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 | | From: | Danila Medvedev | | Subject: | Broken zoom :(((((( Aaaa!!! | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:48:10 +0300 |
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 | I don't know what happened, but something just broke the Zoom feature. :(
Zooming in or out makes (almost) all images disappear. Unless the zoom is exactly 100%, the images are hidden.
I have these pages open: http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=26542005 http://www.apple.com/iwork/ http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Busy_Being_Born.txt&sortOrder=Sort%20by%20Rating http://slate.msn.com/ All of them have this problem.
Opening not a page, but just an image in Opera also doesn't allow zooming. Opening local images have the same problem too. The problem happens with JPEGs, GIFs and PNGs. No difference
I noted that on slate one image works fine, the MSN logo at http://sc.msn.com/global/c/lg/MSFT_118x35.gif
Reloading a page doesn't help. Closing and restarting Opera doesn't help. The MSN logo still works after reloading the image.
The layout of the page stays intact, the colours and other font formatting work fine.
When switching to medium screen rendering, those images that are resized are hidden. Those that aren't are visible.
All this happened some time ago (a few days ago I notice the problem on one image in a MSRed page, but didn't pay any attention to this). No idea what caused it.
The PC is relatively freshly booted, no viruses, spyware, memory intensive applications, disk corruption or other crap.
P.S. Bug report 161213 submitted.
-- Best regards, Danila mailto:danila.medvedev@mail.ru
Today, through the accelerating pace of technological development and scientific understanding, we are entering a whole new stage in the history of the human species. http://www.transhumanism.org/resources/faq.html
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 | | From: | Rijk van Geijtenbeek | | Subject: | Re: Broken zoom :(((((( Aaaa!!! | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:00:26 +0100 |
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 | On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:48:10 +0300, Danila Medvedev wrote:
> I don't know what happened, but something just broke the Zoom feature. :( > > Zooming in or out makes (almost) all images disappear. Unless the zoom > is exactly 100%, the images are hidden.
If Opera 'suddenly' starts behaving radically differently, there might be other factors in play. Unless you can find a reproduction scenario, it doesn't help much to file a bug report. Posting here is fine, if others also experiences this that would be useful info.
-- The Web is a procrastination apparatus: | Rijk van Geijtenbeek It can absorb as much time as | Documentation & QA is required to ensure that you | Opera Software ASA won't get any real work done. - J.Nielsen |http://my.opera.com/Rijk/journal
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 | | From: | Danila Medvedev | | Subject: | Re: Broken zoom :(((((( Aaaa!!! | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:38:22 +0300 |
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 | On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:00:26 +0100, Rijk van Geijtenbeek wrote:
>> Zooming in or out makes (almost) all images disappear. Unless the zoom >> is exactly 100%, the images are hidden. > > If Opera 'suddenly' starts behaving radically differently, there might > be other factors in play. Unless you can find a reproduction scenario, > it doesn't help much to file a bug report. Posting here is fine, if > others also experiences this that would be useful info. I thought about that. But after it suddenly started it does it all the time now, so in a sense it is reproducible, just not on every Opera installation. One thing that I noted is that GIF logos frequently work fine. http://www.marinersoftware.com/templates/marinersoftware/images/hdrlogo.gif Other images on http://www.marinersoftware.com/sitepage.php?page=42 don't work. May be all GIFs with transparency would work fine, I don't know yet.
-- Best regards, Danila mailto:danila.medvedev@mail.ru
Today, through the accelerating pace of technological development and scientific understanding, we are entering a whole new stage in the history of the human species. http://www.transhumanism.org/resources/faq.html
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 | | From: | Danila Medvedev | | Subject: | Broken zoom caused by this OPERA6.INI file | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:46:06 +0300 |
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 | Here is the cause of the problem. Use this Opera6.ini file (copy to your profile directory) and zooming will stop working. I don't remember how the address to which send updates is formed, so, Rijk (or anyone else), if you could send the contents of this message to a proper address for bug number 161213, that would be nice.
Copying this file to a fresh installation of Opera breaks zooming. Restoring the default ini file fixes it.
If anyone has any ideas on what got broken in this file, I'd like to know it too.
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 | | From: | Danila Medvedev | | Subject: | Re: Broken zoom :(((((( Aaaa!!! | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:04:14 +0300 |
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 | I just tried, reinstalling Opera (on top of existing version) doesn't help either. I wonder what could be the problem...
The list of software I installed after Opera 8 Beta: Trees of Pangaea demo EGirl Konfabulator Ulead PhotoImpact 10 - did they mess up the display of images? Mp3tag
> I don't know what happened, but something just broke the Zoom feature. :( > > Zooming in or out makes (almost) all images disappear. Unless the zoom > is exactly 100%, the images are hidden.
-- Best regards, Danila mailto:danila.medvedev@mail.ru
Today, through the accelerating pace of technological development and scientific understanding, we are entering a whole new stage in the history of the human species. http://www.transhumanism.org/resources/faq.html
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 | | From: | Danila Medvedev | | Subject: | Re: Broken zoom :(((((( Aaaa!!! | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:30:55 +0300 |
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 | > I just tried, reinstalling Opera (on top of existing version) doesn't > help either. I wonder what could be the problem... Doing a fresh install of Opera helps. Installed a copy into G:\Programs\OperaTEST and it has zooming. Now what the fuck should I do to get this working in my existing installation? Any ideas on how I should regression test this problem?
