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TURMEL: World Social Time Credits for tsunami repair

TURMEL: World Social Time Credits for tsunami repair  
John Turmel
From:John Turmel
Subject:TURMEL: World Social Time Credits for tsunami repair
Date:18 Jan 2005 03:51:39 GMT

JCT: The World Social Forum over 20,000 Non Government
Organisations is taking place in Porto Alegre Brazil from
Jan 26 to 31 2005. Yesterday, I posted my first wsf501
report to the world and to last year's 1200 wsf4list
participants.

The International Journal of Community Currency Research
group at http://yahoogroups.com/group/ijccr had heard the
suggestion for a world social currency before but the recent
tsunami has made the case for a world social time credits
more clearly than ever before.

>From: ijccr@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:15:22 +0900
>From: Miguel Yasuyuki Hirota
>Subject: Complementary currencies for the reconstruction of
>tsunami-affected are as

JCT: Mr. Hirota is one of the Japan's best-known interest-
free currency advocates.

Dear all,
Les Squires, of Access foundation, has set up a wiki to work
for the designing as well as the implementation and
administration of complementary currency systems for the
regions which suffered a lot of damage from the tsunami last
month. I appreciate him for his efforts to do so...
http://www.cctsunami.org/
Visit this website, register yourself and add whatever you
know to enhance our efforts to help people there. Best,
Miguel

JCT: Isn't it wonderful that someone is helping build from
the bottom up? But would it not be wiser to do the
implementation and administration of complementary currency
systems for the regions which suffered a lot of damage from
the tsunami last month, and all the rest of us too, from the
top down?

Setting up trading relations between people with nothing to
trade isn't as wise as setting up trading relations between
people with nothing to trade yet and people with something
trade now.

>Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:58:57 +1100
>From: "Graeme Taylor"
>Subject: Re: Complementary currencies for the
reconstruction of tsunami-affected areas

Hi Miguel and others

Thanks for keeping us up to date on the Access Foundation
and their collaborators in using CCs to develop a more
sustainable future for people devastated by the tsunami.
They need infrastructure.
They need immediate crisis supports.
They need long term plans for their future.
They don't need further debts with interest attached.
They may need the money that trickles in when transnational
corporations go in to "help", but it would be good if they
had some choice.
A local currency, that, when people choose to use it, has a
redistributive mechanism that is for local environmental /
cultural projects, a kind of built in tytheing, can create
the mechanism for co-creating appropriate infrastructure.
A LETS arrangement, with set limits on balances, and with a
% of each transaction going to local projects.
Like, the money one chooses, can have a % going to bankers,
why not then, an alternative with a % that grows community
resilience. cheers Graeme Taylor

JCT: Sure all sounds wonderful but as long as people with
nothing are split apart from people with something, the
mechanism can't really help the nothings much. We need a way
of international cooperation that Local Employment-Trading
can't provide. It's got to go international.

For instance, they need things that cost money. I, in
Canada, can't spare any money. I can spare some time. I
could give time to a guy with money who could then send
money to buy things. If we both belonged to the same LETS to
do the accounting.

But, with a LETS, why should it be charity. Isaiah 55 says
interest-free credit is just as fair as charity. Why
shouldn't the recipient of my buddy's cash value acknowledge
the hour of labor I provided to get it to him? Just because
they hit a bad streak and went broke is no reason for them
to need charity when they can try to repay the time in later
years to other victims?

So if there were a UNILETS mechanism, there would be no need
for all the beg-a-thons for charity. I work an hour for a
buddy who sends an hour's value to the victim who tries in
later years to return to hour to society that supported me
while I held his IOU. Or held his IOU instead of me.

The point is that international disasters can't be helped
much with local LETS credits systems. But they could be
helped with a World Social Forum Credits system.

All it takes is for the World Social Forum to adopt the Time
Standard of Money and endorse Resolution to Governments C6
in the Millennium Declaration to use a Time-Based Currency
to restructure the global financial architecture and the
world is saved without the intervention of the United
Nations or World Governments. Har har har har.

Imagine that. Just like the private barter networks bypassed
the broke government in Argentina to fund municipal
services, The World Social Forum has the 20,000-group size,
the global breadth, and the computers to install a World
Social Forum Credit System to supplant the World Usury
Credit System. Over the week-end.

Come on. Admit it. If the World Social Forum installs the
LETS time trading software on its network and sets up a
front page where anyone can subscribe personally or sub
their village, it extends time trading to the whole world
almost overnight.

The biggest database upgrade in history wiping out the debt
slavery Usury system in one stroke done by a group of
people. And these World Social Fora will be the instrument
of our deliverance from our exponential debts.

Sure, most organisations are loaded with bank moles, since
banks can afford to subvert all opposition organisations. My
experience with the pro-cannabis establishment in Canada
convinced me that the people at the top are all traitors to
the movement to decriminalize the Tree of Life.

How could the bankers not have infiltrated all the
opposition groups to the debt slavery system banks too? The
50 Years is Enough saboteurs back in 1999. All the agents
within the Time banks and LETS movements responsible for
installing the engineering defects I've warned against for
decades? They're not idiots so they installed the defects
deliberately despite my shouting. Or they are idiots for
installing the defects because they didn't like my loudness.

Regardless, if they're in the delegation to the World Social
Forum, they're the top organizers and most likely Judas
Goats. Wow. So easy to bet on too.

