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 | | From: | John Turmel | | Subject: | TURMEL: Crown has no factum for Elliot Lake Court | | Date: | 11 Jan 2005 05:05:31 GMT |
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JCT: Okay, so the government couldn't find a Crown Attorney
to sign their name to a Factum that argues that the law is
alive after Krieger! I've got them coming in defenceless!
Aaaaaarrrrrrrggggggggg. I feel so jugular.
We're arguing the law is invalid, repealed, dead. The Crown
oppose our motion by arguing it's again valid, again
unrepealed, again alive. Except, they can't find anyone to
incriminate themselves by signing off on a lie everyone
knows ain't true.
Imagine, again having the government totally defenceless.
What an exhilarating feeling. The die is cast and it's
loaded my way.
What's exciting is that from now on, all these hearings will
be taped by our guerrillas and transcribed for publication
just like all my Turmel hearings were taped and transcribed
for publication in the past. Why me always and not others
always? The Crown never objected before and they're not
going to start objecting now. The demand is officially on
paper with the section authorizing it and they've promised
to bring a tape. Pierre Drouin's went to Elliot Lake for the
show.
As for whether the Manitoba Kid filed his short notice
motion to quash for abuse and contempt, I didn't know what
he was going to do and still don't know what he did. I had
written a couple of posts asking him to charge out of
Manitoba and the kid may have been deterred by a lawyer or
by an offer Marc "The Narc" Emery has been making to finance
a lawyer to do it for him properly, and slowly. Offering him
the money to get a lawyer to torpedo his case is just
another Narc Emery move. I'd almost bet the kid fell for the
bribe and had his case put off while Marc The Narc shops for
a lawyer to properly present the kid's Krieger "S.7 is dead"
case.
He might have charged today. He might not have. I didn't
know so I built up the tension. I still don't know. To me it
was excitement. To the Crown dread. So why not build up
their anxiety over being hit in another province too. I
didn't know it would or wouldn't happen and didn't lie. I
still don't know if the Manitoba Kid went through with it or
was scared or bought off.
Still, when you look back at the battles to get our cases
past the clerks, Pierre in Cochrane, me in the Supreme
Court, it's nice to think that our two most solidly-booked
cases are now coming up back to back this week in optimum
order. In the perfect order too! The Nielsens are booked
solidly on Friday in Ontario Superior Court of Justice and
the Johnsons are booked solidly on Tuesday in Ontario Court
of Justice.
Richard isn't hampered by the Hitzig resurrection of Section
4. They didn't resurrect Section 7 and he's not charged with
Section 4, he's charged with Section 7. The Nielsens are
charged with Section 4 and making the Krieger cultivation
strike-down connection to possession was by implication.
They have to beat the Hitzig-Myrden resurrection of the
Section 4. So it's nice that the first of our two cinched
hearings is the pure Krieger Section 7; the first use of the
Krieger card by a cultivator in Canada. If they try to bring
up Hitzig, Richard just asks what the resurrection of
Section 4 has to do with Section 7 that Krieger struck down!
Har har har har.
So it's not only in other provinces that Hitzig can't help
the Crown. In S.7 cultivation cases too. Har har har. It's
been a long time coming. What's making it move fast is the
contempt aspect. No Crown Attorney wants to put his career
on the line for a lousy lie. Especially with a pot of
corpses at the end of this rainbow.
Anyway, with all the possible lines of attack, I don't think
I've played up the on-time no-escape ones as much as I
should have. Wham tomorrow, Johnsons, a perfect Krieger,
right down to growing it for medical reasons too. Guaranteed
Richard would qualify for an MMAR exemption when his doctors
sings! A perfect Krieger! Wham Friday, Nielsens, using the
Krieger to over-rule Hitzig and make Turmel v. Hitzig at the
Supreme Court of Canada moot. What a one-two combination of
blows. Is it any wonder the Crown have not come up with a
response in either case?
The only problem is that if Marc Emery's going around
offering to buy lawyers for new-found warriors if they'll do
it the proper slow way instead of just rushing in for the
kill with Turmel without proper legal preparation, we may
have to hide their identities from now on.
We'll know soon enough if the Johnsons and Nielsens don't
get to cite the charge of the Manitoba Kid to fight off
Hitzig because of Emery's offer to fund his lawyer.
Imagine, Mr. "I-plead-guilty to a dead law" is now offering
to finance a lawyerly version of a Turmel "Quash the dead
law" motion. But people already busted need not apply, he's
looking for a kamikaze to get newly-busted. It must be a
Public Relations coup.
How sad to think there may not have been a Manitoba charge
because Narc Emery got to interfere. Who wouldn't choose to
take a free lawyer rather than argue it themselves? All it
does is slow everything down and basically take the kid out
of the Turmel play just when we needed him.
Of course, I still got to use the charge of the Manitoba Kid
to bluff them into some extra heart-ache. Hanging over their
heads since it became a possibility. Having to re-expose
Narc Emery to take the kid out of the play. Come on, we
still don't even know what happened but the thing we do know
is that the mere threat had to have caused the Crown a lot
of angst. Har har.
The Manitoba Kid or anyone out of another province would
have really helped our cases and hurt theirs so they must
have been on pins and needles until Narc Emery took the kid
out of the play.
Still, for us, there's' the exquisite expectation with
nothing to lose. We don't know anything for sure but I love
nothing-to-lose shots. Still, it's interesting to consider
how much even the bluff of charge of the Manitoba Kid must
have affected their play.
Look, the Turmel kits can permit thousands of victims to
fight back. Narc Emery funding lawyers will permit only a
few to fight back. Nothing but a do-it-yourself kit can
solve this problem for the masses. Besides, they're running
scared from these Parker and Krieger Aces played by legal
amateurs.
Just like the winner of last year's World Series of Poker,
just a competent amateur on a lucky streak. No matter how
rare the consummate professional, it doesn't mean there
can't be a lot of competent amateurs. And then, sometimes,
the odd competent amateur, bests the best professionals.
John The Engineer has already been credited with proving all
the world's economists wrong about interest fighting
inflation. John The Engineer dug out the truth while the
whole Canadian Bar and Bench were kept duped. Twice.
I'm told the only reason anyone has to denounce people using
Turmel Quash the dead law kits is that I'm not a lawyer. Har
har har har. Compared to the Professor who can discern
fairness with math, the trial and error crowd are a bunch of
Gilligans.