-- Best regards, Danila mailto:danila.medvedev@mail.ru
Today, through the accelerating pace of technological development and scientific understanding, we are entering a whole new stage in the history of the human species. http://www.transhumanism.org/resources/faq.html
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 | | From: | Gunnar | | Subject: | Re: Broken zoom :(((((( Aaaa!!! | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:43:56 +0100 |
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 | On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:30:55 +0300, Danila Medvedev =
wrote:
>> I just tried, reinstalling Opera (on top of existing version) doesn't= =
>> help either. I wonder what could be the problem... > Doing a fresh install of Opera helps. Installed a copy into =
> G:\Programs\OperaTEST and it has zooming. Now what the fuck should I d= o =
> to get this working in my existing installation? Any ideas on how I =
> should regression test this problem?
Delete opera6.ini and reconfigure the preferences.
-- =
Gunnar
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 | | From: | Danila Medvedev | | Subject: | Re: Broken zoom :(((((( Aaaa!!! | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:02:26 +0300 |
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 | >>> I just tried, reinstalling Opera (on top of existing version) doesn't >>> help either. I wonder what could be the problem... >> Doing a fresh install of Opera helps. Installed a copy into >> G:\Programs\OperaTEST and it has zooming. Now what the fuck should I do >> to get this working in my existing installation? Any ideas on how I >> should regression test this problem? > > Delete opera6.ini and reconfigure the preferences. This doesn't work, actually. I tried, but zoom is still broken. At the same time, copying opera6.ini to a fresh installation seems to break zoom there too. There must be something else causing the problem as well. :(
-- Best regards, Danila mailto:danila.medvedev@mail.ru
Today, through the accelerating pace of technological development and scientific understanding, we are entering a whole new stage in the history of the human species. http://www.transhumanism.org/resources/faq.html
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 | | From: | Danila Medvedev | | Subject: | Re: Broken zoom :(((((( Aaaa!!! | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:49:12 +0300 |
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 | >>> I just tried, reinstalling Opera (on top of existing version) doesn't >>> help either. I wonder what could be the problem... >> Doing a fresh install of Opera helps. Installed a copy into >> G:\Programs\OperaTEST and it has zooming. Now what the fuck should I do >> to get this working in my existing installation? Any ideas on how I >> should regression test this problem? > Delete opera6.ini and reconfigure the preferences. Thanks. I just found that opera6.ini was the problem, but I don't think reconfiguring is a good idea, given that my opera6.ini is almost 30Kb as opposed to 3Kb default file. I would have to configure actions for obscure file types, reconfigure the interface from scratch., etc. I'd be more interested to know, what exactly is causing the problem (my INI is included in another post in the thread), so that I can just delete the offending line.
-- Best regards, Danila mailto:danila.medvedev@mail.ru
Today, through the accelerating pace of technological development and scientific understanding, we are entering a whole new stage in the history of the human species. http://www.transhumanism.org/resources/faq.html
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 | | From: | Gunnar | | Subject: | Re: Broken zoom :(((((( Aaaa!!! | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:14:25 +0100 |
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 | On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:49:12 +0300, Danila Medvedev =
wrote:
>>>> I just tried, reinstalling Opera (on top of existing version) doesn= 't =
>>>> help either. I wonder what could be the problem.. >>> Doing a fresh install of Opera helps. Installed a copy into =
>>> G:\Programs\OperaTEST and it has zooming. Now what the fuck should I= =
>>> do to get this working in my existing installation? Any ideas on how= I =
>>> should regression test this problem? >> Delete opera6.ini and reconfigure the preferences. > Thanks. I just found that opera6.ini was the problem, but I don't thin= k =
> reconfiguring is a good idea, given that my opera6.ini is almost 30Kb = as =
> opposed to 3Kb default file. I would have to configure actions for =
> obscure file types, reconfigure the interface from scratch., etc. I'd = be =
> more interested to know, what exactly is causing the problem (my INI i= s =
> included in another post in the thread), so that I can just delete the= =
> offending line.
Well, your Opera6.ini is quite old, because you installed over an 6.05. = It contains some useless entries of the old version and i wouldn't wonder i= f there were some incompatible entries. So beginning from zero would be th= e best decision. You can try to keep [Adv User Prefs], [File Types =
Extension], and [File Types]. Maybe it's enough to delete just the [User Prefs] =
section.
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Gunnar
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 | | From: | Danila Medvedev | | Subject: | Re: Broken zoom :(((((( Aaaa!!! | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:42:57 +0300 |
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 | I went through it and eventually narrowed the problem down to [Multimedia] Interpolate Images=1
(I suspected it to be the culprit initially, tested it, but apparently wrongly)
Setting it to 0 makes zooming work, setting back to 1 breaks things. This is the setting for Smooth zooming of images in Preferences/Multimedia. So the problem can be rephrased now this way: Smooth zooming of images just stopped working without reason.
