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 | | From: | JJ | | Subject: | Comet's new pads... | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:55:33 GMT |
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 | Hi all,
Well, had to post - don't know why really. Just like to share the boring details of my life...
First off, the pads aren't quite what I was expecting but that's not a big deal. I'm not totally sure what I was expecting. They seem to be OK and Comet seems to be unaware of them for the most part. Sure makes those front feet nicer to keep clean. However, I'm not sure the farrier got the "goop" fully in the left foot. She had quite a bit ooze back out when we put her in her stall and the next day, I could feel an "air-space" under that one pad. Farrier is coming back today to work on some ponies and said he'd check her feet again to make sure they were fully filled. He used silicone on her so, we'll see how that works.
Regarding the substitute farrier, he's very nice and was pretty much at the barn close to when he said he'd be. Always a nice thing. But he's not as skilled as my old farrier and I really had to take deep breaths while watching him work. He was great with Comet. Kind and handled himself around her wonderfully. Of course, she's very well behaved and just stands there but still. I liked his demeanor around her. This is important to me. My regular farrier had an apprentice for a couple of years and I really just didn't like the apprentice. It's hard to place my finger on...but, he didn't last either. Apparently, I'm not the only one that felt that way and there were a couple of complaints by other customers. The apprentice left my farrier high and dry one day. Just called his mom (literally) for a ride home and left. Oh well...
Back to the sub, he had a devil of a time with some of his nails. Pulling them out over and over again (6+ times - I stopped counting) to get them right where he wanted. I appreciate the attention to detail, just hope that he gets a better feel for this. He said he's been doing this for seven years and was just "certified" two years ago. I don't know what that means really. I mean where he got certified. Most of his time, however, he has been as an apprentice under another farrier, whom I know. Mostly working on ponies that don't need shoes and just helping the main farrier out. He's just now "putting his own truck out" (to use his phrase) but still helps the other farrier in the mean time, while he builds up his own clientele. He'll do OK if he can beef up his nailing skills. I'm NOT underestimating what an art and skill farriery is at all! I'm sure he'll get better with time.
Comet's feet look good though. They are even and the angles and such look like they should (to my untrained eye of course). His work is just not as "tight" as my regular farrier and I suspect I'd feel that way about any one "new" working on Comet. His "clinches" (is that right) are somewhat different from what I'm used to but the shoes are on and don't seem to be going anywhere - at least not yet. They are just not as "clean" as what I'm used to. I know that I'm pretty particular and this is the first time anyone else has done her feet since I've been with her...7+ years now. I'm spoiled as I really like my regular farrier. The sub was also able to do a reset with her shoes, which I'm grateful for. He was talking about making his own egg-bars if the shoes couldn't be reset...and I'm just glad he didn't have to do that on top of everything else.
So, overall, I think he did a good job. I'm looking forward, however, to having my ole farrier back next time. I'm concerned about "crud" getting up under the pad but hopefully, he'll make sure they are filled today when he looks at Comet's feet again.
So, that's the latest from JJ's and Comet's world. Hope you are all doing well out there! And staying warm. It's down right COLD here! Today will be a balmy 28 (maybe) and that's the only break we are getting. Right back down to barely double digits for the next few days and possibly, some more snow. Winter is here finally in PA. After a very slow start, it's making up for lost time I think...
Take care all, JJ
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 | | From: | warner1 at ix.netcom.com | | Subject: | Re: Comet's new pads... | | Date: | 20 Jan 2005 18:13:22 -0800 |
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 | JJ wrote: > Hi all, > > Well, had to post - don't know why really. Just like to share the boring > details of my life... > > First off, the pads aren't quite what I was expecting but that's not a big > deal. I'm not totally sure what I was expecting. They seem to be OK and > Comet seems to be unaware of them for the most part. Sure makes those front > feet nicer to keep clean. However, I'm not sure the farrier got the "goop" > fully in the left foot. She had quite a bit ooze back out when we put her > in her stall and the next day, I could feel an "air-space" under that one > pad. Farrier is coming back today to work on some ponies and said he'd > check her feet again to make sure they were fully filled. He used silicone > on her so, we'll see how that works. >
Hi JJ:
I enjoyed reading your post. :-) I am curious to hear about whether or not too much silicone oozed out of Comet's foot. Perhaps the farrier did not let the goop sufficiently dry before allowing weight on the hoof. After we chatted about that Equi-pad stuff, I looked it up on the web (again) and the directions say that it dries in 10 seconds... wrong!!!! Perhaps your sub farrier just read the directions and actually believed them (although one would think he would be experienced with the silicone and drying times).
Ruth W.
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 | | From: | JJ | | Subject: | Re: Comet's new pads... | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:21:07 GMT |
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 | wrote in message news:1106273602.578317.211000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Hi JJ:
Hi Ruth,
> I enjoyed reading your post. :-) I am curious to hear about whether > or not too much silicone oozed out of Comet's foot. Perhaps the > farrier did not let the goop sufficiently dry before allowing weight on > the hoof. After we chatted about that Equi-pad stuff, I looked it up > on the web (again) and the directions say that it dries in 10 > seconds... wrong!!!! Perhaps your sub farrier just read the directions > and actually believed them (although one would think he would be > experienced with the silicone and drying times).