Anyway, it looks like the end of the end of the prohibition
of the Tree of Life may be just in time for The Engineer's
Report on the State of the biosphere to the World Social
Forum Jan 26-31 in Porto Alegre, Brazil.
Winning the decriminalization of the Tree of Life would be a
wonderful prelude to the premier showing of the TURMEL video
by the Csomor Brothers at the World Social Forum, stressing
the Tree of Life; the Water of Life, the Credit Card of
Life.
You can compare Naomi Klein and Avi Lewis's "TAKE" on social
money in Argentina versus the TURMEL take on it. Avi Lewis
is responsible for suppressing the message of LETS on his
MuchMusic "Talk me to your leader" show during my 1993 run
for Prime Minister of Canada. Bet he hid what LETS did for
Argentina too!
Anyway, wouldn't victory over cannabis prohibition be a
wonderful event for my report to the World Social Forum who
are used to mainly hearing about UNILETS from me? Now that
almost every online encyclopedia in the world defines
UNILETS as a UN LETS, getting one set by by the World Social
Forum won't be all that hard for them to grasp.
So a win tomorrow morning knocking down S.7 and S.4 in
Provincial Court and/or winning Friday to knock down S.4,
both knocking down my S.5 charge with them, really could
help me shake up the World Social Forum again this year.
Of course, if they somehow duck these two upcoming hearings,
I'm going to be very upset. I just can't imagine what
they're doing. It always seems to come back to complete
capitulation, which is their optimum strategy. Fighting only
gets them deeper into trouble, takes more people down with
the ring-leaders.
Gee, I can't wait to read the transcript when it reaches the
new exhibit with David Frankel's signature admitting the
government knew the law was dead while they were still
busting Canadians and this judge was probably convicting
them. Richard's going to tell the judge he has reason to be
angry with the Crown too.
As a coach, I'm in a delightful state of anxiety. Here's one
of our team going in for the kill and the opposition haven't
shown to put up a fight! And they're going to tape it and
Suzanne has promised to type it up for medpot-discuss.
Richard's even been prepared for them trying to withdraw the
charges. He'll insist on pushing ahead with his abuse of
process and contempt motion which deal with the process of
the court, not the evidence in issue.
Wouldn't the Crown withdrawing the charges be a pain. Still,
what do they do 3 days later in Brantford with the Nielsen
family?
If they pull giving up again, they know I'll kick into
action in the Supreme Court. The only way they're going to
get the Supremes off the hook is to lose now. Not merely
withdraw the charges. That's not good enough to mooten the
Turmel applications at the top. The only way to get the
reluctant Supremes off the hook is for the Crown to lose
below now.
So what can they do? Stalling can't help. It's all
connected. And it's never going to end. More and more
victims will be found to file the attack forms. Narc Emery
doesn't have enough lawyers to help stall them all. And
there will be those who want to fight because they
understand their new Turmel-engineered armaments which
aren't all that hard to wield. KISS is the elegant
engineering.
Am I missing something here? Can complete capitulation be
just around the corner? Or do they have some kind of plan?
Who's going to sign their name? Who would dare? 4 dead
epileptics a day attached to the signature. Who would dare?
And maybe just in time to help influence the World Social
Forum. Enough speculation. Let's hope we get Sue's report to
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/medpot-discuss so I can
pass it on to the world soon thereafter.
What a case. Go re-read the Johnson Factum-Memorandum.
Perfect Krieger. "On all fours," lawyers like to say.
Completely analogous engineers like to say, even congruent.
Now re-read the government's Factum. Har har har har.
--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics
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| | From: | xxx xxx | | Subject: | Re: TURMEL: Crown has no factum for Elliot Lake Court | | Date: | Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:55:26 -0600 |
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| Mr Turmel.It's the kid from Mb. here.Please check your turmel@ncf.ca acct.
for a message from me.I hope you get it
"John Turmel" wrote in message
news:crvmqr$l5p$1@theodyn.ncf.ca...
>
> JCT: Okay, so the government couldn't find a Crown Attorney
> to sign their name to a Factum that argues that the law is
> alive after Krieger! I've got them coming in defenceless!
> Aaaaaarrrrrrrggggggggg. I feel so jugular.
>
> We're arguing the law is invalid, repealed, dead. The Crown
> oppose our motion by arguing it's again valid, again
> unrepealed, again alive. Except, they can't find anyone to
> incriminate themselves by signing off on a lie everyone
> knows ain't true.
>
> Imagine, again having the government totally defenceless.
> What an exhilarating feeling. The die is cast and it's
> loaded my way.
>
> What's exciting is that from now on, all these hearings will
> be taped by our guerrillas and transcribed for publication
> just like all my Turmel hearings were taped and transcribed
> for publication in the past. Why me always and not others
> always? The Crown never objected before and they're not
> going to start objecting now. The demand is officially on
> paper with the section authorizing it and they've promised
> to bring a tape. Pierre Drouin's went to Elliot Lake for the
> show.
>
> As for whether the Manitoba Kid filed his short notice
> motion to quash for abuse and contempt, I didn't know what
> he was going to do and still don't know what he did. I had
> written a couple of posts asking him to charge out of
> Manitoba and the kid may have been deterred by a lawyer or
> by an offer Marc "The Narc" Emery has been making to finance
> a lawyer to do it for him properly, and slowly. Offering him
> the money to get a lawyer to torpedo his case is just
> another Narc Emery move. I'd almost bet the kid fell for the
> bribe and had his case put off while Marc The Narc shops for
> a lawyer to properly present the kid's Krieger "S.7 is dead"
> case.
>
> He might have charged today. He might not have. I didn't
> know so I built up the tension. I still don't know. To me it
> was excitement. To the Crown dread. So why not build up
> their anxiety over being hit in another province too. I
> didn't know it would or wouldn't happen and didn't lie. I
> still don't know if the Manitoba Kid went through with it or
> was scared or bought off.
>
> Still, when you look back at the battles to get our cases
> past the clerks, Pierre in Cochrane, me in the Supreme
> Court, it's nice to think that our two most solidly-booked
> cases are now coming up back to back this week in optimum
> order. In the perfect order too! The Nielsens are booked
> solidly on Friday in Ontario Superior Court of Justice and
> the Johnsons are booked solidly on Tuesday in Ontario Court
> of Justice.