Now the question is - why isn't smooth zooming working? Installing another copy of Opera to a new directory and then enabling Smooth zooming there breaks it too. On the Opera first run page the icons work fine (I suspect they are transparent GIFs), but the red image on top as well as the background do not work.
>>>>> I just tried, reinstalling Opera (on top of existing version) >>>>> doesn't help either. I wonder what could be the problem.. >>>> Doing a fresh install of Opera helps. Installed a copy into >>>> G:\Programs\OperaTEST and it has zooming. Now what the fuck should I >>>> do to get this working in my existing installation? Any ideas on how >>>> I should regression test this problem? >>> Delete opera6.ini and reconfigure the preferences. >> Thanks. I just found that opera6.ini was the problem, but I don't think >> reconfiguring is a good idea, given that my opera6.ini is almost 30Kb >> as opposed to 3Kb default file. I would have to configure actions for >> obscure file types, reconfigure the interface from scratch., etc. I'd >> be more interested to know, what exactly is causing the problem (my INI >> is included in another post in the thread), so that I can just delete >> the offending line. > > Well, your Opera6.ini is quite old, because you installed over an 6.05. > It > contains some useless entries of the old version and i wouldn't wonder if > there were some incompatible entries. So beginning from zero would be the > best decision. You can try to keep [Adv User Prefs], [File Types > Extension], > and [File Types]. Maybe it's enough to delete just the [User Prefs] > section. >
-- Best regards, Danila mailto:danila.medvedev@mail.ru
Today, through the accelerating pace of technological development and scientific understanding, we are entering a whole new stage in the history of the human species. http://www.transhumanism.org/resources/faq.html
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 | | From: | Gunnar | | Subject: | Re: Broken zoom :(((((( Aaaa!!! | | Date: | Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:20:24 +0100 |
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 | On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:42:57 +0300, Danila Medvedev =
wrote:
> I went through it and eventually narrowed the problem down to > [Multimedia] > Interpolate Images=3D1 > > (I suspected it to be the culprit initially, tested it, but apparently= =
> wrongly) > > Setting it to 0 makes zooming work, setting back to 1 breaks things. =
> This is the setting for Smooth zooming of images in =
> Preferences/Multimedia. So the problem can be rephrased now this way: = =
> Smooth zooming of images just stopped working without reason. > > Now the question is - why isn't smooth zooming working? Installing =
> another copy of Opera to a new directory and then enabling Smooth =
> zooming there breaks it too. On the Opera first run page the icons wor= k =
> fine (I suspect they are transparent GIFs), but the red image on top a= s =
> well as the background do not work.
Smooth zooming works fine for me. So maybe the problem is somehow relate= d to your hardware or OS.
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Gunnar
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 | | From: | Danila Medvedev | | Subject: | Re: Broken zoom :(((((( Aaaa!!! | | Date: | Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:01:10 +0300 |
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 | >> I went through it and eventually narrowed the problem down to >> [Multimedia] >> Interpolate Images=1 >> >> (I suspected it to be the culprit initially, tested it, but apparently >> wrongly) >> >> Setting it to 0 makes zooming work, setting back to 1 breaks things. >> This is the setting for Smooth zooming of images in >> Preferences/Multimedia. So the problem can be rephrased now this way: >> Smooth zooming of images just stopped working without reason. >> >> Now the question is - why isn't smooth zooming working? Installing >> another copy of Opera to a new directory and then enabling Smooth >> zooming there breaks it too. On the Opera first run page the icons work >> fine (I suspect they are transparent GIFs), but the red image on top as >> well as the background do not work. > > Smooth zooming works fine for me. So maybe the problem is somehow related > to your hardware or OS. I don't think so, as it worked before on the same OS (Win2k Pro) and hardware (ATI Radeon 9600PRO). I agree that it is related to my "setup", meaning the combination of OS, hardware, other applications AND Opera, but since my computer is definitely capable of smoothly zooming something, this is clearly a bug in Opera, because it can't do it.
-- Best regards, Danila mailto:danila.medvedev@mail.ru
Today, through the accelerating pace of technological development and scientific understanding, we are entering a whole new stage in the history of the human species. http://www.transhumanism.org/resources/faq.html
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 | | From: | Gunnar | | Subject: | Re: Broken zoom :(((((( Aaaa!!! | | Date: | Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:57:30 +0100 |
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 | On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:01:10 +0300, Danila Medvedev =
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>> Smooth zooming works fine for me. So maybe the problem is somehow =
>> related >> to your hardware or OS. > I don't think so, as it worked before on the same OS (Win2k Pro) and =
> hardware (ATI Radeon 9600PRO). I agree that it is related to my "setup= ", =
> meaning the combination of OS, hardware, other applications AND Opera,= =
> but since my computer is definitely capable of smoothly zooming =
> something, this is clearly a bug in Opera, because it can't do it.
I have exaktly the same config (Win2k, Radeon 9600pro and Opera 8.0b1), so the problem must be related to something different.
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Gunnar
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