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 | | From: | Redbaiter | | Subject: | Last Ride Of The Thought Police | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:54:02 +1300 |
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 | As I read this article I had to smile to myself at how its criticisms of the progressives was so accurate in respect of the low life leftists who saturate this forum with their sickening PC shit. Idiots like Mungbean Mowwisey and Trailer Park Tarla and Wanker Withers, who is so fucked in the head he appears to earnestly believe that opinions he disagrees with are "lies".
This is abridged. The full article is here-
http://washingtontimes.com/commentary/20050120-083546-5796r.htm
Last ride of the thought police? By R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr. Published January 21, 2005
----------------------- The acrimonious controversy Lawrence H. Summers, president of Harvard University, finds himself in reminds me of something I have suspected for years. The First Amendment's guarantee of free speech is a reactionary blight inimical to all true progressives and certain to be formally eliminated from the Constitution as soon as progressives regain ascendancy.
There have been times when progressives, or liberals as they are often called, championed free speech, for instance, in the early days of the Cold War and during youthful protests in the 1960s. In the early days of the Cold War, progressives favored the right of communists to denounce America as they often did, particularly on college campuses.
Now times have changed and progressives are the most prominent opponents of free speech, especially on campus. This has got Mr. Summers in his present predicament. He is not keeping up with intellectual fashion. Now he has said there are "innate" differences between men and women. He said this at a scholarly meeting. There were progressives there. They were furious.
Said a biology professor in attendance, Professor Nancy Hopkins, "I felt I was going to be sick." And she offered grisly details: "My heart was pounding and my breath was shallow. ... I was extremely upset." As for the issue Mr. Summers raised, Ms. Hopkins said: "That's the kind of insidious, destructive, unthought-through [?] attitude that causes a lot of harm. ... It's one thing for an ordinary person to shoot his [not his/her?] mouth like that, but quite another for a top educational leader."
For years now there have been things one simply cannot say in the presence of progressives. The possibility men and women have different aptitudes is one of them. There are others. This means, of course, there are things progressives are unlikely to hear. When they do hear them, they are astonished and, as Professor Hopkins demonstrates, physically convulsed.
That progressives rarely hear ideas displeasing to them I think explains their present dazed condition regarding the drift of American society. It also explains their anger.
What is to be their fate? Allow me a suggestion, unwelcome though it may be. They will go to their graves dazed and angry and thinking they are right. They will cause a great deal of unpleasantness, but they are going to disappear. The First Amendment will outlast them all. They have seen their last ascendancy.
R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr. is the founder and editor in chief of the American Spectator, a contributing editor to the New York Sun, and an adjunct scholar at the Hudson Institute. His most recent book is "Madame Hillary: The Dark Road To The White House."
-- Redbaiter In the leftist's lexicon, the lowest of the low
"At the core of modern liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke
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 | | From: | JPB | | Subject: | Re: Last Ride Of The Thought Police | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:31:35 +0930 |
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 | Redbaiter wrote:
> As I read this article I had to smile to myself at how its > criticisms of the progressives was so accurate in respect of the > low life leftists who saturate this forum with their sickening > PC shit. Idiots like Mungbean Mowwisey and Trailer Park Tarla > and Wanker Withers, who is so fucked in the head he appears to > earnestly believe that opinions he disagrees with are "lies".
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The word "progressive" has sadly been hijacked by people who are nothing but progressive in what they believe in. Just the same as the term "liberal", as used in the US. Those, who describe themselves as liberals are, indeed, some of the most illiberal in their thinking out there.
They are not progressives nor liberals, Red - they are retards. High IQ retards in some cases, no doubt, but retards nonetheless. In one word - leftists.Just like the ones you have pointed out above.
