 | | From: | CChar1151 | | Subject: | Preparing stock for glue up without a jointer | | Date: | 23 Jan 2005 07:01:48 GMT |
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 | Anyone have opinions on how to prepare stock for glue up without a jointer. All
opinions are appreciated.
Thanks!
Cary
CChar1151@aol.com
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| | From: | pat at patwarner.com | | Subject: | Re: Preparing stock for glue up without a jointer | | Date: | 23 Jan 2005 07:42:14 -0800 |
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| A schedule and setup at the:
http://www.patwarner.com/routertable_jointing.html link.
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| | From: | Zeke | | Subject: | Re: Preparing stock for glue up without a jointer | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:02:15 -0500 |
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| In article <1106494934.689749.283300@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
pat@patwarner.com says...
> A schedule and setup at the:
> http://www.patwarner.com/routertable_jointing.html link.
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Hi Pat. I finished my version of your router table fence about a month
ago. What a great fence. Thank you! One of the woodworking mags had a
couple of video tips from you demonstrating the use of router sleds, and
I am unable to find them anymore. Do you know if they are still online
anywhere? I've built the sleds from memory and they work great, but I'd
like to see the videos again. Thanks for all of your efforts.
Zeke
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| | From: | Unisaw A100 | | Subject: | Re: Preparing stock for glue up without a jointer | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 06:26:40 -0600 |
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| For edge gluing I use my table saw.
Your Mileage May Vary and you should/will need a good blade
and properly tuned (blade to miter slot/fence to miter slot)
saw.
UA100
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| | From: | George E. Cawthon | | Subject: | Re: Preparing stock for glue up without a jointer | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 05:39:08 GMT |
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| Unisaw A100 wrote:
> For edge gluing I use my table saw.
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> Your Mileage May Vary and you should/will need a good blade
> and properly tuned (blade to miter slot/fence to miter slot)
> saw.
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> UA100
My thought also if dealing with 3/4" material even though
what I have used in the past is rather primitive for this
group. Nonetheless, for softwoods, I used a radial arm saw
with a Craftsman, planer blade. Always put a dado in the
edge for a 1/4" x 1/2" piece of plywood, and used 2x4s
across the joints to keep them flat during glue up. Worked
very well as long as I was careful.
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| | From: | charlie b | | Subject: | Re: Preparing stock for glue up without a jointer | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:46:25 -0800 |
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| CChar1151 wrote:
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> Anyone have opinions on how to prepare stock for glue up without a jointer. All
> opinions are appreciated.
> Thanks!
I'm going to assume it's just getting the two edges to
match up "light tight" (hold them together, hold up
to the light and not see light coming through the joint)
that you're asking about. A hand plane will do the
job, longer edges requiring a longer plane like a #7
or #8.
If you hand plane the edges together AND orient the
parts right, the edges don't have to be perfectly
square to the board faces. Getting the mating pairs
of edges straight isn't that hard (well maybe on a
5 or 6 foot length but a joiner might have a little
trouble getting the edges straight unless the
infeed and outfeed tables are pretty long). Getting
the edges square is a little more difficult though
Veritas makes a magnetic clip on guide that sure
helps.
Check this out. It'll explain things better than "all
text". Some decent illustrations are worth far
more than several thousand words.
http://home.comcast.net/~charliebcz/Resawing4.html
charlie b
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| | From: | Upscale | | Subject: | Re: Preparing stock for glue up without a jointer | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:38:01 -0500 |
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| "charlie b" wrote in message
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> I'm going to assume it's just getting the two edges to
> match up "light tight" (hold them together, hold up
> to the light and not see light coming through the joint)
> that you're asking about. A hand plane will do the
> job, longer edges requiring a longer plane like a #7
> or #8.
I was wondering about another method. Would putting the edges of the boards
together edge to edge, fixing them in place in relation to each other and
then running them through a tablesaw so the blade was in contact with both
those edges at the same time. Would that work? I've seen some fine edges
created with the proper table saw blade.
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| | From: | Unisaw A100 | | Subject: | Re: Preparing stock for glue up without a jointer | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:42:07 -0600 |
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| Upscale wrote:
>I was wondering about another method. Would putting the edges of the boards
>together edge to edge, fixing them in place in relation to each other and
>then running them through a tablesaw so the blade was in contact with both
>those edges at the same time. Would that work? I've seen some fine edges
>created with the proper table saw blade.
Fine Woodworking did something similar but different about
15-20 years ago. It was an article on two wavy edges that
would mate up near perfectly. They worked up the edge on
one piece and copy routed it to the next piece (pieces edge
to edge/separated by the diameter of the bit minus a wee
bit).
Mathematically it's flawed but a little glue and proper
clampage and you couldn't tell. Long story short, it looks
good and would seem to work for straight(ish) stock.
UA100
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| | From: | Peter Mance | | Subject: | Re: Preparing stock for glue up without a jointer | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:11:20 +1100 |
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| I've had some good results clamping the two edges together with a
straight edge then cleaning with a flush trim bit in the router
(referencing the bit against the straight edge).
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| | From: | Edwin Pawlowski | | Subject: | Re: Preparing stock for glue up without a jointer | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:32:26 GMT |
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"CChar1151" wrote in message
news:20050123020148.10663.00000226@mb-m29.aol.com...
> Anyone have opinions on how to prepare stock for glue up without a
> jointer. All
> opinions are appreciated.
> Thanks!
> Cary
> CChar1151@aol.com
Depends on what kind of wood. True rough cut may have all sorts of twist and
bends. Much of the rough cut at some places is already skip planed and the
dealer will joint and edge and face for you. Then you just do the other
edge on the table saw with a good blade and finish in a planer.
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| | From: | JGS | | Subject: | Re: Preparing stock for glue up without a jointer | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 06:47:25 -0500 |
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| Hi Cary,
Do you have a router and a router table? If you do you can add a shim to the
outfeed side of the fence and it will work using a straight bit but usually
requires a bit of friggin. JG
CChar1151 wrote:
> Anyone have opinions on how to prepare stock for glue up without a jointer. All
> opinions are appreciated.
> Thanks!
> Cary
> CChar1151@aol.com
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| | From: | BillyBob | | Subject: | Re: Preparing stock for glue up without a jointer | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:03:08 GMT |
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"CChar1151" wrote in message
news:20050123020148.10663.00000226@mb-m29.aol.com...
> Anyone have opinions on how to prepare stock for glue up without a
jointer. All
> opinions are appreciated.
How about a jointer plane? Of course you need a good way to hold the wood
to be successful. Its takes some doing to get fully set up to joint a board
by hand, but once its done, you can do things really fast on future jobs.
Bob
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