I am learning to juggle 5 and am currently using some crappy 80g beanbags
I made. I want to get some nice looking balls that are not too heavy and
not too big but look good. I've been looking at renegade filled stage and
Beard DX balls. What would be the best choice for me? I've been juggling
for almost a year now and can do four balls for 114 catches and five for
about 12 catches.
Any suggestions about ball sizes, weight or type?

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From:	staticjuggler
Subject:	Re: best balls for five ball juggling
Date:	19 Jan 2005 02:21:11 GMT

Hey,

If money isn't a factor, by all means choose Fergies ( www.fergieprops.com
), as they
are the supreme ruler of all juggling balls.

I've never used DX Balls, but I think filled stage wouldn't be good
because one tiny
collision could ruin your whole pattern, whereas Fergies (well, any
beanbag really) can
easily fix a pattern if they collide.

Also, beanbags don't roll all around when you drop them.

Hope I helped,

Static

leostef wrote:
> I am learning to juggle 5 and am currently using some crappy 80g beanbags
> I made. I want to get some nice looking balls that are not too heavy and
> not too big but look good. I've been looking at renegade filled stage and
> Beard DX balls. What would be the best choice for me? I've been juggling
> for almost a year now and can do four balls for 114 catches and five for
> about 12 catches.
> Any suggestions about ball sizes, weight or type?
>
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From:	leostef
Subject:	Re: best balls for five ball juggling
Date:	19 Jan 2005 02:33:06 GMT

staticjuggler wrote:
> Hey,
>
> If money isn't a factor, by all means choose Fergies ( www.fergieprops.com
> ), as they
> are the supreme ruler of all juggling balls.

Well, money is always a factur, but how much would a set of 5 Fergies cost
me?
>
> I've never used DX Balls, but I think filled stage wouldn't be good
> because one tiny
> collision could ruin your whole pattern
>
Wouldn't that just help improve my pattern in a way? Or maybe it would be
too frustrating...

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From:	captainalan
Subject:	Re: best balls for five ball juggling
Date:	19 Jan 2005 02:56:05 GMT

If ye are using some 80gram bean bags, even though i'm not that good I
would suggest using Todd Smith small sized bean bags. They're i think 2"
but i'll have to double check. www.toddsmith.com They're available in
lots of color combos and stuff so they'll definetly look cool. Mine are
all silver and can give me long happy 4 ball runs and are serving me well
on learning 5, although i don't always use them for 5, and work with ones
that are harder to do, so when I pick them up I can juggle them for a long
time =-D Well anyways that's for bean bags. For Balls, dube stage balls
are pretty cool,
but all the advanced people mimght throw things at me and call me a n00b.
Good luck...

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From:	carjug
Subject:	Re: best balls for five ball juggling
Date:	19 Jan 2005 21:47:44 GMT

I wouldn't rush out to buy juggling balls, I would go to the birdseed
store and get a bag of millet to fill up some tennis balls. Do it, you
will be very happy with them. A small razor slice in the balls is self
sealing. Use a little glue anyway.
I learned to juggle five balls with lacrosse balls, not a good idea. I
spent more time chasing the slippery things down the hill than I care to
admit. DX balls, beanbags, and the homemade balls I just recommended do
not bounce down hills or off of each other. You will waste less wonderful
juggling time if you get some good equipment.
If you must spend some money, I think that Dube makes a nice beanbag. I
like the 2+5/8 inch size. I have never owned a set of DX balls, but I want
to make some from some rubber street hockey balls and plastic beads.
carjug

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From:	staticjuggler
Subject:	Re: best balls for five ball juggling
Date:	20 Jan 2005 00:18:43 GMT

Hey,

It depends on the size. The bigger they are, the more they cost. I bought
7 fergies once,
2.5", and they were $10 each. Email Fergie and he will automatically send
you an email
with pricing details and information.

Static

leostef wrote:
> staticjuggler wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > If money isn't a factor, by all means choose Fergies ( www.fergieprops.com
> > ), as they
> > are the supreme ruler of all juggling balls.
>
> Well, money is always a factur, but how much would a set of 5 Fergies cost
> me?
> >
> > I've never used DX Balls, but I think filled stage wouldn't be good
> > because one tiny
> > collision could ruin your whole pattern
> >
> Wouldn't that just help improve my pattern in a way? Or maybe it would be
> too frustrating...
>
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From:	Stephen Brain
Subject:	Re: best balls for five ball juggling
Date:	20 Jan 2005 00:35:51 GMT

DX balls aren't quite filled stage balls, they are more of a solid bean
bag. They are absolutely wonderful for juggling. They do not ruin the
pattern if they collide any more than beanbags do, and they look much more
proffessional. I have tried just about every type of ball, and DXs are by
far my favorite. I aquired mine from Passe Passe at the WJF, and they can
take a serious beating; as durable as lacrosse balls. I would highly
suggest these to anyone even remotely interested in getting a great set of
long-term juggling balls. They don't balance(stall) as well as beanbags,
but are still very gentle on the hands. The solidity of the balls gives a
much more consistent throw, and they are easy to catch. DXs are the best.
staticjuggler wrote:
> Hey,
>
> If money isn't a factor, by all means choose Fergies ( www.fergieprops.com
> ), as they
> are the supreme ruler of all juggling balls.
>
> I've never used DX Balls, but I think filled stage wouldn't be good
> because one tiny
> collision could ruin your whole pattern, whereas Fergies (well, any
> beanbag really) can
> easily fix a pattern if they collide.
>
> Also, beanbags don't roll all around when you drop them.
>
> Hope I helped,
>
> Static
>
> leostef wrote:
> > I am learning to juggle 5 and am currently using some crappy 80g beanbags
> > I made. I want to get some nice looking balls that are not too heavy and
> > not too big but look good. I've been looking at renegade filled stage and
> > Beard DX balls. What would be the best choice for me? I've been juggling
> > for almost a year now and can do four balls for 114 catches and five for
> > about 12 catches.
> > Any suggestions about ball sizes, weight or type?
> >
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>
>
>
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From:	Mutton
Subject:	Re: best balls for five ball juggling
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:59:59 -0500