The farrier did indeed put some more silicone up in the left hoof pad. I'm still a little leary but that's normal for me . I asked him during the inital shoeing if Comet needed to stand on the cement for a little while to make sure the silicone hardened up a bit. He said no so we put her back in her stall. As soon as she stepped in the stall (uneven bedding of course) a good bit oozed out. I also found some on her elbow the next day so more must have oozed out when she laid down for a roll or nap. It was freezing cold that day. I don't think we hit 20 all day. Perhaps that prevented it from setting up? I don't know.
He put more in yesterday and, while it was "damp" where I could see it on the back of her foot (I got to the barn a few minutes after he did it), I didn't see any oozing out. I rode her and then checked the back of her foot and it didn't look like any came out. She had bell-boots on to ride and there was none on the inside of the boot. So, I just have to hope that it's full enough to prevent any crud from getting up in there till next shoeing.
So, that's that for now. I put her out yesterday on some fresh snow and the pad worked so that's a treat! No more "high-heels" for Comet.
Take care, JJ
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 | | From: | Tom Stovall | | Subject: | Re: Comet's new pads... | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:10:23 -0600 |
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 | [attributes lost, deletia]
>>Farrier is coming back today to work on some ponies and said he'd >>check her feet again to make sure they were fully filled. He used >>silicone on her so, we'll see how that works.
Tell your farrier to go to the nearest auto supply and get himself some Bondo creme hardener (benzoyl peroxide) - and he'll need to score a few tongue depressors someplace.
Trim the foot, fit the shoe and pad, squeeze a gob of silicone on the sole, mix with a two-inch ribbon of creme hardener (amount is not critical) until the silicone is the same color as the hardener, scrape off the excess level with the ground surface of the foot, then nail on the shoe.
The foot can be dropped as soon as the shoe is nailed up and the silicone will not extrude when the horse loads the foot.
Better living through chemistry. -- Tom Stovall, CJF Farrier & Blacksmith stovall@REMOVEwt.net (remove REMOVE) http://www.katyforge.com
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 | | From: | JJ | | Subject: | Re: Comet's new pads... | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:23:07 GMT |
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 | "Tom Stovall" wrote in message news:41F08EBF.DDA1A5DE@REMOVEwt.net... > [attributes lost, deletia] > >>>Farrier is coming back today to work on some ponies and said he'd >>>check her feet again to make sure they were fully filled. He used >>>silicone on her so, we'll see how that works.
Hi Tom,
> Tell your farrier to go to the nearest auto supply and get himself some > Bondo creme hardener (benzoyl peroxide) - and he'll need to score a few > tongue depressors someplace. > > Trim the foot, fit the shoe and pad, squeeze a gob of silicone on the > sole, mix with a two-inch ribbon of creme hardener (amount is not > critical) until the silicone is the same color as the hardener, scrape > off the excess level with the ground surface of the foot, then nail on > the shoe. > > The foot can be dropped as soon as the shoe is nailed up and the > silicone will not extrude when the horse loads the foot.
Very cool. I have printed out your post and will give it to him when I see him again. Even if he doesn't work on Comet again, I'll see him around as he works on the ponies at the farm.
I'll ask my regular farrier how he does pads (he's done quite a few) and see what he says.
Thanks for the information! I really appreciate it.
> Better living through chemistry.
Yes, seems so.
> Tom Stovall, CJF > Farrier & Blacksmith > stovall@REMOVEwt.net (remove REMOVE) > http://www.katyforge.com
Take care, JJ
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 | | From: | law | | Subject: | Re: Comet's new pads... | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:01:13 GMT |
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 | Tom Stovall wrote:
> > Tell your farrier to go to the nearest auto supply and get himself some > Bondo creme hardener (benzoyl peroxide) - and he'll need to score a few > tongue depressors someplace.
Sally's Beauty Supply for the tongue depressors (although, from there, they ain't tongue depressors )
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 | | From: | warner1 at ix.netcom.com | | Subject: | Re: Comet's new pads... | | Date: | 21 Jan 2005 12:16:14 -0800 |
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 | Tom Stovall wrote: > [attributes lost, deletia] > > >>Farrier is coming back today to work on some ponies and said he'd > >>check her feet again to make sure they were fully filled. He used > >>silicone on her so, we'll see how that works. > > Tell your farrier to go to the nearest auto supply and get himself some > Bondo creme hardener (benzoyl peroxide) - and he'll need to score a few > tongue depressors someplace. > > Trim the foot, fit the shoe and pad, squeeze a gob of silicone on the > sole, mix with a two-inch ribbon of creme hardener (amount is not > critical) until the silicone is the same color as the hardener, scrape > off the excess level with the ground surface of the foot, then nail on > the shoe. > > The foot can be dropped as soon as the shoe is nailed up and the > silicone will not extrude when the horse loads the foot. > > Better living through chemistry. > -- > Tom Stovall, CJF > Farrier & Blacksmith > stovall@REMOVEwt.net (remove REMOVE) > http://www.katyforge.com I appreciate that information, too. Thanks Tom.
Ruth W.
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