I am again writing about the inability of users to nominate where the
Opera files are stored. Beta 8 puts data files where it wants them and
not where I want them. I know there are ways around it but Opera is
the only browser I know where you can't nominate where to put data files
files.
When can we look forward to some freedom to store data files like
address books and bookmarks where we want them .

regards Bussoguy

From:	Rijk van Geijtenbeek
Subject:	Re: Files and Paths
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:03:45 +0100

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:02:09 +0800, Bussoguy wrote:

> I am again writing about the inability of users to nominate where the
> Opera files are stored. Beta 8 puts data files where it wants them and
> not where I want them. I know there are ways around it but Opera is
> the only browser I know where you can't nominate where to put data files
> files.

Hmm.., didn't know you could change such things in Mozilla or MSIE at all
(except by editing the Registry).

> When can we look forward to some freedom to store data files like
> address books and bookmarks where we want them .

You can do this already. I've written a step-by-step explanation here:

http://my.opera.com/Rijk/journal/33

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From:	Steven V. Gunhouse
Subject:	Re: Files and Paths
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:12:40 GMT

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:03:45 +0100, Rijk van Geijtenbeek
wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:02:09 +0800, Bussoguy wrote:
>
>> I am again writing about the inability of users to nominate where the
>> Opera files are stored. Beta 8 puts data files where it wants them and
>> not where I want them. I know there are ways around it but Opera is
>> the only browser I know where you can't nominate where to put data
>> files files.
>
> Hmm.., didn't know you could change such things in Mozilla or MSIE at
> all (except by editing the Registry).
>
>> When can we look forward to some freedom to store data files like
>> address books and bookmarks where we want them .
>
> You can do this already. I've written a step-by-step explanation here:
>
> http://my.opera.com/Rijk/journal/33
>

In the two named cases (bookmarks and contacts), right-click on the
appropriate panel, and in the popup menu choose File, Save as ...

However, no corresponding option on Notes.

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From:	Brian D Clary
Subject:	Re: Files and Paths
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:17:49 -0500

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:12:40 GMT, Steven V. Gunhouse
wrote:

>>> When can we look forward to some freedom to store data files like
>>> address books and bookmarks where we want them .
>>
>> You can do this already. I've written a step-by-step explanation here:
>>
>> http://my.opera.com/Rijk/journal/33
>
> In the two named cases (bookmarks and contacts), right-click on the
> appropriate panel, and in the popup menu choose File, Save as ...
>
> However, no corresponding option on Notes.

Indeed, it would be very welcome here...

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From:	James Raehl
Subject:	Re: Files and Paths
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:38:37 -0700

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:12:40 GMT, Steven V. Gunhouse
wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:03:45 +0100, Rijk van Geijtenbeek
> wrote:
>
> However, no corresponding option on Notes.
>

IMHO the biggest deficiency in notes. No save, export, import, sharing
note templates. Should be trivial to implement saving a range of notes,
since AFAIK the pieces are all there -- Save-as, send by mail (must have
clip out a note from the database). Just add an action to All-Actions, to
copy a range of data from the note file to the Save-as file.

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From:	Ken Knox
Subject:	Re: Files and Paths
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:38:20 -0500

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:38:37 -0700, James Raehl wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:12:40 GMT, Steven V. Gunhouse
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:03:45 +0100, Rijk van Geijtenbeek
>> wrote:
>>
>> However, no corresponding option on Notes.
>>
>
> IMHO the biggest deficiency in notes. No save, export, import, sharing
> note templates. Should be trivial to implement saving a range of notes,
> since AFAIK the pieces are all there -- Save-as, send by mail (must have
> clip out a note from the database). Just add an action to All-Actions,
> to copy a range of data from the note file to the Save-as file.
>

OK...Here's a neat option for you! I just tried the following:

1) Made a new folder in the bookmarks and named it "Notes"
2) Imported the Notes.adr file into that folder
3) Viewed the properties just as you would for any bookmark.

The only real problem with doing it that way is that it isn't
dynamic...that is, it doesn't update the bookmarks file if you change the
notes file.

