BRAG-ALERT! you don't have to read the first shit.
Today I have had a good numbers day, I did 13 catches in both the synch
and asynch 6 ball fountain and tied my 7 ball record (8 catches, but today
I did it with 9 throws).

I was just wondering when the asynch fountain becomes easier than the
synch fountain?

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From:	_daniel_
Subject:	Re: When does 6 overtake (6,6)?
Date:	23 Jan 2005 21:49:19 GMT

erik_jernqvist wrote:
> BRAG-ALERT! you don't have to read the first shit.
> Today I have had a good numbers day, I did 13 catches in both the synch
> and asynch 6 ball fountain and tied my 7 ball record (8 catches, but today
> I did it with 9 throws).
>
> I was just wondering when the asynch fountain becomes easier than the
> synch fountain?

For me it was around the 20~30 catch mark.
Although I pretty much stopped using the synch pattern once my asynch got
to about 50 catches.

I never used to use the synch crossing pattern (wimpy), but had a go at it
last week and got some good runs up to 180 catches. I tried to get the
same with asynch and the best I could manage was 138.

So for me, wimpy has overtaken asynch fountain at around the 120 catch
mark...

I guess it all comes down to which pattern you practise the most.

e.g. I rarely practise the half shower (75) and can usually only get 50
catches on a good run, however I get the feeling that if I practise it
more, it will overtake the asynch pattern too.

Daniel

Daniel

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From:	Lando
Subject:	Re: When does 6 overtake (6,6)?
Date:	22 Jan 2005 19:58:01 GMT

erik_jernqvist wrote:
> BRAG-ALERT! you don't have to read the first shit.
> Today I have had a good numbers day, I did 13 catches in both the synch
> and asynch 6 ball fountain and tied my 7 ball record (8 catches, but today
> I did it with 9 throws).
>
> I was just wondering when the asynch fountain becomes easier than the
> synch fountain?
>
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You are just ahead of me, started working on six three weeks ago and have
done 9 catches so far, but for me sync is just as hard as async (9c is
with async). So far I have mostly practiced tree in one hand, my left hand
is horrible, but does anyone have any other tips on how to practice six
balls?
Problem is that my hands (or the left one, mostly) seems to be aiming for
columns, but I want to do fountain. Anyone know how to help this?

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From:	Mutton
Subject:	Re: When does 6 overtake (6,6)?
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:31:08 -0500

Lando wrote:
> erik_jernqvist wrote:
>
>>BRAG-ALERT! you don't have to read the first shit.
>>Today I have had a good numbers day, I did 13 catches in both the synch
>>and asynch 6 ball fountain and tied my 7 ball record (8 catches, but today
>>I did it with 9 throws).
>>
>>I was just wondering when the asynch fountain becomes easier than the
>>synch fountain?
>>
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>
>
>
> You are just ahead of me, started working on six three weeks ago and have
> done 9 catches so far, but for me sync is just as hard as async (9c is
> with async). So far I have mostly practiced tree in one hand, my left hand
> is horrible, but does anyone have any other tips on how to practice six
> balls?
> Problem is that my hands (or the left one, mostly) seems to be aiming for
> columns, but I want to do fountain. Anyone know how to help this?

It must be hard juggling trees in one hand. HAHAHAHAHA

- Andrew

From:	Ronnie Tarver
Subject:	Re: When does 6 overtake (6,6)?
Date:	23 Jan 2005 13:50:53 GMT

Lando wrote:
> erik_jernqvist wrote:
> > BRAG-ALERT! you don't have to read the first shit.
> > Today I have had a good numbers day, I did 13 catches in both the synch
> > and asynch 6 ball fountain and tied my 7 ball record (8 catches, but today
> > I did it with 9 throws).
> >
> > I was just wondering when the asynch fountain becomes easier than the
> > synch fountain?
> >
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>
>
> You are just ahead of me, started working on six three weeks ago and have
> done 9 catches so far, but for me sync is just as hard as async (9c is
> with async). So far I have mostly practiced tree in one hand, my left hand
> is horrible, but does anyone have any other tips on how to practice six
> balls?
> Problem is that my hands (or the left one, mostly) seems to be aiming for
> columns, but I want to do fountain. Anyone know how to help this?
>
>
>
>
>
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well, when there is a problem with my technique... like my 4 clubs used to
be OUT OF control, and my 5 balls used to make me wanna rotate my body...
what i did was, for the clubs, i just did 100 flashes, not in a row but i
did 100 flashes b4 i moved on. same w/ the 5 balls, i spent half an hour
just flashing them.