>
> Richard isn't hampered by the Hitzig resurrection of Section
> 4. They didn't resurrect Section 7 and he's not charged with
> Section 4, he's charged with Section 7. The Nielsens are
> charged with Section 4 and making the Krieger cultivation
> strike-down connection to possession was by implication.
> They have to beat the Hitzig-Myrden resurrection of the
> Section 4. So it's nice that the first of our two cinched
> hearings is the pure Krieger Section 7; the first use of the
> Krieger card by a cultivator in Canada. If they try to bring
> up Hitzig, Richard just asks what the resurrection of
> Section 4 has to do with Section 7 that Krieger struck down!
> Har har har har.
>
> So it's not only in other provinces that Hitzig can't help
> the Crown. In S.7 cultivation cases too. Har har har. It's
> been a long time coming. What's making it move fast is the
> contempt aspect. No Crown Attorney wants to put his career
> on the line for a lousy lie. Especially with a pot of
> corpses at the end of this rainbow.
>
> Anyway, with all the possible lines of attack, I don't think
> I've played up the on-time no-escape ones as much as I
> should have. Wham tomorrow, Johnsons, a perfect Krieger,
> right down to growing it for medical reasons too. Guaranteed
> Richard would qualify for an MMAR exemption when his doctors
> sings! A perfect Krieger! Wham Friday, Nielsens, using the
> Krieger to over-rule Hitzig and make Turmel v. Hitzig at the
> Supreme Court of Canada moot. What a one-two combination of
> blows. Is it any wonder the Crown have not come up with a
> response in either case?
>
> The only problem is that if Marc Emery's going around
> offering to buy lawyers for new-found warriors if they'll do
> it the proper slow way instead of just rushing in for the
> kill with Turmel without proper legal preparation, we may
> have to hide their identities from now on.
>
> We'll know soon enough if the Johnsons and Nielsens don't
> get to cite the charge of the Manitoba Kid to fight off
> Hitzig because of Emery's offer to fund his lawyer.
>
> Imagine, Mr. "I-plead-guilty to a dead law" is now offering
> to finance a lawyerly version of a Turmel "Quash the dead
> law" motion. But people already busted need not apply, he's
> looking for a kamikaze to get newly-busted. It must be a
> Public Relations coup.
>
> How sad to think there may not have been a Manitoba charge
> because Narc Emery got to interfere. Who wouldn't choose to
> take a free lawyer rather than argue it themselves? All it
> does is slow everything down and basically take the kid out
> of the Turmel play just when we needed him.
>
> Of course, I still got to use the charge of the Manitoba Kid
> to bluff them into some extra heart-ache. Hanging over their
> heads since it became a possibility. Having to re-expose
> Narc Emery to take the kid out of the play. Come on, we
> still don't even know what happened but the thing we do know
> is that the mere threat had to have caused the Crown a lot
> of angst. Har har.
>
> The Manitoba Kid or anyone out of another province would
> have really helped our cases and hurt theirs so they must
> have been on pins and needles until Narc Emery took the kid
> out of the play.
>
> Still, for us, there's' the exquisite expectation with
> nothing to lose. We don't know anything for sure but I love
> nothing-to-lose shots. Still, it's interesting to consider
> how much even the bluff of charge of the Manitoba Kid must
> have affected their play.
>
> Look, the Turmel kits can permit thousands of victims to
> fight back. Narc Emery funding lawyers will permit only a
> few to fight back. Nothing but a do-it-yourself kit can
> solve this problem for the masses. Besides, they're running
> scared from these Parker and Krieger Aces played by legal
> amateurs.
>
> Just like the winner of last year's World Series of Poker,
> just a competent amateur on a lucky streak. No matter how
> rare the consummate professional, it doesn't mean there
> can't be a lot of competent amateurs. And then, sometimes,
> the odd competent amateur, bests the best professionals.
> John The Engineer has already been credited with proving all
> the world's economists wrong about interest fighting
> inflation. John The Engineer dug out the truth while the
> whole Canadian Bar and Bench were kept duped. Twice.
>
> I'm told the only reason anyone has to denounce people using
> Turmel Quash the dead law kits is that I'm not a lawyer. Har
> har har har. Compared to the Professor who can discern
> fairness with math, the trial and error crowd are a bunch of
> Gilligans.
>
> Anyway, it looks like the end of the end of the prohibition
> of the Tree of Life may be just in time for The Engineer's
> Report on the State of the biosphere to the World Social
> Forum Jan 26-31 in Porto Alegre, Brazil.
>
> Winning the decriminalization of the Tree of Life would be a
> wonderful prelude to the premier showing of the TURMEL video
> by the Csomor Brothers at the World Social Forum, stressing
> the Tree of Life; the Water of Life, the Credit Card of
> Life.
>
> You can compare Naomi Klein and Avi Lewis's "TAKE" on social
> money in Argentina versus the TURMEL take on it. Avi Lewis
> is responsible for suppressing the message of LETS on his
> MuchMusic "Talk me to your leader" show during my 1993 run
> for Prime Minister of Canada. Bet he hid what LETS did for
> Argentina too!
>
> Anyway, wouldn't victory over cannabis prohibition be a
> wonderful event for my report to the World Social Forum who
> are used to mainly hearing about UNILETS from me? Now that
> almost every online encyclopedia in the world defines
> UNILETS as a UN LETS, getting one set by by the World Social
> Forum won't be all that hard for them to grasp.
>
> So a win tomorrow morning knocking down S.7 and S.4 in
> Provincial Court and/or winning Friday to knock down S.4,
> both knocking down my S.5 charge with them, really could
> help me shake up the World Social Forum again this year.
>
> Of course, if they somehow duck these two upcoming hearings,
> I'm going to be very upset. I just can't imagine what
> they're doing. It always seems to come back to complete
> capitulation, which is their optimum strategy. Fighting only
> gets them deeper into trouble, takes more people down with
> the ring-leaders.
>
> Gee, I can't wait to read the transcript when it reaches the
> new exhibit with David Frankel's signature admitting the
> government knew the law was dead while they were still
> busting Canadians and this judge was probably convicting
> them. Richard's going to tell the judge he has reason to be
> angry with the Crown too.
>
> As a coach, I'm in a delightful state of anxiety. Here's one
> of our team going in for the kill and the opposition haven't
> shown to put up a fight! And they're going to tape it and
> Suzanne has promised to type it up for medpot-discuss.