But no matter how many banker agents are working to keep
the solution out, a World Social Credit System by the World
Social Forum seems the logical place that it will eventually
break out.

Unless one rich man, like Microsoft Gates, were to use
interest-free emoney. But he had his chance to fix the world
5 years ago and let 200 extra million souls die. Tell him
the guy accusing him of letting an extra 200 million die
that he could have saved was the lone activist protesting
outside his Redmond Microsoft Office building every
afternoon during the Battle in Seattle. I was downtown
denouncing the problem with the 100,000 kids and picketing
Bill Gates later with the solution alone across the river.

World Social Forum could easily resolve to:
1) adopt the Time Standard of Money;
2) endorse the UNILETS Millennium Resolution;
3) get WSF computers operators to set up a World Social
Time-based Credits System before by end of Forum.

Do it and the banks you decry will wither on their usurious
vine much like they did in Argentina when people switched to
Graindollars. Rich people won't be able to get their old
money but will be able to use our new money. The positive
feedback banking system will die.

And the World Social Forum will now turn become the arena
where those who want to deliver our planet from the scourge
of usury, cause of all war, and those who work for the
keepers will wage for humanity's soul. Not at the UN of
national political interests but at the World Forum of
Social interests.

I don't think I've ever explained how usury is the cause of
wars so this is brand new.

David Astle's Babylonian Woe set the historical premise.

First of all, keep in mind that Alexander the Great was made
to wait for the loan he needed to conquer the world by his
local gold-bullion-broker. In his conquests, he was always
after their gold and slaves to pay off his loan-shark. If
they were after gold and slaves, they were probably in debt
making war trying to get out of out of debt or out of debt
making war trying to stay there. "The Pit" is one name.

But go back a few millennia when no one had enough gold in
one pile to finance world conquest yet.

But you did have these huge powerful well-guarded trading
caravans travelling around buying and selling slaves with
gold.

Now, if you bought something neat and signed an IOU for the
gold to get it, if you got your tribe into debt like many
dictators have done, and couldn't pay, you had to hand over
all your gold when the Master's caravan arrived or some
slaves. And if you have no slaves, the deal was that you and
your kin became the slaves they took away.

And the debt is always the principle times the interest
rate. The debt is always greater than the gold available to
pay. So you either keep handing over family when the slave-
master arrives or you get into raiding too.

Now imagine all the tribes around you are in the same
predicament. The tribal leaders all bought these neat new
swords, had a few fights and signed up for even bigger
swords, all are in debt to the global bankers and arms
dealers with the only way of getting out of debt by coming
up with gold or slaves.

If your tribe is tough enough, you might prefer to raid
another tribe, grab a few of their people and use them to
pay off the travelling usury slave-master. And it pays off
to united tribes so it's always the "aliens" who are being
sold into slavery at yearly accounting period when the
Master caravan arrives to claim his due, not your kin.

Now imagine all the regions around you are in the same
predicament. They'd better organize to be able to get their
tribes into even bigger armies.

Now imagine all the nations around yours arming and having
to raid you before you can raid them to see which of you
will be able to pay the travelling slave-master at
accounting time. He can beat you both up but would rather
let you fight it out among yourselves.

The name of the usury mort-gage game is death-gamble. They
all borrowed 10 pieces of gold and made the impossible
contract to all pay back 11 pieces of gold forgetting "Gold
has no babies" and human slaves was the only other currency.

So, throughout all history, they raid you and yours to pay
their impossible debts to the money-lenders and you raid
them and theirs to pay your impossible to the same guys.

Everywhere, bubbling up is the never-ending demand for more
gold or slaves. Never peace. Never strong enough because you
need slavery to cope with your own debts. If you ain't the
buyer, you're the sale. Always barbarians on the outside
raiding to get get in. Always. Throughout all recorded human
history. The impulse to war and slavery for no apparent
reason. Even Alexander the Great really didn't want to
destroy everything. He just wanted the deeds to the property
so he could mortgage more money for an even bigger army. Why
eternal war for no apparent reason? Because the reason is
only apparent in the account books of the usury money-
lender. Just like today.

Imagine what kind of organization could do this, pit each
tribe at each other's throats forever. Some think such
degenerate thinking must be alien but I firmly hope our
world's international bankers are simply degenerate humans.
Or we're in real trouble if the usury system is galactic.
But it sure paid off for the money-lenders despite the
carcasses of their slaves.

Imagine them still doing it to us today!!!!

Now appreciate that all the great Buddhist, Hebrew,
Christian, Muslim preachers all denounced usury, interest on
something that has no babies.

Now appreciate that global banksters were global even if
they've erased the recorded evidence of that. The same
weights for gold were used from China to Britain 5000 years
ago. The gold slave-traders were doing the usury scam 5000
years ago. And thus the constant need for war, to raid or be
raided, to pay debts impossible for everyone by the usury
trick.

So accept that in ancient times,the global loan-sharks had
almost every village in the world tied up in debt chains.
Those in debt could not resist and those with cash held the
chains could never give their usury up.

But it was constant combat for freedom or pillage. Go read
ancient Egyptian history. It was the constant fending off of
encroachments by barbarians, constant raids of pillage and
conquest.

And when the bankers really wanted to make easy foreclosure
pickings, they'd put large parts of their to the sword by
pooling their gold and financing an Alexander the Great.

Alex The Great Debtor.

Har har har har.

--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics
   

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