when correcting a mistake in my form, i approach it as if i'm learning a
new trick, or a new number. which is not only perfecting the flash or the
most primitive form of the trick with one object, but to reinforce the
perfection.
it's one thing to be able to a perfec flash 5 balls 10x's in a row and
moving on to 7 catches than it is to continue flashing 5 balls and
reinforcing the perfection.

six is a lil tricky though, cuz the key to it is the scoop, so when u
flash, throw the first four, and focus on making your last two throws
scoop. on any number i'm flashing, i focus on getting all but two objects
out of my hands and making the last two throws just as if i was going to
run the pattern. i bring my hands to the starting position of each throw
(on the outside of my body) and time the releases to make two throws timed
with the two catches. i do not just focus on six good throws, but rather 4
starter throws and 2 good ones.

after my first six ball flash, i worked on the flash for a few minutes
during the week. by the end of the week, my flash was about.. 2/3.. so
then i spent one hour purely on flashing--by the end of the hour i
qualified 6 balls twice in a row and stopped.

work in hours or by hundreds. spend one hour on the most basic form of one
thing so that you spend one hour getting better at the root of the trick
itself and instead of attempting to run six for an hour, sure, u got more
catches, but u got more catches with the same mistakes that will
ultimately make ur skills peak at a lower level than if they didn't exist.
not only did u perform these mistakes, but u spent an hour reinforcing and
perfecting them.
dont do that
when u flash, keep ur elbows tucked, head up, palms out, feet square, etc.
practice perfection

when you juggle, you tend to make the type of throw that is naturally the
easiest for your hand to do when ur brain says "throw". ur brain tells ur
left hand to throw, so it does.. in columns.. because that's the way your
hand naturally moves.
practice perfection until perfection is the natural movement of your hands.
so next time your brain tells ur left to throw, it will throw a perfect
fountain, again, and again.

so flash with perfect fountain form any ridiculous amount of times--you
may see your runs doubled within the next two days.

cya

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From:	erik_jernqvist
Subject:	Re: When does 6 overtake (6,6)?
Date:	22 Jan 2005 22:59:05 GMT

Lando wrote:
> You are just ahead of me, started working on six three weeks ago and have
> done 9 catches so far, but for me sync is just as hard as async (9c is
> with async). So far I have mostly practiced tree in one hand, my left hand
> is horrible, but does anyone have any other tips on how to practice six
> balls?
> Problem is that my hands (or the left one, mostly) seems to be aiming for
> columns, but I want to do fountain. Anyone know how to help this?

9 catches? Well that was a while ago. Recently I haven't worked some much
on 6. A little bit with 3 in my left (and bad hand) and 8 catches and
throws with six (balls, not beanbags, to solidify my pattern). When I try
to run 6, I visulize two points (the peaking points) and just try to throw
the balls up there and adding much scoop. With 7, a throw them up and hope
for the best.

Hope that helps (although it probably doesn't)

Erik

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From:	Marcel van der Holst
Subject:	Re: When does 6 overtake (6,6)?
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:32:04 -0800

I started practicing 6 a while ago, and have the same problem with the
left hand. Besides practicing 3 in a hand, I do a lot of 4 and 5 ball
siteswaps with 6. For instance, the 4 ball siteswaps 61616, and 63614
and the 5 ball siteswap 66661 helped quite a lot.

The biggest problem that I have at the moment is that I'm not bringing
the balls back to the middle far enough after I catch them. The result
is that the pattern gets wider and wider, and either the pattern
collapses or I get a collision.

