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 | | From: | Leo | | Subject: | Isoflavones | | Date: | 19 Dec 2004 11:38:09 -0800 |
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 | ?In males, levels of 17B-estradiol and testosterone were not
affected, but levels of 3a, 17B- androstanediol glucuronide (a
metabolite of dihydrotestosterone) and dehydroepiandrosterone
sulfate were decreased by 13% and 14%, respectively, after 2-4
weeks of daily soya ingestion.?
Sounds bad! But did you read the conclusion of the study: "We conclude
that soya consumption can affect hormones that regulate growth of
neoplastic cells, and that this may account at least in part for
decreased cancer risk in populations with high legume consumption."
So let us eat more soy!
http://www.isoflavones.info
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| | From: | Bruce Sinclair | | Subject: | Re: Isoflavones | | Date: | Mon, 20 Dec 2004 04:16:57 GMT |
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| In article <57c03fb4.0412191138.307ce818@posting.google.com>, leow@europe.com (Leo) wrote:
>?In males, levels of 17B-estradiol and testosterone were not
> affected, but levels of 3a, 17B- androstanediol glucuronide (a
> metabolite of dihydrotestosterone) and dehydroepiandrosterone
> sulfate were decreased by 13% and 14%, respectively, after 2-4
> weeks of daily soya ingestion.?
>
>Sounds bad! But did you read the conclusion of the study: "We conclude
>that soya consumption can affect hormones that regulate growth of
>neoplastic cells, and that this may account at least in part for
>decreased cancer risk in populations with high legume consumption."
>
>So let us eat more soy!
Maybe when it tastes good :)
Bruce
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Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals
dying of nothing.
-Redd Foxx
Caution ===== followups may have been changed to relevant groups
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| | From: | usual suspect | | Subject: | Re: Isoflavones | | Date: | Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:03:50 GMT |
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| Leo wrote:
> ?In males, levels of 17B-estradiol and testosterone were not
> affected, but levels of 3a, 17B- androstanediol glucuronide (a
> metabolite of dihydrotestosterone) and dehydroepiandrosterone
> sulfate were decreased by 13% and 14%, respectively, after 2-4
> weeks of daily soya ingestion.?
>
> Sounds bad! But did you read the conclusion of the study: "We conclude
> that soya consumption can affect hormones that regulate growth of
> neoplastic cells, and that this may account at least in part for
> decreased cancer risk in populations with high legume consumption."
Other studies have shown possible associative risks between soy
consumption and other forms of cancer. Indeed, some of the links I
offered note the higher incidence of esophegal and other alimentary
cancers in Asia -- thought to possibly be from a higher intake of soy.
> So let us eat more soy!
No, let's do more research before we take ONE study and make unfounded
generalizations from it.
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| | From: | Chuck | | Subject: | Re: Isoflavones | | Date: | Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:03:02 -0600 |
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| Everyone appears to be fearful of something happening to them but we are
getting fatter and living longer than ever before, Why? Are all these
"chemicals" really good for us and actually making us live longer. Before
the turn of the century (1900) average life expectancy was less than 45,
What is it today and why?
Chuck
"usual suspect" wrote in message
news:G8lxd.27600$jf5.10539@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> Leo wrote:
>> ?In males, levels of 17B-estradiol and testosterone were not
>> affected, but levels of 3a, 17B- androstanediol glucuronide (a
>> metabolite of dihydrotestosterone) and dehydroepiandrosterone
>> sulfate were decreased by 13% and 14%, respectively, after 2-4
>> weeks of daily soya ingestion.?
>>
>> Sounds bad! But did you read the conclusion of the study: "We conclude
>> that soya consumption can affect hormones that regulate growth of
>> neoplastic cells, and that this may account at least in part for
>> decreased cancer risk in populations with high legume consumption."
>
> Other studies have shown possible associative risks between soy
> consumption and other forms of cancer. Indeed, some of the links I offered
> note the higher incidence of esophegal and other alimentary cancers in
> Asia -- thought to possibly be from a higher intake of soy.
>
>> So let us eat more soy!
>
> No, let's do more research before we take ONE study and make unfounded
> generalizations from it.
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| | From: | Bruce Sinclair | | Subject: | Re: Isoflavones | | Date: | Mon, 20 Dec 2004 04:17:55 GMT |
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| In article <10sbujar2cmm2ac@corp.supernews.com>, "Chuck" wrote:
>Everyone appears to be fearful of something happening to them but we are
>getting fatter and living longer than ever before, Why? Are all these
>"chemicals" really good for us and actually making us live longer. Before
>the turn of the century (1900) average life expectancy was less than 45,
>What is it today and why?
Do you have an opinion ? ... and does it agree with the data already
gathered on this subject ? :)
Bruce
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Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals
dying of nothing.
-Redd Foxx
Caution ===== followups may have been changed to relevant groups
(if there were any)
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