>
> Richard's even been prepared for them trying to withdraw the
> charges. He'll insist on pushing ahead with his abuse of
> process and contempt motion which deal with the process of
> the court, not the evidence in issue.
>
> Wouldn't the Crown withdrawing the charges be a pain. Still,
> what do they do 3 days later in Brantford with the Nielsen
> family?
>
> If they pull giving up again, they know I'll kick into
> action in the Supreme Court. The only way they're going to
> get the Supremes off the hook is to lose now. Not merely
> withdraw the charges. That's not good enough to mooten the
> Turmel applications at the top. The only way to get the
> reluctant Supremes off the hook is for the Crown to lose
> below now.
>
> So what can they do? Stalling can't help. It's all
> connected. And it's never going to end. More and more
> victims will be found to file the attack forms. Narc Emery
> doesn't have enough lawyers to help stall them all. And
> there will be those who want to fight because they
> understand their new Turmel-engineered armaments which
> aren't all that hard to wield. KISS is the elegant
> engineering.
>
> Am I missing something here? Can complete capitulation be
> just around the corner? Or do they have some kind of plan?
> Who's going to sign their name? Who would dare? 4 dead
> epileptics a day attached to the signature. Who would dare?
>
> And maybe just in time to help influence the World Social
> Forum. Enough speculation. Let's hope we get Sue's report to
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/medpot-discuss so I can
> pass it on to the world soon thereafter.
>
> What a case. Go re-read the Johnson Factum-Memorandum.
> Perfect Krieger. "On all fours," lawyers like to say.
> Completely analogous engineers like to say, even congruent.
> Now re-read the government's Factum. Har har har har.
>
> --
> Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
> for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
> to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
> http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics
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| | From: | Tom Miller | | Subject: | Re: TURMEL: Crown has no factum for Elliot Lake Court | | Date: | Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:31:51 +1100 |
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| What is this nut case rattling on about, and what does it have to do with
engineering,
"xxx xxx" wrote in message
news:Ak0Fd.11484$Ka6.77759@news1.mts.net...
> Mr Turmel.It's the kid from Mb. here.Please check your turmel@ncf.ca acct.
> for a message from me.I hope you get it
>
> "John Turmel" wrote in message
> news:crvmqr$l5p$1@theodyn.ncf.ca...
> >
> > JCT: Okay, so the government couldn't find a Crown Attorney
> > to sign their name to a Factum that argues that the law is
> > alive after Krieger! I've got them coming in defenceless!
> > Aaaaaarrrrrrrggggggggg. I feel so jugular.
> >
> > We're arguing the law is invalid, repealed, dead. The Crown
> > oppose our motion by arguing it's again valid, again
> > unrepealed, again alive. Except, they can't find anyone to
> > incriminate themselves by signing off on a lie everyone
> > knows ain't true.
> >
> > Imagine, again having the government totally defenceless.
> > What an exhilarating feeling. The die is cast and it's
> > loaded my way.
> >
> > What's exciting is that from now on, all these hearings will
> > be taped by our guerrillas and transcribed for publication
> > just like all my Turmel hearings were taped and transcribed
> > for publication in the past. Why me always and not others
> > always? The Crown never objected before and they're not
> > going to start objecting now. The demand is officially on
> > paper with the section authorizing it and they've promised
> > to bring a tape. Pierre Drouin's went to Elliot Lake for the
> > show.
> >
> > As for whether the Manitoba Kid filed his short notice
> > motion to quash for abuse and contempt, I didn't know what
> > he was going to do and still don't know what he did. I had
> > written a couple of posts asking him to charge out of
> > Manitoba and the kid may have been deterred by a lawyer or
> > by an offer Marc "The Narc" Emery has been making to finance
> > a lawyer to do it for him properly, and slowly. Offering him
> > the money to get a lawyer to torpedo his case is just
> > another Narc Emery move. I'd almost bet the kid fell for the
> > bribe and had his case put off while Marc The Narc shops for
> > a lawyer to properly present the kid's Krieger "S.7 is dead"
> > case.
> >
> > He might have charged today. He might not have. I didn't
> > know so I built up the tension. I still don't know. To me it
> > was excitement. To the Crown dread. So why not build up
> > their anxiety over being hit in another province too. I
> > didn't know it would or wouldn't happen and didn't lie. I
> > still don't know if the Manitoba Kid went through with it or
> > was scared or bought off.
> >
> > Still, when you look back at the battles to get our cases
> > past the clerks, Pierre in Cochrane, me in the Supreme
> > Court, it's nice to think that our two most solidly-booked
> > cases are now coming up back to back this week in optimum
> > order. In the perfect order too! The Nielsens are booked
> > solidly on Friday in Ontario Superior Court of Justice and
> > the Johnsons are booked solidly on Tuesday in Ontario Court
> > of Justice.
> >
> > Richard isn't hampered by the Hitzig resurrection of Section
> > 4. They didn't resurrect Section 7 and he's not charged with
> > Section 4, he's charged with Section 7. The Nielsens are
> > charged with Section 4 and making the Krieger cultivation
> > strike-down connection to possession was by implication.
> > They have to beat the Hitzig-Myrden resurrection of the
> > Section 4. So it's nice that the first of our two cinched
> > hearings is the pure Krieger Section 7; the first use of the
> > Krieger card by a cultivator in Canada. If they try to bring
> > up Hitzig, Richard just asks what the resurrection of
> > Section 4 has to do with Section 7 that Krieger struck down!
> > Har har har har.
> >
> > So it's not only in other provinces that Hitzig can't help
> > the Crown. In S.7 cultivation cases too. Har har har. It's
> > been a long time coming. What's making it move fast is the
> > contempt aspect. No Crown Attorney wants to put his career
> > on the line for a lousy lie. Especially with a pot of
> > corpses at the end of this rainbow.
> >
> > Anyway, with all the possible lines of attack, I don't think
> > I've played up the on-time no-escape ones as much as I
> > should have. Wham tomorrow, Johnsons, a perfect Krieger,
> > right down to growing it for medical reasons too. Guaranteed
> > Richard would qualify for an MMAR exemption when his doctors
> > sings! A perfect Krieger! Wham Friday, Nielsens, using the
> > Krieger to over-rule Hitzig and make Turmel v. Hitzig at the
> > Supreme Court of Canada moot. What a one-two combination of
> > blows. Is it any wonder the Crown have not come up with a
> > response in either case?
