http://www.app.com/app/story/0,21625,1174941,00.html

"Riders will be launched hydraulically in a horizontal position at 128
mph and then climb the tower straight up. Brakes at the top will slow
riders, "so it gives you time to look around," Aristone said."

-kip-

From:	redlafrance at yahoo.com
Subject:	Re: Kingda Ka to have surprise feature
Date:	18 Jan 2005 08:17:37 -0800

The Township of Jackson, just put another $3 tax on parking at Great
Adventure. It probably will be $13

From:	CoasterFanatic
Subject:	Re: Kingda Ka to have surprise feature
Date:	18 Jan 2005 11:25:06 -0500

"redlafrance@yahoo.com" wrote in
news:1106065057.569049.148620@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

> The Township of Jackson, just put another $3 tax on parking at Great
> Adventure. It probably will be $13

I have always wondered if Jackson really exists. Never on the atlas, and
internet searches never find it.

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From:	HairComesJoe
Subject:	Re: Kingda Ka to have surprise feature
Date:	15 Jan 2005 08:05:30 GMT

i know that TTD doesnt do that. but i still have some questions. lol TTD goes
pretty slow over the top.. it doesn't stall, but sometimes it doesn't even make
it over the hill.. i've seen TTD reach 124 mph and not make it over the hill so
how are they going to improve kingda ka to show that it wont happen as often?
*shrug* i guess im just stupid. lol

From:	OrlandoMike4
Subject:	Re: Kingda Ka to have surprise feature
Date:	15 Jan 2005 12:52:56 GMT

If anything they will need an excelerator at the top to push the thing over.

From:	RKT INC
Subject:	Re: Kingda Ka to have surprise feature
Date:	15 Jan 2005 15:14:19 GMT

Maybe when the train isn't going fast enough the magnetic action of the brakes
will pull the train over. They will also slow the train down if going faster
then the speed set, to give the major hangtime SFGADv is aiming
for.............Is this at all possible?

From:	Ed Boxer
Subject:	Re: Kingda Ka to have surprise feature
Date:	22 Jan 2005 14:06:25 GMT

Yeah, the line will only be 3 hours instead of 4 with three ride ops running
the thing
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From:	Luke Skywalker
Subject:	Re: Kingda Ka to have surprise feature
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:49:04 GMT

Good don't go!

"Ed Boxer" wrote in message
news:20050122090625.09407.00000143@mb-m26.aol.com...
> Yeah, the line will only be 3 hours instead of 4 with three ride ops
running
> the thing
> Ed Boxer
>
> Check out my home page: http://www.geocities.com/~edboxer
> My LEGO Creations; A Guide to Opera on CD; Boxing; Drum and Bugle Corps;
Key
> West
>
>
>

From:	Art Todesco
Subject:	Re: Kingda Ka to have surprise feature
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 07:45:07 -0600

> a brake at the top might indicate that they plan to have the ride hit
> the very top at a considerably faster speed than TTD did, which would
> greatly reduse the rollback factor. the brake would re-establish the
> correct speed for the drop off the tower (My uneducated guess)
> SAM

OrlandoMike4 wrote:
> If anything they will need an excelerator at the top to push the thing over.

I think Sam said it right ... launch it hard and slow it down at the top
as needed. Slowing it down also prevents hugh airtime at the top from
launching the riders out of the train. I've always thought that TTD
would benefit from LIMs (I know, a big engineering thing) near the top.
They could be used to boost slower trains over the top or slow down a
too fast train. I think TTD was designed to "float" you over the top.
That's probably why sometimes it doesn't make it. It seems like on
every ride I've had on TTD, it seemed like 0Gs at the top, i.e. floating
over.

From:	Benoît De Groote
Subject:	Re: Kingda Ka to have surprise feature
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:09:03 GMT

The brake is located a few metres after the "top" though. So there will be
much more airtime if you launch if "too fast".

Benoît

"Art Todesco" schreef in bericht
news:T5ydnTiMN_v_g3TcRVn-rw@comcast.com...
> > a brake at the top might indicate that they plan to have the ride hit
> > the very top at a considerably faster speed than TTD did, which would
> > greatly reduse the rollback factor. the brake would re-establish the
> > correct speed for the drop off the tower (My uneducated guess)
> > SAM
>
> OrlandoMike4 wrote:
>> If anything they will need an excelerator at the top to push the thing
>> over.
>
> I think Sam said it right ... launch it hard and slow it down at the top
> as needed. Slowing it down also prevents hugh airtime at the top from
> launching the riders out of the train. I've always thought that TTD would
> benefit from LIMs (I know, a big engineering thing) near the top. They
> could be used to boost slower trains over the top or slow down a too fast
> train. I think TTD was designed to "float" you over the top. That's
> probably why sometimes it doesn't make it. It seems like on every ride
> I've had on TTD, it seemed like 0Gs at the top, i.e. floating over.
>