John Bayley
<...snip interesting article...>
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 | | From: | Tim | | Subject: | Re: Last Ride Of The Thought Police | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:02:02 +0000 |
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 | Redbaiter wrote: > As I read this article I had to smile to myself at how its > criticisms of the progressives was so accurate in respect of the > low life leftists who saturate this forum with their sickening > PC shit. Idiots like Mungbean Mowwisey and Trailer Park Tarla > and Wanker Withers, who is so fucked in the head he appears to > earnestly believe that opinions he disagrees with are "lies". > > This is abridged. The full article is here- > > http://washingtontimes.com/commentary/20050120-083546-5796r.htm > > Last ride of the thought police? > By R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr. > Published January 21, 2005 > > ----------------------- > The acrimonious controversy Lawrence H. Summers, president of > Harvard University, finds himself in reminds me of something I > have suspected for years. The First Amendment's guarantee of > free speech is a reactionary blight inimical to all true > progressives and certain to be formally eliminated from the > Constitution as soon as progressives regain ascendancy. > > There have been times when progressives, or liberals as they are > often called, championed free speech, for instance, in the early > days of the Cold War and during youthful protests in the 1960s. > In the early days of the Cold War, progressives favored the > right of communists to denounce America as they often did, > particularly on college campuses. > > Now times have changed and progressives are the most prominent > opponents of free speech, especially on campus. This has got Mr. > Summers in his present predicament. He is not keeping up with > intellectual fashion. Now he has said there are "innate" > differences between men and women. He said this at a scholarly > meeting. There were progressives there. They were furious. > > Said a biology professor in attendance, Professor Nancy Hopkins, > "I felt I was going to be sick." And she offered grisly details: > "My heart was pounding and my breath was shallow. ... I was > extremely upset." As for the issue Mr. Summers raised, Ms. > Hopkins said: "That's the kind of insidious, destructive, > unthought-through [?] attitude that causes a lot of harm. ... > It's one thing for an ordinary person to shoot his [not > his/her?] mouth like that, but quite another for a top > educational leader." > > For years now there have been things one simply cannot say in > the presence of progressives. The possibility men and women have > different aptitudes is one of them. There are others. This > means, of course, there are things progressives are unlikely to > hear. When they do hear them, they are astonished and, as > Professor Hopkins demonstrates, physically convulsed. > > That progressives rarely hear ideas displeasing to them I think > explains their present dazed condition regarding the drift of > American society. It also explains their anger. > > What is to be their fate? Allow me a suggestion, unwelcome > though it may be. They will go to their graves dazed and angry > and thinking they are right. They will cause a great deal of > unpleasantness, but they are going to disappear. The First > Amendment will outlast them all. They have seen their last > ascendancy. > > R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr. is the founder and editor in chief of the > American Spectator, a contributing editor to the New York Sun, > and an adjunct scholar at the Hudson Institute. His most recent > book is "Madame Hillary: The Dark Road To The White House." > >
The outrage seems particularly overdone, when one considers that functional MRI studies such as the one outlined in the linked article below have been available for quite some time.
http://today.uci.edu/news/release_detail.asp?key=1261
Intelligence in men and women is a gray and white matter
Men and women use different brain areas to achieve similar IQ results, UCI study finds
Irvine, Calif. , January 20, 2005
While there are essentially no disparities in general intelligence between the es, a UC Irvine study has found significant differences in brain areas where males and females manifest their intelligence.
The study shows women having more white matter and men more gray matter related to intellectual skill, revealing that no single neuroanatomical structure determines general intelligence and that different types of brain designs are capable of producing equivalent intellectual performance.
“These findings suggest that human evolution has created two different types of brains designed for equally intelligent behavior,” said Richard Haier, professor of psychology in the Department of Pediatrics and longtime human intelligence researcher, who led the study with colleagues at UCI and the University of New Mexico. “In addition, by pinpointing these gender-based intelligence areas, the study has the potential to aid research on dementia and other cognitive-impairment diseases in the brain.”
Study results appear on the online version of NeuroImage.
In general, men have approximately 6.5 times the amount of gray matter related to general intelligence than women, and women have nearly 10 times the amount of white matter related to intelligence than men. Gray matter represents information processing centers in the brain, and white matter represents the networking of – or connections between – these processing centers.
This, according to Rex Jung, a UNM neuropsychologist and co-author of the study, may help to explain why men tend to excel in tasks requiring more local processing (like mathematics), while women tend to excel at integrating and assimilating information from distributed gray-matter regions in the brain, such as required for language facility. These two very different neurological pathways and activity centers, however, result in equivalent overall performance on broad measures of cognitive ability, such as those found on intelligence tests.
The study also identified regional differences with intelligence. For example, 84 percent of gray-matter regions and 86 percent of white-matter regions involved with intellectual performance in women were found in the brain’s frontal lobes, compared to 45 percent and zero percent for males, respectively. The gray matter driving male intellectual performance is distributed throughout more of the brain.
