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Current group: opera.linux
Antialiasing, Opera 8 Beta
| Igor Jagec | | Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen | | Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen | | Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen | | Igor Jagec | | Igor Jagec | | Igor Jagec |
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| | From: | Igor Jagec | | Subject: | Antialiasing, Opera 8 Beta | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:18:38 +0100 |
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 | I like new Opera and I switched back from Firefox, but having some font
family or something non antialiased. For example: I found on
http://www.ati.com/products/catalyst/linux.html (The FAQ) non
antialiased fonts and all the fonts I set have antialiasing suppord
under Windows. How to make these fonts antialiased?
Thank you.
P.S. I would like you Opera guys to make 8 final with Linux traditional
font preferences as Linux distros doesn't come with Times New Roman,
Arial and so on. Make it to Bistream Vera Sans or something.
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| | From: | Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen | | Subject: | Re: Antialiasing, Opera 8 Beta | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:54:30 +0100 |
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| Igor Jagec writes:
> I like new Opera and I switched back from Firefox, but having some font
> family or something non antialiased. For example: I found on
> http://www.ati.com/products/catalyst/linux.html (The FAQ) non
> antialiased fonts and all the fonts I set have antialiasing suppord
> under Windows. How to make these fonts antialiased?
>
> Thank you.
>
> P.S. I would like you Opera guys to make 8 final with Linux traditional
> font preferences as Linux distros doesn't come with Times New Roman,
> Arial and so on. Make it to Bistream Vera Sans or something.
>
The CSS of ati seems to set helvetica as the font family for pretty
much everything. Most likely you have a helvetica font supplied by
the X server (that is not antialiased) and no helvetica fonts supplied
by the xft system (which can be antialiased).
It is possible to tell Opera not to use X fonts at all by adding
Enable Core X Fonts=0
to the [User Prefs] section of $HOME/.opera/opera6.ini. Do not edit
this file while Opera is running.
eirik
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| | From: | Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen | | Subject: | Re: Antialiasing, Opera 8 Beta | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:06:49 +0100 |
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| Igor Jagec writes:
> Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen kaže:
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>> Fonts are a problem, and the way we handle it on linux isn't really
>> good enough. We have some plans we want to try, but as long as it
>> works mostly ok, there's just too many other things that are more
>> important.
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> Such as? :)
Just about anything that makes some pages hard to use... (Font
problems very seldom makes pages unusable. Sometimes ugly, but not
unusable. The worst cases I know of are some cases of unicode-encoded
east asian pages, where the "default" font chosen is in the wrong
language...)
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> For instance, I noticed that Java which I got with my distro (Slackware
> 10.0) doesn't work with Opera, and works fine with Firefox and Mozilla.
> Fortunately, I almost don't use Java so it's not an issue for me :)
>
You've set the correct path in prefs->multimedia->java path? And
"validate" says it's ok?
eirik
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| | From: | Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen | | Subject: | Re: Antialiasing, Opera 8 Beta | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:03:49 +0100 |
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| Igor Jagec writes:
> My system crashed while posting (?) so I don't know if my post get here.
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> Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen kaže:
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>> The CSS of ati seems to set helvetica as the font family for pretty
>> much everything.
>
> It's not important page for me as I'm total nVidia user (having nForce2
> chipset and GeForce FX5200 graphics card), but I noticed the same
> problem on some pages.
>
Maybe they do the same thing...
>> Most likely you have a helvetica font supplied by
>> the X server (that is not antialiased) and no helvetica fonts supplied
>> by the xft system (which can be antialiased).
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> I don't know. I didn't set up Helvetica in Opera settings.
You don't have to. If Opera is told (by the web page) to use
helvetica, then opera will use whatever helvetica is available on the
system.
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>> It is possible to tell Opera not to use X fonts at all by adding
>> Enable Core X Fonts=0
>> to the [User Prefs] section of $HOME/.opera/opera6.ini. Do not edit
>> this file while Opera is running.
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> It didn't help, but thanks anyway. You did the great job in 8 beta and I
> can't wait to see 8 Final. I'd like to send you my
> $HOME/.opera/opera6.ini but the file has 13 pages (A4).
>
Fonts are a problem, and the way we handle it on linux isn't really
good enough. We have some plans we want to try, but as long as it
works mostly ok, there's just too many other things that are more
important.
You may want to try starting opera with the '-personaldir' option to
see what kind of difference that makes:
opera -personaldir some-new-opera-dir
This will cause opera to use "some-new-opera-dir" instead of
$HOME/.opera. If "some-new-opera-dir" does not exist, it will be
created, and opera will run as if you had never run it before. This
is an easy way to see what differences your settings makes. I don't
think it will make any difference for this problem, though.
eirik
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| | From: | Igor Jagec | | Subject: | Re: Antialiasing, Opera 8 Beta | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:30:53 +0100 |
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| Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen ka¾e:
>>It's not important page for me as I'm total nVidia user (having nForce2
>>chipset and GeForce FX5200 graphics card), but I noticed the same
>>problem on some pages.
> Maybe they do the same thing...
Most likely.
> Fonts are a problem, and the way we handle it on linux isn't really
> good enough. We have some plans we want to try, but as long as it
> works mostly ok, there's just too many other things that are more
> important.
Such as? :)
For instance, I noticed that Java which I got with my distro (Slackware
10.0) doesn't work with Opera, and works fine with Firefox and Mozilla.
Fortunately, I almost don't use Java so it's not an issue for me :)
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I.
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| | From: | Igor Jagec | | Subject: | Re: Antialiasing, Opera 8 Beta | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:26:16 +0100 |
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| Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen ka¾e:
>>http://www.ati.com/products/catalyst/linux.html (The FAQ) non
....
> The CSS of ati seems to set helvetica as the font family for pretty
> much everything.
I have that problem on some pages, and the ati page is not a problem for
me as I am full nVidia user.
> Most likely you have a helvetica font supplied by
> the X server (that is not antialiased) and no helvetica fonts supplied
> by the xft system (which can be antialiased).
> It is possible to tell Opera not to use X fonts at all by adding
> Enable Core X Fonts=0
> to the [User Prefs] section of $HOME/.opera/opera6.ini. Do not edit
> this file while Opera is running.
Well, it didn't help :(
But thanks anyway.
BTW you did the great job till 8 Beta and I can't wait to see 8 final. I
thought I would never get back to Opera (I used it on Windows).
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I.
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| | From: | Igor Jagec | | Subject: | Re: Antialiasing, Opera 8 Beta | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:01:18 +0100 |
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| My system crashed while posting (?) so I don't know if my post get here.
Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen ka¾e:
> The CSS of ati seems to set helvetica as the font family for pretty
> much everything.
It's not important page for me as I'm total nVidia user (having nForce2
chipset and GeForce FX5200 graphics card), but I noticed the same
problem on some pages.
> Most likely you have a helvetica font supplied by
> the X server (that is not antialiased) and no helvetica fonts supplied
> by the xft system (which can be antialiased).
I don't know. I didn't set up Helvetica in Opera settings.
> It is possible to tell Opera not to use X fonts at all by adding
> Enable Core X Fonts=0
> to the [User Prefs] section of $HOME/.opera/opera6.ini. Do not edit
> this file while Opera is running.
It didn't help, but thanks anyway. You did the great job in 8 beta and I
can't wait to see 8 Final. I'd like to send you my
$HOME/.opera/opera6.ini but the file has 13 pages (A4).
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I.
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