From:	steelforce at aol.come2Mypark (Sam Marks)
Subject:	Re: Kingda Ka to have surprise feature
Date:	15 Jan 2005 12:25:17 GMT

>i've seen TTD reach 124 mph and not make it over the hill so
>how are they going to improve kingda ka to show that it wont happen as often?
>
>*shrug* i guess im just stupid. lol

a braake at the top might indicate that they plan to have the ride hit the very
top at a considerably faster speed than TTD did, which would greatly reduse the
rollback factor. the brake would re-establish the correct speed for the drop
off the tower (My uneducated guess)
SAM

Member of
The Coaster Zombies Club
P.O. Box 12
Arlington,VA 22210-0012
www.coasterzombies.org

From:	Sseadoubleyou
Subject:	Re: Kingda Ka to have surprise feature
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:03:08 -0500

Haha, I liked that comment they made at the end about the coaster "flipping
the bird" to you know who:) Very cool!

"Sam Marks" wrote in message
news:20050115072517.14195.00000027@mb-m10.aol.com...
> >i've seen TTD reach 124 mph and not make it over the hill so
>>how are they going to improve kingda ka to show that it wont happen as
>>often?
>>
>>*shrug* i guess im just stupid. lol
>
> a braake at the top might indicate that they plan to have the ride hit the
> very
> top at a considerably faster speed than TTD did, which would greatly
> reduse the
> rollback factor. the brake would re-establish the correct speed for the
> drop
> off the tower (My uneducated guess)
> SAM
>
> Member of
> The Coaster Zombies Club
> P.O. Box 12
> Arlington,VA 22210-0012
> www.coasterzombies.org

From:	steelforce at aol.come2Mypark (Sam Marks)
Subject:	Re: Kingda Ka to have surprise feature
Date:	16 Jan 2005 01:23:56 GMT

>Haha, I liked that comment they made at the end about the coaster "flipping
>the bird" to you know who:) Very cool!

i'm sure that's the image Six Flags is really trying to convey.

From:	Kip Ross
Subject:	Re: Kingda Ka to have surprise feature
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:35:32 -0500

On 16 Jan 2005 01:23:56 GMT, steelforce@aol.come2Mypark (Sam Marks)
wrote:

>>Haha, I liked that comment they made at the end about the coaster "flipping
>>the bird" to you know who:) Very cool!
>
>i'm sure that's the image Six Flags is really trying to convey.

Sorta fits though, no? You pay like $13 for parking, then you turn
your head and see a giant middle finger pointed at you.

That's so awesome!

-kip-

From:	Mark Rosenzweig
Subject:	Re: Kingda Ka to have surprise feature
Date:	16 Jan 2005 17:31:17 -0800

Sam Marks wrote:
> $13? it's $10 silly!

Or 7.41 Euro. Or, park down the street at the outlet mall and walk 3
miles. Or, drive in the exit off of 537 and wing it into the parking
lot before Smokey the Security Guard can catch you and grab your funds.
Of course Smokey is a Berkowitz- probably with a cousin lawyer.
-Mark

From:	steelforce at aol.come2Mypark (Sam Marks)
Subject:	Re: Kingda Ka to have surprise feature
Date:	16 Jan 2005 02:53:24 GMT

$13? it's $10 silly!

From:	Coastin Steve
Subject:	Re: Kingda Ka to have surprise feature
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:18:30 -0500

Sam Marks wrote;

a brake at the top might indicate that they plan to have the ride hit
the very top at a considerably faster speed than TTD did, which would
greatly reduse the rollback factor. the brake would re-establish the
correct speed for the drop off the tower (My uneducated guess)
SAM
********************************rrc
While it was an uneducated guess Sam was exactly right. At the topping
off the other day I had a chance to be part of a conversation about that
brake w/ the SF engineer. He also said that the only car to have the
corresponding brake parts will be the last one on each train.
Thus the whole train will have crossed the highest point at it's
"natural" speed before the brake checks the speed for the start of the
return plunge.
Higher speed across the top and less chance of rollbacks than TTD.
Sounds like a good thing to me. 8-)

Coastin Steve

ps the public relations ladies at GrAdv had the engineer explain it to
us because she knew we coaster enthusiasts don't like brakes

http://community.webtv.net/Coastin_Steve/CoastinStevesHome

From:	MF310ryb
Subject:	Re: Kingda Ka to have surprise feature
Date:	15 Jan 2005 20:08:09 GMT

the brake is on the down side so the train will be going over at the point its
not at the crest almost like the brake on the dive machine u will look around
and straight down