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Occam's Razor on Jesus; Occam's Razor on Shakespeare

Occam's Razor on Jesus; Occam's Razor on Shakespeare  
Archimedes Plutonium
 Joseph Smith Re: Occam's Razor on Jesus; Occam's Razor on Shakespeare  
Archimedes Plutonium
From:Archimedes Plutonium
Subject:Occam's Razor on Jesus; Occam's Razor on Shakespeare
Date:Fri, 07 Jan 2005 01:58:46 -0600
There are two men in history who deserve the logic of Occam's Razor the
most. The first is Jesus and the second is Shakespeare. Occam's Razor is
that logic which describes a story in its most simple terms and because
it is in its most simple terms has the highest probability of being the
truth behind the story. Simply put-- the most simple of explanations is
often the truth.

Jesus story Occam's Razor: Jesus was an ordinary human being, for
science tells us that no supernatural exists or has ever existed. And
James was the brother of Jesus. Jesus was a violent revolutionary
fighter of the Romans and would hide out in caves and John the Baptist
was a fellow fighter. There band of brigands or fighters used religion
as a means of recruitment and cover and disguise. Jesus was the leader
of one such band of fighters and he married Mary Magdalene who bore him
a son called Barabbas. One day the Jesus band with Barabbas rode into
Jerusalem and fought and killed some Romans as well as overturn
moneytables and disturbing the peace. Unfortunately for Jesus, Barabbas
was captured. So Jesus sent his 1st lieutenant of Judas into Jerusalem
to cut a deal with the Romans. That they release Barabbas and that
Jesus, his father would take the place on the crucifixion. In those days
of old Rome, Augustus Caesar was declared "son of god" and stamped on
the coins of that time period. So it was commonplace for conquered
countries to mock Rome by calling one of theirs as "son of god".
Caligula was declared "son of god". And we all know that Augustus and
Caligula were just ordinary human beings. So it was easy to brandish
Jesus, a broken man crucified as another "son of god". And it was easy
to brandish Jesus as dying to save humanity from sin from the act of
Jesus dying to save his true blood son of Barabbas. This above is the
Occam's Razor of Jesus and probably the true historical Jesus. The myth
story concocted in later centuries distorts it all out of proportion and
makes Jesus a supernatural, makes him a son of god and makes him dying
for the reason of saving humanity from sin.

This is the 21st century and humanity needs to grow up and realize that
Truth is Science and Science is the truth. And that God is Science, and
Science is God. We no longer need Jesus myth stories or any supernatural
story. It is science that landed us on the Moon. It is science that
built modern civilization. So we need to trashcan religion and in place
put science.

Shakespeare story Occam's Razor: this is an interesting example because
unlike the Jesus story it is closer to our modern day history for it
goes back only some 400 years whereas Jesus goes back 2,000 years. And
science should be able to unravel Shakespeare more easily than Jesus. My
Occam's Razor of Shakespeare is to say that from the evidence, the books
attributed to Shakespeare were all books written after Shakespeare had
died. In other words, the friends of Shakespeare wrote the books and
then put his name as author to them. To me that spells that the true
author of some of those works were probably other persons than
Shakespeare. Some candidates would be members of the Edward DeVere
family, and another candidate would be Christopher Marlowe.

We must ask ourselves a question. Could one man alone have written all
of those works ascribed to Shakespeare. Have travelled to Italy where
most of the plays are set? Have managed and operated the actors and the
playhouse where they were performed and taken care of his family? Could
one man have done all of that? I say no.

England in the time of Shakespeare was torn apart by religion with the
Queen having spies amoung the people making an environment of authorship
of plays where you would want to be anonymous for fear that the Queen
would call you a traitor.

This much we do know in that the personality of William Shakespeare was
such that he made alot of friends, for it is great friends who will
compile plays once dead and sign them with the author of Shakespeare
when the true author was a collection of various other people such as
Edward DeVere and Chris Marlowe.

Also by 1600 was a time in England where it wanted to boast greatness
for we see it in the rivalry of Newton versus Leibniz. And where England
needed an author that was greater than any German or French (Goethe or
Voltaire). Such an environment where the Queen could execute you as a
traitor and where England wanted to boast of a superior writer over all
others, is an environment where all the plays are culled and original
authors erased and compiled and then one name placed on all of those
works.

Any one researching the practicalness of whether a single human could
manage to do all that William Shakespeare is ascribed as doing verges on
the impossibility. William would not have had time to even have a drink
at the pub with his friends.

I reckon that Shakespeare may have been the author of about 2 of the
plays and that Edward DeVere and his daughters and Christopher Marlowe
wrote the majority of the plays.