> >
> > The only problem is that if Marc Emery's going around
> > offering to buy lawyers for new-found warriors if they'll do
> > it the proper slow way instead of just rushing in for the
> > kill with Turmel without proper legal preparation, we may
> > have to hide their identities from now on.
> >
> > We'll know soon enough if the Johnsons and Nielsens don't
> > get to cite the charge of the Manitoba Kid to fight off
> > Hitzig because of Emery's offer to fund his lawyer.
> >
> > Imagine, Mr. "I-plead-guilty to a dead law" is now offering
> > to finance a lawyerly version of a Turmel "Quash the dead
> > law" motion. But people already busted need not apply, he's
> > looking for a kamikaze to get newly-busted. It must be a
> > Public Relations coup.
> >
> > How sad to think there may not have been a Manitoba charge
> > because Narc Emery got to interfere. Who wouldn't choose to
> > take a free lawyer rather than argue it themselves? All it
> > does is slow everything down and basically take the kid out
> > of the Turmel play just when we needed him.
> >
> > Of course, I still got to use the charge of the Manitoba Kid
> > to bluff them into some extra heart-ache. Hanging over their
> > heads since it became a possibility. Having to re-expose
> > Narc Emery to take the kid out of the play. Come on, we
> > still don't even know what happened but the thing we do know
> > is that the mere threat had to have caused the Crown a lot
> > of angst. Har har.
> >
> > The Manitoba Kid or anyone out of another province would
> > have really helped our cases and hurt theirs so they must
> > have been on pins and needles until Narc Emery took the kid
> > out of the play.
> >
> > Still, for us, there's' the exquisite expectation with
> > nothing to lose. We don't know anything for sure but I love
> > nothing-to-lose shots. Still, it's interesting to consider
> > how much even the bluff of charge of the Manitoba Kid must
> > have affected their play.
> >
> > Look, the Turmel kits can permit thousands of victims to
> > fight back. Narc Emery funding lawyers will permit only a
> > few to fight back. Nothing but a do-it-yourself kit can
> > solve this problem for the masses. Besides, they're running
> > scared from these Parker and Krieger Aces played by legal
> > amateurs.
> >
> > Just like the winner of last year's World Series of Poker,
> > just a competent amateur on a lucky streak. No matter how
> > rare the consummate professional, it doesn't mean there
> > can't be a lot of competent amateurs. And then, sometimes,
> > the odd competent amateur, bests the best professionals.
> > John The Engineer has already been credited with proving all
> > the world's economists wrong about interest fighting
> > inflation. John The Engineer dug out the truth while the
> > whole Canadian Bar and Bench were kept duped. Twice.
> >
> > I'm told the only reason anyone has to denounce people using
> > Turmel Quash the dead law kits is that I'm not a lawyer. Har
> > har har har. Compared to the Professor who can discern
> > fairness with math, the trial and error crowd are a bunch of
> > Gilligans.
> >
> > Anyway, it looks like the end of the end of the prohibition
> > of the Tree of Life may be just in time for The Engineer's
> > Report on the State of the biosphere to the World Social
> > Forum Jan 26-31 in Porto Alegre, Brazil.
> >
> > Winning the decriminalization of the Tree of Life would be a
> > wonderful prelude to the premier showing of the TURMEL video
> > by the Csomor Brothers at the World Social Forum, stressing
> > the Tree of Life; the Water of Life, the Credit Card of
> > Life.
> >
> > You can compare Naomi Klein and Avi Lewis's "TAKE" on social
> > money in Argentina versus the TURMEL take on it. Avi Lewis
> > is responsible for suppressing the message of LETS on his
> > MuchMusic "Talk me to your leader" show during my 1993 run
> > for Prime Minister of Canada. Bet he hid what LETS did for
> > Argentina too!
> >
> > Anyway, wouldn't victory over cannabis prohibition be a
> > wonderful event for my report to the World Social Forum who
> > are used to mainly hearing about UNILETS from me? Now that
> > almost every online encyclopedia in the world defines
> > UNILETS as a UN LETS, getting one set by by the World Social
> > Forum won't be all that hard for them to grasp.
> >
> > So a win tomorrow morning knocking down S.7 and S.4 in
> > Provincial Court and/or winning Friday to knock down S.4,
> > both knocking down my S.5 charge with them, really could
> > help me shake up the World Social Forum again this year.
> >
> > Of course, if they somehow duck these two upcoming hearings,
> > I'm going to be very upset. I just can't imagine what
> > they're doing. It always seems to come back to complete
> > capitulation, which is their optimum strategy. Fighting only
> > gets them deeper into trouble, takes more people down with
> > the ring-leaders.
> >
> > Gee, I can't wait to read the transcript when it reaches the
> > new exhibit with David Frankel's signature admitting the
> > government knew the law was dead while they were still
> > busting Canadians and this judge was probably convicting
> > them. Richard's going to tell the judge he has reason to be
> > angry with the Crown too.
> >
> > As a coach, I'm in a delightful state of anxiety. Here's one
> > of our team going in for the kill and the opposition haven't
> > shown to put up a fight! And they're going to tape it and
> > Suzanne has promised to type it up for medpot-discuss.
> >
> > Richard's even been prepared for them trying to withdraw the
> > charges. He'll insist on pushing ahead with his abuse of
> > process and contempt motion which deal with the process of
> > the court, not the evidence in issue.
> >
> > Wouldn't the Crown withdrawing the charges be a pain. Still,
> > what do they do 3 days later in Brantford with the Nielsen
> > family?
> >
> > If they pull giving up again, they know I'll kick into
> > action in the Supreme Court. The only way they're going to
> > get the Supremes off the hook is to lose now. Not merely
> > withdraw the charges. That's not good enough to mooten the
> > Turmel applications at the top. The only way to get the
> > reluctant Supremes off the hook is for the Crown to lose
> > below now.
> >
> > So what can they do? Stalling can't help. It's all
> > connected. And it's never going to end. More and more
> > victims will be found to file the attack forms. Narc Emery
> > doesn't have enough lawyers to help stall them all. And
> > there will be those who want to fight because they
> > understand their new Turmel-engineered armaments which
> > aren't all that hard to wield. KISS is the elegant
> > engineering.
> >
> > Am I missing something here? Can complete capitulation be
> > just around the corner? Or do they have some kind of plan?
> > Who's going to sign their name? Who would dare? 4 dead
> > epileptics a day attached to the signature. Who would dare?
