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Need a new boom!

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fish
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Bullroarer_Took
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The Dog
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Will Harper
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WARDOG
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Paul Braunbehrens
From:fish
Subject:Need a new boom!
Date:20 Jan 2005 06:23:57 -0800
Hola amigos...
I bent the crap out of my North boom on a nice balmy day last week...
and although I will probably replace the bent arm and continue using
it, I am thinking about replacing it too. I don't often bust aluminum
booms, I am pretty lightweight at 150lbs and they seem to typically
last 3-5yrs or so without becoming too floppy. So - eventhough I'd
love to go carbon, I probably won't do it cuz of cost.
I used to be happy with the Chinooks, but haven't used one of the new
ones with the new Triple Clamp boom head. What are they like?
The reason I like the North Progression Comps is the diameter - it is
right in between the chinook diameters which is perfect for me. The
narrow chinook just feels too small, but the big is too big. Other
than that, durability for the North is definitely worse than the
Chinooks from my experience.
Comments? Any big big votes for carbone? Any comments on the WH
Makai? Gulftechs (don't even know where to get them)?
I use skinnies almost exclusively. My sailing is all B&J and waves -
6.0 - 3.5. This would be my small boom though, going down to 135 or
140cm a must, doesn't have to cover the 6.0.
Thanks in advance for comments!
FISH
From:Bullroarer_Took
Subject:Re: Need a new boom!
Date:20 Jan 2005 09:04:20 -0800

fish wrote:
> Hola amigos...

I have been using 3 North Progression Carbons for 10 seasons now.
These are the Pro carbons that were released in '95. I did bend an
aluminum before that, but the carbons have taken some serious hits and
not even blinked. I should point out that I take them completely apart
after every use to prevent electrolysis between the carbon & metal
parts. I have had to replace the front ends a couple times because the
ski buckle type wore out. The current line type is solid.

Derek
From:The Dog
Subject:Re: Need a new boom!
Date:Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:52:35 -0600
In article <1106231037.235745.122810@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
fishinator@hotmail.com says...
> Hola amigos...
> I bent the crap out of my North boom on a nice balmy day last week...
> and although I will probably replace the bent arm and continue using
> it, I am thinking about replacing it too. I don't often bust aluminum
> booms, I am pretty lightweight at 150lbs and they seem to typically
> last 3-5yrs or so without becoming too floppy. So - eventhough I'd
> love to go carbon, I probably won't do it cuz of cost.
> I used to be happy with the Chinooks, but haven't used one of the new
> ones with the new Triple Clamp boom head. What are they like?
> The reason I like the North Progression Comps is the diameter - it is
> right in between the chinook diameters which is perfect for me. The
> narrow chinook just feels too small, but the big is too big. Other
> than that, durability for the North is definitely worse than the
> Chinooks from my experience.
> Comments? Any big big votes for carbone? Any comments on the WH
> Makai? Gulftechs (don't even know where to get them)?
> I use skinnies almost exclusively. My sailing is all B&J and waves -
> 6.0 - 3.5. This would be my small boom though, going down to 135 or
> 140cm a must, doesn't have to cover the 6.0.
> Thanks in advance for comments!
> FISH

I like the triple clamp front end and the price on the Chinooks is
good. You won't need an adapter to run the Chinook Triple Clamp on a
skinny, which should make the boom feel tighter. Not much can be
done about the diameter. And there's some pretty incredible
mechanical advantage on the Triple Clamp, so be careful. You don't
have to grunt to get the boom secure.

You could always check the HPL Aluminum. They're a few bucks more
than the Chinook and have been very reliable. You'll need an adapter
to run on a skinny.

You can get Gulftech through Wind Express.

With the sail sizes you're talking, Carbon doesn't offer much in
weight savings or added stiffness. Some of the small carbon booms
are pretty much bombproof. That said, you can probably buy 3+
aluminum booms for 1 carbon boom.

