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Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux

Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux  
Charles Sullivan
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Thomas Orgis
 Re: Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux  
Jonathan A.
 Re: Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux  
ozz
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Christian Kirbach
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ozz
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Richard Kimber
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Bob Goddard
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Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen
 Re: Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux  
Charles Sullivan
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Charles Sullivan
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Tullio Chersi
 Re: Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux  
Charles Sullivan
From:Charles Sullivan
Subject:Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux
Date:Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:38:12 -0500
This is getting tiresome and I'm wondering why I continue
wasting time with Opera.

All I ask is the ability to print a webpage that bears some
resemblance to what I see on the screen. Opera hasn't done
that properly since the final 6.xx version.

I can't even get a decent printout of Opera's home page,
http://www.opera.com. All I get is some chopped up mess
with part of the text cut off and the panels on the right
side of the screen appearing on subsequent pages, if at all.

I'm currently running Opera 8.0b1 under Fedora Core 2,
(kernel 2.6.7-1.494.2.2) on a Pentium 4 i686 sytem, connected
to an HP 4000 LaserJet (Postscript 2) printer. Gnome 2.6.
QT 3.3.3-0.1

If there are some fonts or settings I need to tweak, please
enlighten me.

Regards,
Charles Sullivan (Registered user since Opera 4)
From:Thomas Orgis
Subject:Re: Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux
Date:Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:32:52 +0100
>
> Yeah, but everything since Opera 6.12 is Beta. :-)
>

Yep. Sadly, 6.12 has its issues, too...

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From:Jonathan A.
Subject:Re: Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux
Date:15 Jan 2005 13:14:56 GMT
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:32:52 +0100, Thomas Orgis
appears to have said:

>>
>> Yeah, but everything since Opera 6.12 is Beta. :-)
>>
>
> Yep. Sadly, 6.12 has its issues, too...

Just to chime in with my two cents, I have never, ever been able to
produce reliable printing results with any version of Opera for Linux.
I still try once in a while, when a new version comes out but, sadly,
when I want to print a web page, my preferred browser won't cut it, and
I must resort to Mozilla.

I dunno if it's an Opera issue or maybe a QT issue or what. I sure wish
it wasn't an issue at all. :(


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From:ozz
Subject:Re: Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux
Date:Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:55:53 +0200
On 15 Jan 2005 13:14:56 GMT, Jonathan A. wrote:

>> Yep. Sadly, 6.12 has its issues, too...
>
> Just to chime in with my two cents, I have never, ever been able to
> produce reliable printing results with any version of Opera for
> Linux.
> I still try once in a while, when a new version comes out but, sadly,
> when I want to print a web page, my preferred browser won't cut it,
> and
> I must resort to Mozilla.
>
> I dunno if it's an Opera issue or maybe a QT issue or what. I sure
> wish
> it wasn't an issue at all. :(

There isn't only QT problem. I'm running Opera also with Windows (same
version as I have in Linux -- 7.54u1) and getting same problem :(

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From:Christian Kirbach
Subject:Re: Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux
Date:Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:45:33 +0100
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:55:53 +0200, ozz wrote:

>> Just to chime in with my two cents, I have never, ever been able to
>> produce reliable printing results with any version of Opera for Linux.
Sad topic. Indeed. Some feel lucky with a 93% scale in the printing dialog.


> There isn't only QT problem. I'm running Opera also with Windows (same
> version as I have in Linux -- 7.54u1) and getting same problem :(
QT is cross-platform, Dude. It is QT on Mickysoft Windows as well.



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From:ozz
Subject:Re: Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux
Date:Mon, 17 Jan 2005 06:07:20 +0200
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:45:33 +0100, Christian Kirbach
wrote:

>> There isn't only QT problem. I'm running Opera also with Windows
>> (same version as I have in Linux -- 7.54u1) and getting same
>> problem :(

> QT is cross-platform, Dude. It is QT on Mickysoft Windows as well.
>
....if U have installed one ;) but I definitely not.

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From:Richard Kimber
Subject:Re: Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux
Date:Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:30:47 GMT
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:14:56 +0000, Jonathan A. wrote:

> I dunno if it's an Opera issue or maybe a QT issue or what. I sure wish
> it wasn't an issue at all. :(

I seem to remember reading somewhere that it was a QT problem.

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From:Bob Goddard
Subject:Re: Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux
Date:Sun, 09 Jan 2005 10:40:13 +0000
Charles Sullivan wrote:

> This is getting tiresome and I'm wondering why I continue
> wasting time with Opera.
[...]

Then stop running betas and stick with a version which works for you.


