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 | | From: | Kip Ross | | Subject: | Snyder gets the hell outta SF Land | | Date: | Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:58:06 -0500 |
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 | Browsing the net, I found a rather interesting bit of info on Screamscape.
Apparently, Daniel Snyder is going to sell off his SF shares. And, on his way out the door, he wrote a scathing letter about the Six Flags company. Here is a snippet of the letter:
“Continued to bet the future of the company on its misplaced capital expenditure plan, an overly expensive advertising campaign and a flawed guest service enhancement program.” “the non-management directors are continuing to protect an underperforming management team and encouraging the status quo at the very time when strong and decisive leadership is necessary to reverse the negative trend at Six Flags.” “Blaming the company's poor performance on the weather and the economy cannot last forever.” “In light of what we believe will be a disappointing future for the Company, we have determined that continued investment in the Company is not in our best interest and that our capital and other resources should be allocated to more promising investments, especially those that have a board and management team that truly understands what it means to be responsive to shareholder concerns.”
I would love to see the entire letter.
-kip-
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 | | From: | steelforce at aol.come2Mypark (Sam Marks) | | Subject: | Re: Snyder gets the hell outta SF Land | | Date: | 18 Jan 2005 19:45:15 GMT |
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 | >we have determined that continued investment in the Company >is not in our best interest and that our capital and other resources >should be allocated to more promising investments, especially those >that have a board and management team that truly understands what it >means to be responsive to shareholder concerns.” > GORSH!
He says nothing about the 4 million dollars they pocketed.
After all this time with no real progress, I was beginning to figure he'd collect the profit and jump ship.
I was hoping he'd push some change.....
oh well
NEXT!
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 | | From: | Mike Kallay | | Subject: | Re: Snyder gets the hell outta SF Land | | Date: | Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:17:56 -0800 |
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 | In article <20050118144515.13250.00000134@mb-m27.aol.com>, steelforce@aol.come2Mypark says... > He says nothing about the 4 million dollars they pocketed.
I don't know what kind of math you're using, but he bought at $5.50 and today's price is $4.93. That's a loss of almost $5 million dollars in 4 months, or ~ 10% loss on investment.
Fun with math:
He'll lose $4.8 million on his sale of Six Flags stock for the 4 months he's owned it. How does it stack up versus owning the other major park companies for the same period?
His initial investment: $44,825,000 (8.15 million shares of PKS)
Cedar Fair (FUN) $32.08 now vs. then $30 $44,825,000/$30 = 1,494,167 shares 1,494,167 shares * $2.08 profit/share = +$3,107,867
That is, he would have profited $3.1 million dollars in that same four months by holding Cedar Fair L.P. shares, or a 7% profit.
Walt Disney Company (DIS) $28.74 now vs. then $22.50 $44,825,000/$22.50 = 1,992,222 shares 1,992,222 shares * $6.24 profit/share = +$12,431,465
That is, he would have profited $12.4 million dollars holding Disney stock, or a 28% profit.
Wait until he stock sales goes through. Then, you'll see the stock plummet.
I wonder if he's not going to sell at all, rather, he's using the SEC filing to light a proverbial fire...
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mike kallay free coaster pr0n at www.ghostrider.org kallay@ghostrider.org
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 | | From: | hogfat | | Subject: | Re: Snyder gets the hell outta SF Land | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:24:56 GMT |
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 | "Mike Kallay" said:
> I don't know what kind of math you're using, but he bought at $5.50 and > today's price is $4.93. That's a loss of almost $5 million dollars in 4 > months, or ~ 10% loss on investment.
That's great, but where do you get the idea that he bought at $5.50? http://www.findprofit.com/archive/5328.html
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 | | From: | Shawn Mamros | | Subject: | Re: Snyder gets the hell outta SF Land | | Date: | 18 Jan 2005 19:45:28 GMT |
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 | Kip Ross wrote: >Browsing the net, I found a rather interesting bit of info on >Screamscape.
Did they cite any source(s)? Snyder's holdings are significant enough that their sale would have to be reported beforehand to the SEC, and I don't see any headlines to that effect yet. This could be a hoax...
-Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu
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 | | From: | Shawn Mamros | | Subject: | Re: Snyder gets the hell outta SF Land | | Date: | 18 Jan 2005 20:28:32 GMT |
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 | I asked: >Did they cite any source(s)? [...]
There's an Amusement Business article to that effect, dated Jan. 14 (available to everyone via amusementbusiness.com; click on "industry news").
Here's a link to the SEC filing itself, which includes the complete text of the letter. Apologies for the line wrap...
http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1301723/000091412105000119/re704458-13da_2.txt
-Shawn Mamros (yow...) E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu
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 | | From: | Paul Drabek | | Subject: | Re: Snyder gets the hell outta SF Land | | Date: | Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:32:50 -0600 |
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 | On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:58:06 -0500, Kip Ross wrote: Hey all,
I found this bit interesting:
"In light of what we believe will be a disappointing future for the Company, we have determined that continued investment in the Company is not in our best interest and that our capital and other resources should be allocated to more promising investments, especially those that have a board and management team that truly understands what it means to be responsive to shareholder concerns."
If Six Flags Board isn't careful they might end up with a shareholder revolt on their hands since it is their job to be responsive to the shareholders rather than management.
So shall we start a betting pool on how long Six Flags has until finally impoding? My money is on 3 years 5 months and 6 days from now.
Have Fun
Paul "Maybe CF will but them out for pennies on the dollar" Drabek
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 | | From: | steelforce at aol.come2Mypark (Sam Marks) | | Subject: | Re: Snyder gets the hell outta SF Land | | Date: | 20 Jan 2005 01:30:44 GMT |
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 | >I found this bit interesting: > >"In light of what we believe will be a disappointing future for the >Company, we have determined that continued investment in the Company >is not in our best interest and that our capital and other resources >should be allocated to more promising investments, especially those >that have a board and management team that truly understands what it >means to be responsive to shareholder concerns." > >If Six Flags Board isn't careful they might end up with a shareholder >revolt on their hands since it is their job to be responsive to the >shareholders rather than management. > >So shall we start a betting pool on how long Six Flags has until >finally impoding? My money is on 3 years 5 months and 6 days from >now.
How responsive would you be to a stock holder that JUST bought up 8% of your company and IMMEDIATELY began pushing you around? ..... I think I'd dismiss them
However the points in his adios letter should be taken to heart.
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 | | From: | Rastus O'Ginga | | Subject: | Re: Snyder gets the hell outta SF Land | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:45:03 -0600 |
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 | On 20 Jan 2005 01:30:44 GMT, steelforce@aol.come2Mypark (Sam Marks) wrote:
>How responsive would you be to a stock holder that JUST bought up 8% of your >company and IMMEDIATELY began pushing you around? ..... I think I'd dismiss >them > >However the points in his adios letter should be taken to heart.
It's just another theme park company controlled by a board that is all friends of the management, and they are all just throwing millions of dollars at each other. Fuckers like that are destroying plenty of companies in the country right now.
Damn near anyone in this newsgroup could run SF better than current management.
I'd gladly do it for one tenth of whatever the current CEO is getting paid.
Rastus O'Ginga
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 | | From: | Bartender Sam | | Subject: | Re: Snyder gets the hell outta SF Land | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:32:49 GMT |
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 | "Rastus O'Ginga" wrote in message news:053uu019ecltcr538dvlhk96ksne1if69s@4ax.com...
> > It's just another theme park company controlled by a board that is all > friends of the management, and they are all just throwing millions of > dollars at each other. Fuckers like that are destroying plenty of > companies in the country right now. > > Damn near anyone in this newsgroup could run SF better than current > management. > > I'd gladly do it for one tenth of whatever the current CEO is getting > paid.
Whats amazing and what no one seems to get that... "It's the rides stupid, but it is also the theming, security, and food." Thats the hallmark of all great Theme Parks. I would love to know what the Six Flags head people are drinking because I could use it Saturday night.
--- Yet another satisfied customer of Bartender Sam!
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