Dog
--
http://www.mariner-sails.com
http://www.thedoghouse.net
From:Will Harper
Subject:Re: Need a new boom!
Date:Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:46:09 -0800

fish wrote:

>Comments? Any big big votes for carbone? Any comments on the WH
>Makai? Gulftechs (don't even know where to get them)?
>
>
You can get Gulftech booms at www.windexpress.com


w
From:WARDOG
Subject:Re: Need a new boom!
Date:Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:19:20 -0800
Hi fish,
Epic Gear booms are identical to Gulftech,
http://www.surfingsports.com/epic_gear_booms.asp
different grip graphics, manufactured in the same plant...works on
skinnies without shim...although, I have gone back to using RDM shims on
all of these style heads because it ensures no slippage and less
abrasion on the mast...

WH Makais are not made anymore...I was supposed to receive one of the
new WH booms, but haven't yet...
HPL's are great...aluminums are nice and stiff/great value...carbons
even stiffer...and I like the new grip graphics...
Regardless of what some posters may say, carbon is superior in small
booms/ sails/ higher winds...measurably so...they do make a difference...

I don't know of a single sailor that has gone back to aluminum after
being on carbon, if they can afford it...lots of sailors rationalize
their smaller aluminum booms, that's fine, but the fact remains carbons
provide a more direct connection of the sailor to the rig...

Same in masts...higher carbon content, the better...
You prolly know that as you are on RDM's...
High winds are gusty...the differential between lull and peaks is spread
apart...sometimes 3-4-5 times...the entire rig benefits from high
content carbon...less deformation...better performance...
Aluminums are great value if you're on a budget, but carbon booms are
definitely a better product...don't try them if you can't afford them...
I made that mistake once on a 3.7m2 day...ignorance was bliss...;-)

WARDOG
http://www.surfingsports.com

fish wrote:

> Hola amigos...
> I bent the crap out of my North boom on a nice balmy day last week...
> and although I will probably replace the bent arm and continue using
> it, I am thinking about replacing it too. I don't often bust aluminum
> booms, I am pretty lightweight at 150lbs and they seem to typically
> last 3-5yrs or so without becoming too floppy. So - eventhough I'd
> love to go carbon, I probably won't do it cuz of cost.
> I used to be happy with the Chinooks, but haven't used one of the new
> ones with the new Triple Clamp boom head. What are they like?
> The reason I like the North Progression Comps is the diameter - it is
> right in between the chinook diameters which is perfect for me. The
> narrow chinook just feels too small, but the big is too big. Other
> than that, durability for the North is definitely worse than the
> Chinooks from my experience.
> Comments? Any big big votes for carbone? Any comments on the WH
> Makai? Gulftechs (don't even know where to get them)?
> I use skinnies almost exclusively. My sailing is all B&J and waves -
> 6.0 - 3.5. This would be my small boom though, going down to 135 or
> 140cm a must, doesn't have to cover the 6.0.
> Thanks in advance for comments!
> FISH
>
From:Paul Braunbehrens
Subject:Re: Need a new boom!
Date:Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:49:42 -0800
The triple clamp chinook is very nice, and will fit on a skinny or
regular mast without any shims. I like it a lot.

I've never used carbon, following the philosophy that you won't miss
what you don't know. I blow enough money on this sport as it is.

The triple clamp chinooks are also set up to make adjustable outhauls
very easy to install.



In article <1106231037.235745.122810@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
fish wrote:

> Hola amigos...
> I bent the crap out of my North boom on a nice balmy day last week...
> and although I will probably replace the bent arm and continue using
> it, I am thinking about replacing it too. I don't often bust aluminum
> booms, I am pretty lightweight at 150lbs and they seem to typically
> last 3-5yrs or so without becoming too floppy. So - eventhough I'd
> love to go carbon, I probably won't do it cuz of cost.
> I used to be happy with the Chinooks, but haven't used one of the new
> ones with the new Triple Clamp boom head. What are they like?
> The reason I like the North Progression Comps is the diameter - it is
> right in between the chinook diameters which is perfect for me. The
> narrow chinook just feels too small, but the big is too big. Other
> than that, durability for the North is definitely worse than the
> Chinooks from my experience.
> Comments? Any big big votes for carbone? Any comments on the WH
> Makai? Gulftechs (don't even know where to get them)?
> I use skinnies almost exclusively. My sailing is all B&J and waves -
> 6.0 - 3.5. This would be my small boom though, going down to 135 or
> 140cm a must, doesn't have to cover the 6.0.
> Thanks in advance for comments!
> FISH
>
   

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