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 | | From: | fish | | Subject: | Need a new boom! | | Date: | 20 Jan 2005 06:23:57 -0800 |
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 | Hola amigos... I bent the crap out of my North boom on a nice balmy day last week... and although I will probably replace the bent arm and continue using it, I am thinking about replacing it too. I don't often bust aluminum booms, I am pretty lightweight at 150lbs and they seem to typically last 3-5yrs or so without becoming too floppy. So - eventhough I'd love to go carbon, I probably won't do it cuz of cost. I used to be happy with the Chinooks, but haven't used one of the new ones with the new Triple Clamp boom head. What are they like? The reason I like the North Progression Comps is the diameter - it is right in between the chinook diameters which is perfect for me. The narrow chinook just feels too small, but the big is too big. Other than that, durability for the North is definitely worse than the Chinooks from my experience. Comments? Any big big votes for carbone? Any comments on the WH Makai? Gulftechs (don't even know where to get them)? I use skinnies almost exclusively. My sailing is all B&J and waves - 6.0 - 3.5. This would be my small boom though, going down to 135 or 140cm a must, doesn't have to cover the 6.0. Thanks in advance for comments! FISH
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 | | From: | Bullroarer_Took | | Subject: | Re: Need a new boom! | | Date: | 20 Jan 2005 09:04:20 -0800 |
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 | fish wrote: > Hola amigos...
I have been using 3 North Progression Carbons for 10 seasons now. These are the Pro carbons that were released in '95. I did bend an aluminum before that, but the carbons have taken some serious hits and not even blinked. I should point out that I take them completely apart after every use to prevent electrolysis between the carbon & metal parts. I have had to replace the front ends a couple times because the ski buckle type wore out. The current line type is solid.
Derek
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 | | From: | The Dog | | Subject: | Re: Need a new boom! | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:52:35 -0600 |
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 | In article <1106231037.235745.122810@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, fishinator@hotmail.com says... > Hola amigos... > I bent the crap out of my North boom on a nice balmy day last week... > and although I will probably replace the bent arm and continue using > it, I am thinking about replacing it too. I don't often bust aluminum > booms, I am pretty lightweight at 150lbs and they seem to typically > last 3-5yrs or so without becoming too floppy. So - eventhough I'd > love to go carbon, I probably won't do it cuz of cost. > I used to be happy with the Chinooks, but haven't used one of the new > ones with the new Triple Clamp boom head. What are they like? > The reason I like the North Progression Comps is the diameter - it is > right in between the chinook diameters which is perfect for me. The > narrow chinook just feels too small, but the big is too big. Other > than that, durability for the North is definitely worse than the > Chinooks from my experience. > Comments? Any big big votes for carbone? Any comments on the WH > Makai? Gulftechs (don't even know where to get them)? > I use skinnies almost exclusively. My sailing is all B&J and waves - > 6.0 - 3.5. This would be my small boom though, going down to 135 or > 140cm a must, doesn't have to cover the 6.0. > Thanks in advance for comments! > FISH
I like the triple clamp front end and the price on the Chinooks is good. You won't need an adapter to run the Chinook Triple Clamp on a skinny, which should make the boom feel tighter. Not much can be done about the diameter. And there's some pretty incredible mechanical advantage on the Triple Clamp, so be careful. You don't have to grunt to get the boom secure.
You could always check the HPL Aluminum. They're a few bucks more than the Chinook and have been very reliable. You'll need an adapter to run on a skinny.
You can get Gulftech through Wind Express.
With the sail sizes you're talking, Carbon doesn't offer much in weight savings or added stiffness. Some of the small carbon booms are pretty much bombproof. That said, you can probably buy 3+ aluminum booms for 1 carbon boom.
