. > >David >
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 | | From: | David Sewell | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:28:18 -0000 |
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 | "Aaron" wrote in message news:ur81s0tud6agntod9vigmuq2eacdmd9pvb@4ax.com... > I tend to agree with Gary that you may some other infestation.. There > are lots of facts that do not fit. Here is a fact sheet and a drawing > that may be helpful. > > http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2157.html > > Dust mites are 0.25-0.30mm. At 200X magnification the mite would > more than fill the field of view. Your description of where they are > found is also strange. If these are found on phones and TV remotes > that is atypical. The typical preferred location would be in your > bedding and rugs Most times the only indicators of the dust mite > infestation are allergic reactions to the feces. Otherwise dust mites > are very stealthy.. > > There are other mites, spiders and small pests that infest the home. > I suggest that you seek professional help with identifucation and > control. . > > That said, the preparation of slides for examination by microscope is > a different but interesting topic. It is very helpful to have a > stereomicroscope to assist in the process as you can observe the > process, have working space under the lenses and retain a 3-D > perspective which aids in controling the tools. > > Collecting the critters with cellophane tape is not a bad first step. > Are you familiar with the trick of using mineral oil to make the tape > transparent. Put some oil on the glsss slide. place the tape sticky > side to the glass and last put a thin layer of mineral oil on the top > surface of the tape. The tape will become transpatent and you can make > oibservations through the tape. > > Another quick and easy way to make a temporary mount would be to place > a small amount of viscous immersion oil on the end of a disecting > needle or a pin stuck into the eraser end of a pencil. Use this probe > to pickup one or a few of the insects. Transfer the insects picked up > to a glass slide with a drop of immersion oil in the center. Place a > cover glass over the specimen being careful to avoid bubbles in the > oil. You may need to use bits of cover glass as spacers to elevate > the main cover glass. This should enable you to study them for a few > hours. > > To make a permanent mount requires killing the insects, dehydrating > the body and mounting the specimen > > Here is a completeand authoritative treatis on the subject > > http://www.sel.barc.usda.gov/selhome/collpres/collpres.pdf > > Aaron > > > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:08:57 -0000, "David Sewell" > wrote: > Hey, Aaron thanks. Thats the best and most useful reply and what I was basically looking for. But all very interesting. Top marks and thanks.
David
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>> >> On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:08:57 -0000, "David Sewell" >> wrote: >> >Hey, Aaron thanks. Thats the best and most useful reply and what I was >basically looking for. But all very interesting. Top marks and thanks. > >David >
Send me some specimens in methanol or acetone and I can image them using variable pressure SEM.
My SEM pix of the dust mite was done at about 2KX.
Gary Gaugler, Ph.D. Microtechnics, Inc. Granite Bay, CA 95746 916.791.8191 gary@microtechnics dot com
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 | | From: | Aaron | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | 16 Dec 2004 00:10:15 -0600 |
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 | On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:48:58 -0800, Gary G wrote:
>My SEM pix of the dust mite was done at about 2KX. > >Gary Gaugler, Ph.D. >Microtechnics, Inc. >Granite Bay, CA 95746 >916.791.8191 >gary@microtechnics dot com
How big is the mite? Can you estimate the size from your image?
Aaron
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 | | From: | Richard J Kinch | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Thu, 16 Dec 2004 01:47:51 -0600 |
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 | Gary G writes:
> My SEM pix of the dust mite was done at about 2KX.
Specimen was collected where? Prepared for SEM how?
The appendages appear to be withdrawn, not a lifelike pose, am I correct?
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 | | From: | Gary G | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:56:25 -0800 |
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 | On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 01:47:51 -0600, Richard J Kinch wrote:
>Gary G writes: > >> My SEM pix of the dust mite was done at about 2KX. > >Specimen was collected where? Prepared for SEM how? > >The appendages appear to be withdrawn, not a lifelike pose, am I correct?
No idea where the specimen was collected. I bought several hundred in methanol. From the data I got at that time, these mites were first "captured" in circa 1946. They, and 40,000 others, were sitting in methanol since then. I just dumped a few out of the shipping bottle and let them sink into a double sticky carbon tab on a SEM stub.
The reason for appearance of withdrawn is basically implosion due to non-fixation of the specimens and proper CPD before SEM. I still have many more in the original bottle which might be able to be re-hydrated and then properly prepared. Now, I would use VP at low temperature and perhaps be able to avoid fixing and drying.
The legs also pull in just like spiders do when they die. It is easier to pull spider legs apart than those of the mite! Anyway, I never spent any more time on the mites since they were not a popular subject. And the basic specimens were not all that great to begin with. Based on my recollection, these were about 1u across. They were viewed using stereo zoom at about 150X (not real easy to see).
Gary Gaugler, Ph.D. Microtechnics, Inc. Granite Bay, CA 95746 916.791.8191 gary@microtechnics dot com
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 | | From: | Richard J Kinch | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:59:55 -0600 |
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 | Gary G writes:
> Based on my recollection, these were about 1u across.
1u = 1 micrometer?