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From:	Steven V. Gunhouse
Subject:	Re: Files and Paths
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:12:45 GMT

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:38:37 -0700, James Raehl wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:12:40 GMT, Steven V. Gunhouse
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:03:45 +0100, Rijk van Geijtenbeek
>> wrote:
>>
>> However, no corresponding option on Notes.
>>
>
> IMHO the biggest deficiency in notes. No save, export, import, sharing
> note templates. Should be trivial to implement saving a range of notes,
> since AFAIK the pieces are all there -- Save-as, send by mail (must have
> clip out a note from the database). Just add an action to All-Actions,
> to copy a range of data from the note file to the Save-as file.
>

Wouldn't be hard, they already have Save selected bookmarks/contacts as.
All of those are in Opera's generic *.adr format, the exact same code
would work. Just have to apply it to notes.adr is all.

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From:	Leon Fisk
Subject:	Re: Files and Paths
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:23:45 -0500

Maybe, "Steven V. Gunhouse"
Wrote in

>On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:38:37 -0700, James Raehl wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:12:40 GMT, Steven V. Gunhouse
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:03:45 +0100, Rijk van Geijtenbeek
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> However, no corresponding option on Notes.
>>>
>>
>> IMHO the biggest deficiency in notes. No save, export, import, sharing
>> note templates. Should be trivial to implement saving a range of notes,
>> since AFAIK the pieces are all there -- Save-as, send by mail (must have
>> clip out a note from the database). Just add an action to All-Actions,
>> to copy a range of data from the note file to the Save-as file.
>>
>
>Wouldn't be hard, they already have Save selected bookmarks/contacts as.
>All of those are in Opera's generic *.adr format, the exact same code
>would work. Just have to apply it to notes.adr is all.

As long as we are wishing...

Notes also keeps the URL from where it was saved (if there
was one). It would be nice to get this info via Properties,
another column, or... As it is now I have to load the Notes
file in a word processor to find what the URL was.

I think one of the early releases used to show the "saved
from" URL.

It would also be nice if the notes panel remembered how it
was sorted, like the Bookmarks panel does...

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From:	Rijk van Geijtenbeek
Subject:	Re: Files and Paths
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:49:25 +0100

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:23:45 -0500, Leon Fisk wrote:

...

> As long as we are wishing...

Looks like the wrong newsgroup in that case :)

> Notes also keeps the URL from where it was saved (if there
> was one). It would be nice to get this info via Properties,
> another column, or... As it is now I have to load the Notes
> file in a word processor to find what the URL was.

Or hover over it, and see the URL in the tooltip. Or double-click the note, and see the URL in the address field, loading the page.

> I think one of the early releases used to show the "saved
> from" URL.
>
> It would also be nice if the notes panel remembered how it
> was sorted, like the Bookmarks panel does...

It doesn't?

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From:	Steven V. Gunhouse
Subject:	Re: Files and Paths
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:11:14 GMT

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:49:25 +0100, Rijk van Geijtenbeek
wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:23:45 -0500, Leon Fisk
> wrote:
>
> ..
>
>> As long as we are wishing...
>
> Looks like the wrong newsgroup in that case :)
>
>> Notes also keeps the URL from where it was saved (if there
>> was one). It would be nice to get this info via Properties,
>> another column, or... As it is now I have to load the Notes
>> file in a word processor to find what the URL was.
>
> Or hover over it, and see the URL in the tooltip. Or double-click the
> note, and see the URL in the address field, loading the page.
>
>> I think one of the early releases used to show the "saved
>> from" URL.
>>
>> It would also be nice if the notes panel remembered how it
>> was sorted, like the Bookmarks panel does...
>
> It doesn't?
>

Would be nice if Manage accounts remembered how it was sorted, it always
comes up sorted by account type.

From my testing, Manage notes always comes up "unsorted". Which is fine
with me, I'll sort it myself. But if you tap the column heading to sort by
name (the only column there is), it doesn't remember that.

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