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TAZ
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Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen
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Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen
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TAZ
 Re: opera properties - wrong display  
Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen
 Re: opera properties - wrong display  
TAZ
From:TAZ
Subject:opera properties - wrong display
Date:Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:56:03 +0100
I've made up my page
http://jacek.jackowski.net.pl/index.php?strona=usnet and I don't know
why I can't see it properly - I see it like this
http://jackowski.net.pl/opera.png - my signature is wrong displayed - I
was asking other people and they say I'd configured my opera wrong. How
to solve this problem - I set to use author's styles and I set minimum
font size 1 px but it still displays wrong. Someboty told me to
reinstall opera so I did, urpme opera and downloaded rpm from
http://www.opera.com/download/ i've also deleted my ~/.opera directory
before rpm -ivh. I don't know which option is set wrong because i see my
signature incorrect: http://jackowski.net.pl/opera.png
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From:Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen
Subject:Re: opera properties - wrong display
Date:Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:18:21 +0100
TAZ writes:

> I've made up my page
> http://jacek.jackowski.net.pl/index.php?strona=usnet and I don't know
> why I can't see it properly - I see it like this
> http://jackowski.net.pl/opera.png - my signature is wrong displayed - I
> was asking other people and they say I'd configured my opera wrong. How
> to solve this problem - I set to use author's styles and I set minimum
> font size 1 px but it still displays wrong. Someboty told me to
> reinstall opera so I did, urpme opera and downloaded rpm from
> http://www.opera.com/download/ i've also deleted my ~/.opera directory
> before rpm -ivh. I don't know which option is set wrong because i see my
> signature incorrect: http://jackowski.net.pl/opera.png


It seems to me that the lines making up the signature are noticeably
wider than the box they're within. The obvious solution is to specify
(e.g. through CSS) a smaller font for the signature part. However, in
general you cannot really know how much space text is going to take on
a user's screen, so there's really no clean, general solution that
will work.

I guess that what you're seeing is that the font you're using has a
wide design. There's nothing wrong with that. Another problem that
could happen would be if a user wasn't using a monospace font. Then
it would most likely look horrible in any case...

eirik
From:Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen
Subject:Re: opera properties - wrong display
Date:Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:00:53 +0100
TAZ writes:

> Dnia 2005-01-11 16:43 *Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen* napisał(a):
>> Yes, there is no way in HTML or CSS to specify the exact size of a
>> font. So there's nothing wrong with your opera using wider characters
>> than other people's opera.
>>
>> In the same way, there's nothing wrong with hitting ctrl-+ in mozilla
>> a couple of times (or from the menu: View->Text size->increase). That
>> should give you the same problem there.
>>
>> How have you specified the font?
>
> Yes font-size is specified in css - for signature it's 10 px and i've
> set opera to display minimum font size: 1px
>
>


Ok. Now the fact that you've set the font size to 10px means that the
"em square" of the font is 10 pixels high and wide. However, this
doesn't tell you much about how big the text is going to be, because:

1. These "10 pixels" are not necessarily 10 actual pixels on your
screen. There are several possible reasons for this, such as
opera's "zoom" or mozilla's "text size", as well as various other
reasons.

2. The "em square" does not correspond to any actual measurement of
the font. It is not the line height, it is not the base height, it
is not the height of the 'x' or the 'm' or any other character. It
is not the average width of the glyphs in the font, or the width of
the 'm' or any other character.


So there is, in fact, no way to specify the exact size of text.


eirik
From:TAZ
Subject:Re: opera properties - wrong display
Date:Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:32:59 +0100
Dnia 2005-01-11 16:18 *Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen* napisał(a):
> It seems to me that the lines making up the signature are noticeably
> wider than the box they're within. The obvious solution is to specify
> (e.g. through CSS) a smaller font for the signature part.

it's smaller - many people says taht in theirs opera it looks correctly
- it looks correctly also in my mozilla and in IE running under wine


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From:Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen
Subject:Re: opera properties - wrong display
Date:Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:43:05 +0100
TAZ writes:

> Dnia 2005-01-11 16:18 *Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen* napisał(a):
>> It seems to me that the lines making up the signature are noticeably
>> wider than the box they're within. The obvious solution is to specify
>> (e.g. through CSS) a smaller font for the signature part.
>
> it's smaller - many people says taht in theirs opera it looks correctly
> - it looks correctly also in my mozilla and in IE running under wine
>


Yes, there is no way in HTML or CSS to specify the exact size of a
font. So there's nothing wrong with your opera using wider characters
than other people's opera.

In the same way, there's nothing wrong with hitting ctrl-+ in mozilla
a couple of times (or from the menu: View->Text size->increase). That
should give you the same problem there.

How have you specified the font?

eirik
From:TAZ
Subject:Re: opera properties - wrong display
Date:Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:47:12 +0100
Dnia 2005-01-11 16:43 *Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen* napisał(a):
> Yes, there is no way in HTML or CSS to specify the exact size of a
> font. So there's nothing wrong with your opera using wider characters
> than other people's opera.
>
> In the same way, there's nothing wrong with hitting ctrl-+ in mozilla
> a couple of times (or from the menu: View->Text size->increase). That
> should give you the same problem there.
>
> How have you specified the font?

Yes font-size is specified in css - for signature it's 10 px and i've
set opera to display minimum font size: 1px


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