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 | | From: | Gary G | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:26:21 -0800 |
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 | On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:59:55 -0600, Richard J Kinch wrote:
>Gary G writes: > >> Based on my recollection, these were about 1u across. > >1u = 1 micrometer?
Yes.
Gary Gaugler, Ph.D. Microtechnics, Inc. Granite Bay, CA 95746 916.791.8191 gary@microtechnics dot com
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 | | From: | Richard J Kinch | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:08:02 -0600 |
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 | Gary G writes:
>>> Based on my recollection, these were about 1u across. >> >>1u = 1 micrometer? > > Yes.
Hmmm ... I thought these critters are reputed to be 200 or 300 u, then. And that seems offhand to be roughly a lower limit for something that walks on legs.
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 | | From: | GTO | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Tue, 21 Dec 2004 02:05:37 GMT |
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 | Yes. Neither Demodex folliculorum nor Dermatophagoides farinae are smaller than 0.1 mm (100 um). But their skin fragments have an average size of just 6 to 10 um. Maybe is was a skin fragment (?).
Gregor
"Richard J Kinch" wrote in message news:Xns95C5A41DB9BCAsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131... > Gary G writes: > >>>> Based on my recollection, these were about 1u across. >>> >>>1u = 1 micrometer? >> >> Yes. > > Hmmm ... I thought these critters are reputed to be 200 or 300 u, then. > And that seems offhand to be roughly a lower limit for something that > walks > on legs.
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 | | From: | Gary G | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:10:28 -0800 |
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 | On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:08:02 -0600, Richard J Kinch wrote:
>Gary G writes: > >>>> Based on my recollection, these were about 1u across. >>> >>>1u = 1 micrometer? >> >> Yes. > >Hmmm ... I thought these critters are reputed to be 200 or 300 u, then. >And that seems offhand to be roughly a lower limit for something that walks >on legs.
Perhaps these that I have are not on an Atkins diet.
0.5u - 1u big deal. I truly do not have quantitavid data to support one size or another. But I do know that the critters are very small.
Gary Gaugler, Ph.D. Microtechnics, Inc. Granite Bay, CA 95746 916.791.8191 gary@microtechnics dot com
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 | | From: | Richard J Kinch | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:50:09 -0600 |
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 | Gary G writes:
>>Hmmm ... I thought these critters are reputed to be 200 or 300 u, >>then. And that seems offhand to be roughly a lower limit for >>something that walks on legs.
> 0.5u - 1u big deal. I truly do not have quantitavid data to support > one size or another. But I do know that the critters are very small.
Eh? I can't follow this gibberish.
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 | | From: | Repeating Rifle | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Wed, 15 Dec 2004 06:42:49 GMT |
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 | in article Xns95C03D00DA4Asomeconundrum@216.196.97.131, Richard J Kinch at kinch@truetex.com wrote on 12/14/04 9:22 PM:
> David Sewell writes: > >> Aaron you seem to totally misunderstand me. I am totally overwhelmed by >> house dust mites (here in the UK ). > > Can you post a photo[micrograph]? > > There are lots of mites. How do you know they are "dust mites"?
I have never seen a dust mite as far as I know. But I have seen mites on blackberries. I can barely see them as specs without a lens. With a hand lens, they are quit clear. I never thought of actually looking at them with a compound microscope. I am now eating them with impunity.
How do you go about collecting dust mites so as not too much background material?
Bill
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 | | From: | David Sewell | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:18:56 -0000 |
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 | "Repeating Rifle" wrote in message news:BDE51CF5.2CB26%salmonegg@sbcglobal.net... > > How do you go about collecting dust mites so as not too much background > material? > > Bill >
That's my problem. I've just been picking them up with a piece of sticky tape and viewing them directly under the scope. Very awkward and fiddly, but it's the easiest way I thought of so far...
David
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 | | From: | Richard J Kinch | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Tue, 14 Dec 2004 15:43:03 -0600 |
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 | David Sewell writes:
> I'm just interested in microscopy as a bit of a past time and am > fascinated by the house dust mite. Please, what is an easy way to > secure and prepare to view these minute pests?
Like the formula for rabbit stew, first catch the rabbit.
Do you actually have a specimen? They're not as common as the duct- cleaning swindlers want you to believe.
The scary photos you've seen are electron micrographs. Critters don't look like that in an optical microscope.
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 | | From: | David Sewell | | Subject: | Re: Getting to view a house dust mite? | | Date: | Tue, 14 Dec 2004 21:58:53 -0000 |
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 | "Richard J Kinch" wrote in message news:Xns95BFAA0CB2497someconundrum@216.196.97.131... > David Sewell writes: > > > I'm just interested in microscopy as a bit of a past time and am > > fascinated by the house dust mite. Please, what is an easy way to > > secure and prepare to view these minute pests? > > Like the formula for rabbit stew, first catch the rabbit. > > Do you actually have a specimen? They're not as common as the duct- > cleaning swindlers want you to believe.
Don't I just! They are are everywhere I look. No shortage - just don't know a good way to capture and display them. > > The scary photos you've seen are electron micrographs. Critters don't look > like that in an optical microscope.
Look scary enough to me so far i.e. on sellotape and under a lomo c15.....
Thanks, David
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