> >
> > And maybe just in time to help influence the World Social
> > Forum. Enough speculation. Let's hope we get Sue's report to
> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/medpot-discuss so I can
> > pass it on to the world soon thereafter.
> >
> > What a case. Go re-read the Johnson Factum-Memorandum.
> > Perfect Krieger. "On all fours," lawyers like to say.
> > Completely analogous engineers like to say, even congruent.
> > Now re-read the government's Factum. Har har har har.
> >
> > --
> > Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
> > for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
> > to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
> > http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics
>
>
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| | From: | Terry Spragg | | Subject: | Re: TURMEL: Crown has no factum for Elliot Lake Court | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:40:07 -0400 |
|
|
| Tom Miller wrote:
> What is this nut case rattling on about, and what does it have to do with
> engineering,
> snip
>
"John Turmel" wrote in message
>>news:crvmqr$l5p$1@theodyn.ncf.ca...
>>
>>>JCT: Okay, so the government couldn't find a Crown Attorney
>>>to sign their name to a Factum that argues that the law is
>>>alive after Krieger! I've got them coming in defenceless!
>>>Aaaaaarrrrrrrggggggggg. I feel so jugular.
>>>
>>>We're arguing the law is invalid, repealed, dead. The Crown
>>>oppose our motion by arguing it's again valid, again
>>>unrepealed, again alive. Except, they can't find anyone to
>>>incriminate themselves by signing off on a lie everyone
>>>knows ain't true.
>>>
You may choose to visit his home page and start reading, it's
faaascinating!
John has "engineered" a banking system, the first so properly
designed IHMO, a new form of currency, a lifeboat for destitute
regions called Local Employment Trading System (LETS) It is intended
to augment or hopefully unseat the world dominant oppressive Usury
system of interest based credit, referenced in mathematics encoded
in the parables of Christ, a very smart man who hated usury, even
though as a wealthy illegitimate noble man of his time, he had
inherited a benefit from it, which he gave up along with his life,
for the benefit of the poor and the rich.
The parables are encoded mathematically to avoid cencorship by those
who control our corrupted scriptures. There are many biblical
references explained there, even the seals of revelation?
None are so blind as will not see.
You gotta get aboard this!
He also fights against censorship of the UN World Youth Millenium
Statement, from which has been excised illegitimately the suggestion
on their part that the UN adopt an international systen called
UNILETS, which would augment the world's financial management power,
to the benefit of the destitute, and at no cost, also called Green
World dollars, in some parts. It is suspected that corruption in
the administration of the UN is responsible for further forging a
statement therin alluded to the world student council that the UN
should instead control the IMF and other world banking powers.
This thread is concerned with a legal battle in several courts
including the supreme court, where John argues that illegal actions
by crown prosecutors have resulted in ~4000 illegal charges laid
against medical marijhuana users, among others, under laws which
have been declared illegal and struck down by the same supreme
court, and illegally ressurected by crown prosecutors. It appears
that lawyers are ducking like whack-a-moles in stereo, with the
doors to the courts their only shelter. It is hoped heads will roll
in justice, deservedly so, at least as far as I have been convinced
since my original exposure to this man's activities and this thread
while browsing late last night. He claims only to be "an engineer"
and student of the law. Not a lawyer, he argues regularily before
the supreme court, with great respect garnered to him, surely one of
the few who represent themselves who do not have fools for clients.
He also has taught the mathematics of gaming at Carleton University,
in Ottawa, Canada.
Before you object, I urge you to find out what this is all about:
justice in the world, with a leadership role for Canada a possibility.
Thus, the cross postings.
Kudos and B.Z., John. Keep on kicking butt.
MHO
Terry K, -SofDevCo, brains for rent-
> >
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer"
Turmel for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N.
resolution C6 to Governments in the
http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics
> >
|
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| | From: | Tom Miller | | Subject: | Re: TURMEL: Crown has no factum for Elliot Lake Court | | Date: | Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:35:52 +1100 |
|
|
| I still don't see that it has anything to do with engineering.
Let him post his crackpot ideas somewhere else
Tom
"Terry Spragg" wrote in message
news:s7CdnWPs-4CvOnjcRVn-rg@rogers.com...
> Tom Miller wrote:
>
> > What is this nut case rattling on about, and what does it have to do
with
> > engineering,
> > snip
> >
> "John Turmel" wrote in message
> >>news:crvmqr$l5p$1@theodyn.ncf.ca...
> >>
> >>>JCT: Okay, so the government couldn't find a Crown Attorney
> >>>to sign their name to a Factum that argues that the law is
> >>>alive after Krieger! I've got them coming in defenceless!
> >>>Aaaaaarrrrrrrggggggggg. I feel so jugular.
> >>>
> >>>We're arguing the law is invalid, repealed, dead. The Crown
> >>>oppose our motion by arguing it's again valid, again
> >>>unrepealed, again alive. Except, they can't find anyone to
> >>>incriminate themselves by signing off on a lie everyone
> >>>knows ain't true.
> >>>
>
> You may choose to visit his home page and start reading, it's
> faaascinating!
>
> John has "engineered" a banking system, the first so properly
> designed IHMO, a new form of currency, a lifeboat for destitute
> regions called Local Employment Trading System (LETS) It is intended
> to augment or hopefully unseat the world dominant oppressive Usury
> system of interest based credit, referenced in mathematics encoded
> in the parables of Christ, a very smart man who hated usury, even
> though as a wealthy illegitimate noble man of his time, he had
> inherited a benefit from it, which he gave up along with his life,
> for the benefit of the poor and the rich.
>
> The parables are encoded mathematically to avoid cencorship by those
> who control our corrupted scriptures. There are many biblical
> references explained there, even the seals of revelation?
>
> None are so blind as will not see.
>
> You gotta get aboard this!
>
> He also fights against censorship of the UN World Youth Millenium
> Statement, from which has been excised illegitimately the suggestion
> on their part that the UN adopt an international systen called
> UNILETS, which would augment the world's financial management power,
> to the benefit of the destitute, and at no cost, also called Green
> World dollars, in some parts. It is suspected that corruption in
> the administration of the UN is responsible for further forging a
> statement therin alluded to the world student council that the UN
> should instead control the IMF and other world banking powers.