But that England in those conditions wanted to boast an author that
stood far above any German or French author. And so on the death of
Shakespeare, the order was put out by the royalty to compile all the
plays and to affix one name as author.

So it is time ripe, now, for science to correct the wrong of
Shakespeare, although not as pressing as the Jesus correction because,
you must remember, that thousands and millions were not killed over
Shakespeare, but that thousands and millions have been killed over
Jesus.

Science is God, and god is Science because the universe itself is God
and the Universe is one big atom of plutonium where we are inside of
that atom.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
From:Archimedes Plutonium
Subject:Joseph Smith Re: Occam's Razor on Jesus; Occam's Razor on Shakespeare
Date:Sun, 09 Jan 2005 01:57:36 -0600

Fri, 07 Jan 2005 01:58:46 -0600 Archimedes Plutonium wrote:

> There are two men in history who deserve the logic of Occam's Razor the
> most. The first is Jesus and the second is Shakespeare. Occam's Razor is
> that logic which describes a story in its most simple terms and because
> it is in its most simple terms has the highest probability of being the
> truth behind the story. Simply put-- the most simple of explanations is
> often the truth.

Well those two human individuals certainly deserve an Occam's Razor but I
should not have said "most". For an Occam's Razor is needed for Joseph
Smith and the Book of Mormon.

Shakespeare never made an attempt to deceive the whole world because the
plays were written and compiled after his death and it was his friends,
with perhaps a gentle persuasion of the monarchy of England who compiled
all those plays and then affixed the name William Shakespeare as author.
Perhaps this affixing was due to the friendship that William was as a
person. Perhaps it was due to a demand by the British royalty. Perhaps it
was both, or, perhaps it was none of the above but something else. This
much is certain that no play exists that Shakespeare wrote in his own hands
and signed as author.

So by putting Shakespeare as deserving of Occam's Razor is more of a
mystery, logical solving but not a pressing solving because of harm or
detriment to Science.

But Jesus story and Joseph Smith story is a detriment to science and a hoax
and insult to humanity at large and deserves and requires a pressing
Occam's Razor. Because human education cannot be still with stories of a
man walking on water or spontaneous creation of matter (fish and bread in
baskets) or spontaneous heeling or other miracles, or the appearance of an
angel or gold tablets. The world cannot have science and physics and
chemistry and biology and have stories of Jesus or Joseph Smith. Both are
not true and real.

Perhaps I should not, or need not write about Joseph Smith because there
are ample people who have exposed the fakery or hoaxness of Book of Mormon.
But I should write about it because not much has been said in the defense
of science or the relationship of Science through history and how it deals
with religious fanaticism. I look upon Joseph Smith as an old time
religious fanatic and feel sorry that so many people have been hoodwinked
by his deception. I feel sorry for anyone who leads any part of their lives
under a deception.

And I am rather troubled that even by the 1820s that a major religion with
its hoaxes can form in a world where science has progressed as far as it
did by the 1820s. To think that the world in 1820s could accomodate and
accept a new religion based on a hoax and charade of gold tablets and
angel. That a new religion can spring up in the 1820s whilst science has
made huge strides by 1820s suggests to me that humanity is far dumber than
any of its bright spots of intelligence and wisdom. That we are 90% dumb
and stupid and silly with only a 10% intelligent and wise.

And I am saddened that no scientists, or big well known scientists of the
1820s and shortly thereafter stepped up and revealed the foisting of a hoax
on the world public. Although much credit is to be given to journalists of
that time period who showed that Solomon Spaulding wrote several fiction
books one of which was "The Manuscript Found" in 1812 where both Joseph
Smith and Spaulding continually use the phrase "Now it came to pass". And
that the book written by Ethan Smith of "The View of the Hebrews" parallels
"The Book of Mormon".

It is nice to see however that even a physicist, Mr. Lawrence of the Mormon
community inspected the Kinderhook Plates and found them to be fakery and a
hoax in that they were dated to 1840s blacksmith technology.

This is what is so sad about religions in that they play off the fears and
insecurity of the mass of people, and pretend and fake as if they are
special humans who have some link to God and they do this in order to gain
power wealth friends and fame. And they even break a rule of God by
liaring. Liaring that they saw an angel and liaring about gold plates.

I have said in a post many years back that I suspect a new religion is
almost impossible to take root now in our modern society because science is
so far advanced that no charlatan like Joseph Smith could ever hoodwink a
population of people. But then again 90% of the people on Earth are dummies
when it comes to science and only 10% know that Science is above religion.

In fact, Science is God, because only science gives the truth, and God is
Science. And in the Atom Totality theory we are part of God because the
entire Cosmos itself is God and our planet, our body is a tiny part of God.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
   

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