Stephen Brain wrote:
> DX balls aren't quite filled stage balls, they are more of a solid bean
> bag. They are absolutely wonderful for juggling. They do not ruin the
> pattern if they collide any more than beanbags do, and they look much more
> proffessional. I have tried just about every type of ball, and DXs are by
> far my favorite. I aquired mine from Passe Passe at the WJF, and they can
> take a serious beating; as durable as lacrosse balls. I would highly
> suggest these to anyone even remotely interested in getting a great set of
> long-term juggling balls. They don't balance(stall) as well as beanbags,
> but are still very gentle on the hands. The solidity of the balls gives a
> much more consistent throw, and they are easy to catch. DXs are the best.

I have to agree for the most part - I just got my DX balls and I love
them. They are excellent juggling props. However, I have to disagree
about them being collision free like beanbags. When they hit eachother
they bounce and go flying. Maybe mine aren't totally broken in yet and
that problem will go away, I'm not sure.

Since you are only at 12 or so catches with five, I'd say learning would
be best with some nice beanbags. I like Todd Smith's. You can get
their beanbag 2nds that have some random corporate logo on them for only
$5.00 a piece. I've heard Fergies are great but I've never used them
personally, plus you pay a premium for the quality.

- Andrew

From:	leostef
Subject:	Re: best balls for five ball juggling
Date:	20 Jan 2005 18:00:03 GMT

I think I'm getting DX balls, but what is the difference between a regular
Beard DX ball and a DX dream? Wich ones should I get?

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From:	Little Paul
Subject:	Re: best balls for five ball juggling
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:34:18 +0000 (UTC)

On 2005-01-20, leostef wrote:
> I think I'm getting DX balls, but what is the difference between a regular
> Beard DX ball and a DX dream? Wich ones should I get?

according to www.beard.co.uk...

"Dx Chroma Dream ... Suede effect finish, like peach skin" ie, they have
a marginally softer, more matt finish than the otherwise smooth and slippery
DX

For more info on the whole range of DX balls, have a look at
http://www.beard.co.uk/cgi-bin/catalogue.cgi?choice=browse;cat=Balls;sub_cat=DX

-Paul

From:	leostef
Subject:	Re: best balls for five ball juggling
Date:	19 Jan 2005 03:39:55 GMT

I am also thinking of getting a set of four clubs to learn four club
juggling. What clubs would be best for that? I have a set of three mr.
babache and am fairly good with three. I can to continous doubles and
three up pirouettes. I was thinking about Todd Smith Europeans, but I
really haven't tried any other clubs so I don't know what clubs would be
best for me. There is no juggling club near me so I can't go to a club
and try out other peoples equipment.

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From:	Adam
Subject:	Re: best balls for five ball juggling
Date:	18 Jan 2005 19:19:39 -0800

A filled stage ball is a DX ball. Medium DX balls from
seriousjuggling.com would be my choice if I was learning 5 again. You
can't go wrong with a regular sized beanbag, either. Whatever you get,
get either white or a very bright color so you and others can see them
well.

Dube stage balls would be horrible for learning 5.

Adam

From:	Jon Solberg
Subject:	Re: best balls for five ball juggling
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:20:15 +0100

Adam wrote:

> Dube stage balls would be horrible for learning 5.

That depends on what you mean by 'horrible'. It would by no doubt be
horribly frustrating to learn five with stage balls, but once you
mastered it, your pattern will be much cleaner than if you used bean
bags. The error margin is that much smaller with stage balls (you can't
be that sloppy with your technique).

The same should be applicable for one piece Americans compared to
smaller composite clubs.

Anyway, the OP is probably much better off with a bean bag or DX ball.

/Jon

From:	jugglerguy
Subject:	Re: best balls for five ball juggling
Date:	20 Jan 2005 00:39:44 GMT

Beard DX balls and Renegade filled stage balls are exactly the same thing.
Buy them from Renegade
though. They're a good company in my experience. I recently had a very
bad experience with another
large internet juggling vender that claims to carry DX balls, but in
reality doesn't have any.

I have both DX balls and Fergie bags. I like both, although I juggle only
the Fergies inside my house
because they're easier on the furniture. I think Fergie bags are probably
cheaper than DX balls, but
you'd have to email Mike to find out his current prices. Here's his web
site: http://
www.fergieprops.com/ . Now that I'm thinking about it, I like my Fergies
the best. I do not like Dube
stage balls. I have 9 of them, and they're ok, but really hard. Dube
silicones are great, but not for
learning five.

Rob

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From:	gantenbein
Subject:	Re: best balls for five ball juggling
Date:	19 Jan 2005 06:40:15 GMT

I'm using Beard DX Dream 68mm (in red) for learning 5, at least when I
practice indoors (outside I prefer lacrosse balls). I'm quite happy with
them. They look good, they feel good and collisions are not disastrous
either, because they don't bounce. I personally prefer balls to beanbags,
and the DX come closest to a real ball, without breaking everything in my
living room.
I've also tried DX 62mm, but for my taste they are a little to light and
the 68mm are fine for releasing and catching 3 in one hand anyway. For
four in one hand they would be borderline (depending on the size of your
hands of course).

HTH

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