>
>
> This thread is concerned with a legal battle in several courts
> including the supreme court, where John argues that illegal actions
> by crown prosecutors have resulted in ~4000 illegal charges laid
> against medical marijhuana users, among others, under laws which
> have been declared illegal and struck down by the same supreme
> court, and illegally ressurected by crown prosecutors. It appears
> that lawyers are ducking like whack-a-moles in stereo, with the
> doors to the courts their only shelter. It is hoped heads will roll
> in justice, deservedly so, at least as far as I have been convinced
> since my original exposure to this man's activities and this thread
> while browsing late last night. He claims only to be "an engineer"
> and student of the law. Not a lawyer, he argues regularily before
> the supreme court, with great respect garnered to him, surely one of
> the few who represent themselves who do not have fools for clients.
>
> He also has taught the mathematics of gaming at Carleton University,
> in Ottawa, Canada.
>
> Before you object, I urge you to find out what this is all about:
> justice in the world, with a leadership role for Canada a possibility.
>
> Thus, the cross postings.
>
> Kudos and B.Z., John. Keep on kicking butt.
>
> MHO
>
> Terry K, -SofDevCo, brains for rent-
>
> > >
> Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer"
> Turmel for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N.
> resolution C6 to Governments in the
> http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
> http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics
> > >
>
|
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| | From: | xxx xxx | | Subject: | Re: TURMEL: Crown has no factum for Elliot Lake Court | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:45:04 -0600 |
|
|
| Did you get my email Mr.Turmel?
"xxx xxx" wrote in message
news:Ak0Fd.11484$Ka6.77759@news1.mts.net...
> Mr Turmel.It's the kid from Mb. here.Please check your turmel@ncf.ca acct.
> for a message from me.I hope you get it
>
> "John Turmel" wrote in message
> news:crvmqr$l5p$1@theodyn.ncf.ca...
>>
>> JCT: Okay, so the government couldn't find a Crown Attorney
>> to sign their name to a Factum that argues that the law is
>> alive after Krieger! I've got them coming in defenceless!
>> Aaaaaarrrrrrrggggggggg. I feel so jugular.
>>
>> We're arguing the law is invalid, repealed, dead. The Crown
>> oppose our motion by arguing it's again valid, again
>> unrepealed, again alive. Except, they can't find anyone to
>> incriminate themselves by signing off on a lie everyone
>> knows ain't true.
>>
>> Imagine, again having the government totally defenceless.
>> What an exhilarating feeling. The die is cast and it's
>> loaded my way.
>>
>> What's exciting is that from now on, all these hearings will
>> be taped by our guerrillas and transcribed for publication
>> just like all my Turmel hearings were taped and transcribed
>> for publication in the past. Why me always and not others
>> always? The Crown never objected before and they're not
>> going to start objecting now. The demand is officially on
>> paper with the section authorizing it and they've promised
>> to bring a tape. Pierre Drouin's went to Elliot Lake for the
>> show.
>>
>> As for whether the Manitoba Kid filed his short notice
>> motion to quash for abuse and contempt, I didn't know what
>> he was going to do and still don't know what he did. I had
>> written a couple of posts asking him to charge out of
>> Manitoba and the kid may have been deterred by a lawyer or
>> by an offer Marc "The Narc" Emery has been making to finance
>> a lawyer to do it for him properly, and slowly. Offering him
>> the money to get a lawyer to torpedo his case is just
>> another Narc Emery move. I'd almost bet the kid fell for the
>> bribe and had his case put off while Marc The Narc shops for
>> a lawyer to properly present the kid's Krieger "S.7 is dead"
>> case.
>>
>> He might have charged today. He might not have. I didn't
>> know so I built up the tension. I still don't know. To me it
>> was excitement. To the Crown dread. So why not build up
>> their anxiety over being hit in another province too. I
>> didn't know it would or wouldn't happen and didn't lie. I
>> still don't know if the Manitoba Kid went through with it or
>> was scared or bought off.
>>
>> Still, when you look back at the battles to get our cases
>> past the clerks, Pierre in Cochrane, me in the Supreme
>> Court, it's nice to think that our two most solidly-booked
>> cases are now coming up back to back this week in optimum
>> order. In the perfect order too! The Nielsens are booked
>> solidly on Friday in Ontario Superior Court of Justice and
>> the Johnsons are booked solidly on Tuesday in Ontario Court
>> of Justice.
>>
>> Richard isn't hampered by the Hitzig resurrection of Section
>> 4. They didn't resurrect Section 7 and he's not charged with
>> Section 4, he's charged with Section 7. The Nielsens are
>> charged with Section 4 and making the Krieger cultivation
>> strike-down connection to possession was by implication.
>> They have to beat the Hitzig-Myrden resurrection of the
>> Section 4. So it's nice that the first of our two cinched
>> hearings is the pure Krieger Section 7; the first use of the
>> Krieger card by a cultivator in Canada. If they try to bring
>> up Hitzig, Richard just asks what the resurrection of
>> Section 4 has to do with Section 7 that Krieger struck down!
>> Har har har har.
>>
>> So it's not only in other provinces that Hitzig can't help
>> the Crown. In S.7 cultivation cases too. Har har har. It's
>> been a long time coming. What's making it move fast is the
>> contempt aspect. No Crown Attorney wants to put his career
>> on the line for a lousy lie. Especially with a pot of
>> corpses at the end of this rainbow.
>>
>> Anyway, with all the possible lines of attack, I don't think
>> I've played up the on-time no-escape ones as much as I
>> should have. Wham tomorrow, Johnsons, a perfect Krieger,
>> right down to growing it for medical reasons too. Guaranteed
>> Richard would qualify for an MMAR exemption when his doctors
>> sings! A perfect Krieger! Wham Friday, Nielsens, using the
>> Krieger to over-rule Hitzig and make Turmel v. Hitzig at the
>> Supreme Court of Canada moot. What a one-two combination of
>> blows. Is it any wonder the Crown have not come up with a
>> response in either case?
>>
>> The only problem is that if Marc Emery's going around
>> offering to buy lawyers for new-found warriors if they'll do
>> it the proper slow way instead of just rushing in for the
>> kill with Turmel without proper legal preparation, we may
>> have to hide their identities from now on.
>>
>> We'll know soon enough if the Johnsons and Nielsens don't
>> get to cite the charge of the Manitoba Kid to fight off
>> Hitzig because of Emery's offer to fund his lawyer.