Another thing to try is out is vary the heights. I was able to get more
catches (about 20 at the moment with 6 balls) by throwing the balls a
little bit higher. Again, if you go to high, you need more accuracy,
else the pattern will fall apart as well. Play with the heights and see
what is the most comfortable.

Marcel

Lando wrote:
> erik_jernqvist wrote:
>
>>BRAG-ALERT! you don't have to read the first shit.
>>Today I have had a good numbers day, I did 13 catches in both the synch
>>and asynch 6 ball fountain and tied my 7 ball record (8 catches, but today
>>I did it with 9 throws).
>>
>>I was just wondering when the asynch fountain becomes easier than the
>>synch fountain?
>>
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>
>
>
> You are just ahead of me, started working on six three weeks ago and have
> done 9 catches so far, but for me sync is just as hard as async (9c is
> with async). So far I have mostly practiced tree in one hand, my left hand
> is horrible, but does anyone have any other tips on how to practice six
> balls?
> Problem is that my hands (or the left one, mostly) seems to be aiming for
> columns, but I want to do fountain. Anyone know how to help this?
>
>
>
>
>
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>

From:	owenjonesuk
Subject:	Re: When does 6 overtake (6,6)?
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:58:15 +0000

Lando wrote:

>
> You are just ahead of me, started working on six three weeks ago and have
> done 9 catches so far, but for me sync is just as hard as async (9c is
> with async). So far I have mostly practiced tree in one hand, my left hand
> is horrible, but does anyone have any other tips on how to practice six
> balls?
> Problem is that my hands (or the left one, mostly) seems to be aiming for
> columns, but I want to do fountain. Anyone know how to help this?

I think everyone has the same problem. Scooping is a hard skill to pick
up. My advice is to keep on working at 3 in your left hand, but also
start trying some other tricks that involve scooping. 4 balls is the
obvious choice, so maybe all the tricks around 642, i.e. try to get
rounds of (6,4)(2,4) in 4 ball sync fountain, then do it more often,
then try rounds of 642 in async fountain, and build up to 642. Another
good thing to try are a lot of the 4 ball sync siteswaps that some nice
guy posted here a month or two ago.

Good luck,
Owen

From:	Eccles
Subject:	Re: When does 6 overtake (6,6)?
Date:	22 Jan 2005 20:25:36 GMT

erik_jernqvist wrote:
> BRAG-ALERT! you don't have to read the first shit.
> Today I have had a good numbers day, I did 13 catches in both the synch
> and asynch 6 ball fountain and tied my 7 ball record (8 catches, but today
> I did it with 9 throws).
>
> I was just wondering when the asynch fountain becomes easier than the
> synch fountain?
>
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Hi,

For me asynch took over synch as being easier at about 14 catches. I say
this because when i first started working on 6 I was matching my records
with asynch and synch, but kind of found synch easier. Now my record with
asynch is 22 cathces, and my record with synch stays at 14, because I have
stopped really doing synch, because now I find asynch much easier.

Obviuosly I'm sure it's different for everyone, but by those numbers you
are very close to that target.

HTH

JS

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From:	Little Paul
Subject:	Re: When does 6 overtake (6,6)?
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:14:45 +0000 (UTC)

On 2005-01-22, erik_jernqvist wrote:
>
> I was just wondering when the asynch fountain becomes easier than the
> synch fountain?

After precicely 82 hours, 14 minutes and 10 seconds of practice time.

-Paul

From:	staticjuggler
Subject:	Re: When does 6 overtake (6,6)?
Date:	22 Jan 2005 18:49:24 GMT

peachy. async fountain is easier for me.

Static

www.staticjuggler.com

erik_jernqvist wrote:
> BRAG-ALERT! you don't have to read the first shit.
> Today I have had a good numbers day, I did 13 catches in both the synch
> and asynch 6 ball fountain and tied my 7 ball record (8 catches, but today
> I did it with 9 throws).
>
> I was just wondering when the asynch fountain becomes easier than the
> synch fountain?
>
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