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 | | From: | Nicholas Kutozov | | Subject: | Badges used as banners | | Date: | 10 Jan 2005 08:44:15 -0800 |
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 | I realise of course that in England an armiger can more or less do as
he pleases without incurring the wroth of the College of Arms but if
said to you that I had seen a banner on the site of The Heraldry
Society and I blazoned it as follows:
Per pale Vert and Gulles, A maunch Ermine issuing therefrom a dexter
hand proper holding a human heart of the second.
I should imagine that you would expect the Achievement of the Armiger
to be as described in the blazon. If this is so, how then can an
artist enblazon the arms of Stephen Slater
http://www.theheraldrysociety.com/resources/stephenslater.htm
in the way he has, showing the badge as a banner?
Any thoughts or am I missing something?
Nicholas Kutozov
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| | From: | pritchard_da at hotmail.com | | Subject: | Re: Badges used as banners | | Date: | 10 Jan 2005 19:31:39 -0800 |
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| Dear Nicholas,
The ensign that you are describing is not an armorial banner but a
badge banner. Very few badge banners have been granted over the past
four hundred years as they fell out of fashion after the Tudor period.
The badge banner partial replaced the standard in England during the
War of the Roses and gained in popularity through the 16th century.
As far as I know, Stephen Slater's badge banner granted by the College
of Arms and my own badge banner registered by the Bureau of Heraldry
two years ago, are the only modern grants of this type of flag.
Information on this type of flag can be found in Robert Gayre's book
"Heraldic Standards and other Ensigns", Colin Campbell's "Medieval
Flags" as well as in Alfred Znamierowski's "The World Encyclopedia of
Flags".
I would blazon Mr. Slater's badge banner as follows:
"On a square banner parted per pale Vert and Gules, from a maunch
Ermine, a right hand Proper (or Carnation), holding a heart Gules. The
banner fringed of the liveries alternating Or and Sable"
Best wishes to all,
David Pritchard
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| | From: | Darren George | | Subject: | Re: Badges used as banners | | Date: | Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:39:37 -0800 |
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| On 10 Jan 2005 08:44:15 -0800, heraldicum@mail.ru (Nicholas Kutozov)
wrote:
>I should imagine that you would expect the Achievement of the Armiger
>to be as described in the blazon. If this is so, how then can an
>artist enblazon the arms of Stephen Slater
>http://www.theheraldrysociety.com/resources/stephenslater.htm
>in the way he has, showing the badge as a banner?
I believe that's what the man uses as his banner- he has illustrated
in either his dictionary or his "Basic Heraldry"- I don't have either
on hand at the moment.
---The Mad Alchemist---
http://www.mad-alchemy.com
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