>>
>> Imagine, Mr. "I-plead-guilty to a dead law" is now offering
>> to finance a lawyerly version of a Turmel "Quash the dead
>> law" motion. But people already busted need not apply, he's
>> looking for a kamikaze to get newly-busted. It must be a
>> Public Relations coup.
>>
>> How sad to think there may not have been a Manitoba charge
>> because Narc Emery got to interfere. Who wouldn't choose to
>> take a free lawyer rather than argue it themselves? All it
>> does is slow everything down and basically take the kid out
>> of the Turmel play just when we needed him.
>>
>> Of course, I still got to use the charge of the Manitoba Kid
>> to bluff them into some extra heart-ache. Hanging over their
>> heads since it became a possibility. Having to re-expose
>> Narc Emery to take the kid out of the play. Come on, we
>> still don't even know what happened but the thing we do know
>> is that the mere threat had to have caused the Crown a lot
>> of angst. Har har.
>>
>> The Manitoba Kid or anyone out of another province would
>> have really helped our cases and hurt theirs so they must
>> have been on pins and needles until Narc Emery took the kid
>> out of the play.
>>
>> Still, for us, there's' the exquisite expectation with
>> nothing to lose. We don't know anything for sure but I love
>> nothing-to-lose shots. Still, it's interesting to consider
>> how much even the bluff of charge of the Manitoba Kid must
>> have affected their play.
>>
>> Look, the Turmel kits can permit thousands of victims to
>> fight back. Narc Emery funding lawyers will permit only a
>> few to fight back. Nothing but a do-it-yourself kit can
>> solve this problem for the masses. Besides, they're running
>> scared from these Parker and Krieger Aces played by legal
>> amateurs.
>>
>> Just like the winner of last year's World Series of Poker,
>> just a competent amateur on a lucky streak. No matter how
>> rare the consummate professional, it doesn't mean there
>> can't be a lot of competent amateurs. And then, sometimes,
>> the odd competent amateur, bests the best professionals.
>> John The Engineer has already been credited with proving all
>> the world's economists wrong about interest fighting
>> inflation. John The Engineer dug out the truth while the
>> whole Canadian Bar and Bench were kept duped. Twice.
>>
>> I'm told the only reason anyone has to denounce people using
>> Turmel Quash the dead law kits is that I'm not a lawyer. Har
>> har har har. Compared to the Professor who can discern
>> fairness with math, the trial and error crowd are a bunch of
>> Gilligans.
>>
>> Anyway, it looks like the end of the end of the prohibition
>> of the Tree of Life may be just in time for The Engineer's
>> Report on the State of the biosphere to the World Social
>> Forum Jan 26-31 in Porto Alegre, Brazil.
>>
>> Winning the decriminalization of the Tree of Life would be a
>> wonderful prelude to the premier showing of the TURMEL video
>> by the Csomor Brothers at the World Social Forum, stressing
>> the Tree of Life; the Water of Life, the Credit Card of
>> Life.
>>
>> You can compare Naomi Klein and Avi Lewis's "TAKE" on social
>> money in Argentina versus the TURMEL take on it. Avi Lewis
>> is responsible for suppressing the message of LETS on his
>> MuchMusic "Talk me to your leader" show during my 1993 run
>> for Prime Minister of Canada. Bet he hid what LETS did for
>> Argentina too!
>>
>> Anyway, wouldn't victory over cannabis prohibition be a
>> wonderful event for my report to the World Social Forum who
>> are used to mainly hearing about UNILETS from me? Now that
>> almost every online encyclopedia in the world defines
>> UNILETS as a UN LETS, getting one set by by the World Social
>> Forum won't be all that hard for them to grasp.
>>
>> So a win tomorrow morning knocking down S.7 and S.4 in
>> Provincial Court and/or winning Friday to knock down S.4,
>> both knocking down my S.5 charge with them, really could
>> help me shake up the World Social Forum again this year.
>>
>> Of course, if they somehow duck these two upcoming hearings,
>> I'm going to be very upset. I just can't imagine what
>> they're doing. It always seems to come back to complete
>> capitulation, which is their optimum strategy. Fighting only
>> gets them deeper into trouble, takes more people down with
>> the ring-leaders.
>>
>> Gee, I can't wait to read the transcript when it reaches the
>> new exhibit with David Frankel's signature admitting the
>> government knew the law was dead while they were still
>> busting Canadians and this judge was probably convicting
>> them. Richard's going to tell the judge he has reason to be
>> angry with the Crown too.
>>
>> As a coach, I'm in a delightful state of anxiety. Here's one
>> of our team going in for the kill and the opposition haven't
>> shown to put up a fight! And they're going to tape it and
>> Suzanne has promised to type it up for medpot-discuss.
>>
>> Richard's even been prepared for them trying to withdraw the
>> charges. He'll insist on pushing ahead with his abuse of
>> process and contempt motion which deal with the process of
>> the court, not the evidence in issue.
>>
>> Wouldn't the Crown withdrawing the charges be a pain. Still,
>> what do they do 3 days later in Brantford with the Nielsen
>> family?
>>
>> If they pull giving up again, they know I'll kick into
>> action in the Supreme Court. The only way they're going to
>> get the Supremes off the hook is to lose now. Not merely
>> withdraw the charges. That's not good enough to mooten the
>> Turmel applications at the top. The only way to get the
>> reluctant Supremes off the hook is for the Crown to lose
>> below now.
>>
>> So what can they do? Stalling can't help. It's all
>> connected. And it's never going to end. More and more
>> victims will be found to file the attack forms. Narc Emery
>> doesn't have enough lawyers to help stall them all. And
>> there will be those who want to fight because they
>> understand their new Turmel-engineered armaments which
>> aren't all that hard to wield. KISS is the elegant
>> engineering.
>>
>> Am I missing something here? Can complete capitulation be
>> just around the corner? Or do they have some kind of plan?
>> Who's going to sign their name? Who would dare? 4 dead
>> epileptics a day attached to the signature. Who would dare?
>>
>> And maybe just in time to help influence the World Social
>> Forum. Enough speculation. Let's hope we get Sue's report to
>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/medpot-discuss so I can
>> pass it on to the world soon thereafter.
>>
>> What a case. Go re-read the Johnson Factum-Memorandum.
>> Perfect Krieger. "On all fours," lawyers like to say.
>> Completely analogous engineers like to say, even congruent.
>> Now re-read the government's Factum. Har har har har.
>>
>> --
>> Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
>> for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
>> to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
>> http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics
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