B
From:Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen
Subject:Re: Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux
Date:Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:45:13 +0100
ozz writes:

> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:45:33 +0100, Christian Kirbach
> wrote:
>
>>> There isn't only QT problem. I'm running Opera also with Windows
>>> (same version as I have in Linux -- 7.54u1) and getting same
>>> problem :(
>
>> QT is cross-platform, Dude. It is QT on Mickysoft Windows as well.
>>
> ...if U have installed one ;) but I definitely not.
>


Opera only uses Qt on unix. Some printing problems are in Qt, but
those will usually just cause opera to not print anything at all.
Most of the layout problems are in opera...

eirik
From:Charles Sullivan
Subject:Re: Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux
Date:Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:32:34 -0500
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:45:13 +0100, Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen wrote:

> ozz writes:
>
>> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:45:33 +0100, Christian Kirbach
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> There isn't only QT problem. I'm running Opera also with Windows
>>>> (same version as I have in Linux -- 7.54u1) and getting same
>>>> problem :(
>>
>>> QT is cross-platform, Dude. It is QT on Mickysoft Windows as well.
>>>
>> ...if U have installed one ;) but I definitely not.
>>
>
>
> Opera only uses Qt on unix. Some printing problems are in Qt, but
> those will usually just cause opera to not print anything at all.
> Most of the layout problems are in opera...
>
> eirik

I don't know why Opera doesn't offer the _option_ of doing the
equivalent of a graphics screen dump for printing web pages,
considering that what they've done thusfar just plain hasn't
worked on a lot of systems.
From:Charles Sullivan
Subject:Re: Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux
Date:Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:14:11 -0500
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 10:40:13 +0000, Bob Goddard wrote:

> Charles Sullivan wrote:
>
>> This is getting tiresome and I'm wondering why I continue
>> wasting time with Opera.
> [...]
>
> Then stop running betas and stick with a version which works for you.
>
>
> B

Yeah, but everything since Opera 6.12 is Beta. :-)
From:Tullio Chersi
Subject:Re: Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux
Date:Sun, 09 Jan 2005 05:06:13 +0100
Charles Sullivan wrote:
> This is getting tiresome and I'm wondering why I continue
> wasting time with Opera.
>
> All I ask is the ability to print a webpage that bears some
> resemblance to what I see on the screen. Opera hasn't done
> that properly since the final 6.xx version.
>
> I can't even get a decent printout of Opera's home page,
> http://www.opera.com. All I get is some chopped up mess
> with part of the text cut off and the panels on the right
> side of the screen appearing on subsequent pages, if at all.
>
> I'm currently running Opera 8.0b1 under Fedora Core 2,
> (kernel 2.6.7-1.494.2.2) on a Pentium 4 i686 sytem, connected
> to an HP 4000 LaserJet (Postscript 2) printer. Gnome 2.6.
> QT 3.3.3-0.1
>
> If there are some fonts or settings I need to tweak, please
> enlighten me.
>
> Regards,
> Charles Sullivan (Registered user since Opera 4)
>
I came back to Opera on my SuSE Linux 9.1, build 913, mainly because of
its ability to handle the sky chart applet at www.skyandtelescope.com
which is problematic with both Mozilla 1.73 and Firefox 1.0 and where
many people have problems according to a notice on the site. I have
tried printing the home page you mention with a 80% scale factor and the
result is better than in previous Opera releases. Maybe finetuning the
scale factor will give even better results. I use CUPS on my HP 710C GDI
printer with generally good results.
Tullio
From:Charles Sullivan
Subject:Re: Still can't print properly with Opera 8.0b1 Linux
Date:Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:20:37 -0500
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 05:06:13 +0100, Tullio Chersi wrote:

> Charles Sullivan wrote:
>> This is getting tiresome and I'm wondering why I continue
>> wasting time with Opera.
>>
>> All I ask is the ability to print a webpage that bears some
>> resemblance to what I see on the screen. Opera hasn't done
>> that properly since the final 6.xx version.
>>
>> I can't even get a decent printout of Opera's home page,
>> http://www.opera.com. All I get is some chopped up mess
>> with part of the text cut off and the panels on the right
>> side of the screen appearing on subsequent pages, if at all.
>>
>> I'm currently running Opera 8.0b1 under Fedora Core 2,
>> (kernel 2.6.7-1.494.2.2) on a Pentium 4 i686 sytem, connected
>> to an HP 4000 LaserJet (Postscript 2) printer. Gnome 2.6.
>> QT 3.3.3-0.1
>>
>> If there are some fonts or settings I need to tweak, please
>> enlighten me.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Charles Sullivan (Registered user since Opera 4)
>>
> I came back to Opera on my SuSE Linux 9.1, build 913, mainly because of
> its ability to handle the sky chart applet at www.skyandtelescope.com
> which is problematic with both Mozilla 1.73 and Firefox 1.0 and where
> many people have problems according to a notice on the site. I have
> tried printing the home page you mention with a 80% scale factor and the
> result is better than in previous Opera releases. Maybe finetuning the
> scale factor will give even better results. I use CUPS on my HP 710C GDI
> printer with generally good results.
> Tullio

Thanks for the response Tullio. Unfortunately, fiddling with the
scale factor has not worked any magic for me.
   

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