Dog -- http://www.mariner-sails.com http://www.thedoghouse.net
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 | | From: | Will Harper | | Subject: | Re: Need a new boom! | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:46:09 -0800 |
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 | fish wrote:
>Comments? Any big big votes for carbone? Any comments on the WH >Makai? Gulftechs (don't even know where to get them)? > > You can get Gulftech booms at www.windexpress.com
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 | | From: | WARDOG | | Subject: | Re: Need a new boom! | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:19:20 -0800 |
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 | Hi fish, Epic Gear booms are identical to Gulftech, http://www.surfingsports.com/epic_gear_booms.asp different grip graphics, manufactured in the same plant...works on skinnies without shim...although, I have gone back to using RDM shims on all of these style heads because it ensures no slippage and less abrasion on the mast...
WH Makais are not made anymore...I was supposed to receive one of the new WH booms, but haven't yet... HPL's are great...aluminums are nice and stiff/great value...carbons even stiffer...and I like the new grip graphics... Regardless of what some posters may say, carbon is superior in small booms/ sails/ higher winds...measurably so...they do make a difference...
I don't know of a single sailor that has gone back to aluminum after being on carbon, if they can afford it...lots of sailors rationalize their smaller aluminum booms, that's fine, but the fact remains carbons provide a more direct connection of the sailor to the rig...
Same in masts...higher carbon content, the better... You prolly know that as you are on RDM's... High winds are gusty...the differential between lull and peaks is spread apart...sometimes 3-4-5 times...the entire rig benefits from high content carbon...less deformation...better performance... Aluminums are great value if you're on a budget, but carbon booms are definitely a better product...don't try them if you can't afford them... I made that mistake once on a 3.7m2 day...ignorance was bliss...;-)
WARDOG http://www.surfingsports.com
fish wrote:
> Hola amigos... > I bent the crap out of my North boom on a nice balmy day last week... > and although I will probably replace the bent arm and continue using > it, I am thinking about replacing it too. I don't often bust aluminum > booms, I am pretty lightweight at 150lbs and they seem to typically > last 3-5yrs or so without becoming too floppy. So - eventhough I'd > love to go carbon, I probably won't do it cuz of cost. > I used to be happy with the Chinooks, but haven't used one of the new > ones with the new Triple Clamp boom head. What are they like? > The reason I like the North Progression Comps is the diameter - it is > right in between the chinook diameters which is perfect for me. The > narrow chinook just feels too small, but the big is too big. Other > than that, durability for the North is definitely worse than the > Chinooks from my experience. > Comments? Any big big votes for carbone? Any comments on the WH > Makai? Gulftechs (don't even know where to get them)? > I use skinnies almost exclusively. My sailing is all B&J and waves - > 6.0 - 3.5. This would be my small boom though, going down to 135 or > 140cm a must, doesn't have to cover the 6.0. > Thanks in advance for comments! > FISH >
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 | | From: | Paul Braunbehrens | | Subject: | Re: Need a new boom! | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:49:42 -0800 |
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 | The triple clamp chinook is very nice, and will fit on a skinny or regular mast without any shims. I like it a lot.
I've never used carbon, following the philosophy that you won't miss what you don't know. I blow enough money on this sport as it is.
The triple clamp chinooks are also set up to make adjustable outhauls very easy to install.
In article <1106231037.235745.122810@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, fish wrote:
> Hola amigos... > I bent the crap out of my North boom on a nice balmy day last week... > and although I will probably replace the bent arm and continue using > it, I am thinking about replacing it too. I don't often bust aluminum > booms, I am pretty lightweight at 150lbs and they seem to typically > last 3-5yrs or so without becoming too floppy. So - eventhough I'd > love to go carbon, I probably won't do it cuz of cost. > I used to be happy with the Chinooks, but haven't used one of the new > ones with the new Triple Clamp boom head. What are they like? > The reason I like the North Progression Comps is the diameter - it is > right in between the chinook diameters which is perfect for me. The > narrow chinook just feels too small, but the big is too big. Other > than that, durability for the North is definitely worse than the > Chinooks from my experience. > Comments? Any big big votes for carbone? Any comments on the WH > Makai? Gulftechs (don't even know where to get them)? > I use skinnies almost exclusively. My sailing is all B&J and waves - > 6.0 - 3.5. This would be my small boom though, going down to 135 or > 140cm a must, doesn't have to cover the 6.0. > Thanks in advance for comments! > FISH >
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