According to the researchers, this more centralized intelligence processing in women is consistent with clinical findings that frontal brain injuries can be more detrimental to cognitive performance in women than men. Studies such as these, Haier and Jung add, someday may help lead to earlier diagnoses of brain disorders in males and females, as well as more effective and precise treatment protocols to address damage to particular regions in the brain.
For this study, UCI and UNM combined their respective neuroimaging technology and subject pools to study brain morphology with magnetic resonance imaging. MRI scanning and cognitive testing involved subjects at UCI and UNM. Using a technique called voxel-based morphometry, Haier and his UCI colleagues converted these MRI pictures into structural brain “maps” that correlated brain tissue volume with IQ.
Dr. Michael T. Alkire and Kevin Head of UCI and Ronald A. Yeo of UNM participated in the study, which was supported in part by the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development.
About the University of California, Irvine: The University of California, Irvine is a top-ranked public university dedicated to research, scholarship and community service. Founded in 1965, UCI is among the fastest-growing University of California campuses, with more than 24,000 undergraduate and graduate students and about 1,400 faculty members. The second-largest employer in dynamic Orange County, UCI contributes an annual economic impact of $3 billion.
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 | | From: | Tarla | | Subject: | Re: Last Ride Of The Thought Police | | Date: | Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:13:52 +1300 |
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 | On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:02:02 +0000, Tim wrote:
>The outrage seems particularly overdone, when one considers that >functional MRI studies such as the one outlined in the linked article >below have been available for quite some time.
What outrage? I haven't seen any signs of outrage on this newsgroup. > >http://today.uci.edu/news/release_detail.asp?key=1261 > >Intelligence in men and women is a gray and white matter > >Men and women use different brain areas to achieve similar IQ results, >UCI study finds > >Irvine, Calif. , January 20, 2005 > >While there are essentially no disparities in general intelligence >between the es, a UC Irvine study has found significant differences >in brain areas where males and females manifest their intelligence. > >The study shows women having more white matter and men more gray matter >related to intellectual skill, revealing that no single neuroanatomical >structure determines general intelligence and that different types of >brain designs are capable of producing equivalent intellectual performance. > >“These findings suggest that human evolution has created two different >types of brains designed for equally intelligent behavior,” said Richard >Haier, professor of psychology in the Department of Pediatrics and >longtime human intelligence researcher, who led the study with >colleagues at UCI and the University of New Mexico. “In addition, by >pinpointing these gender-based intelligence areas, the study has the >potential to aid research on dementia and other cognitive-impairment >diseases in the brain.” > >Study results appear on the online version of NeuroImage. > >In general, men have approximately 6.5 times the amount of gray matter >related to general intelligence than women, and women have nearly 10 >times the amount of white matter related to intelligence than men. Gray >matter represents information processing centers in the brain, and white >matter represents the networking of – or connections between – these >processing centers. > >This, according to Rex Jung, a UNM neuropsychologist and co-author of >the study, may help to explain why men tend to excel in tasks requiring >more local processing (like mathematics), while women tend to excel at >integrating and assimilating information from distributed gray-matter >regions in the brain, such as required for language facility. These two >very different neurological pathways and activity centers, however, >result in equivalent overall performance on broad measures of cognitive >ability, such as those found on intelligence tests. > >The study also identified regional differences with intelligence. For >example, 84 percent of gray-matter regions and 86 percent of >white-matter regions involved with intellectual performance in women >were found in the brain’s frontal lobes, compared to 45 percent and zero >percent for males, respectively. The gray matter driving male >intellectual performance is distributed throughout more of the brain. > >According to the researchers, this more centralized intelligence >processing in women is consistent with clinical findings that frontal >brain injuries can be more detrimental to cognitive performance in women >than men. Studies such as these, Haier and Jung add, someday may help >lead to earlier diagnoses of brain disorders in males and females, as >well as more effective and precise treatment protocols to address damage >to particular regions in the brain. > >For this study, UCI and UNM combined their respective neuroimaging >technology and subject pools to study brain morphology with magnetic >resonance imaging. MRI scanning and cognitive testing involved subjects >at UCI and UNM. Using a technique called voxel-based morphometry, Haier >and his UCI colleagues converted these MRI pictures into structural >brain “maps” that correlated brain tissue volume with IQ.
This was very interesting reading, thanks for posting it. -- Tarla **** Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!" --Hunter S. Thompson
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 | | From: | Redbaiter | | Subject: | Re: Last Ride Of The Thought Police | | Date: | Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:23:53 +1300 |
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 | Tarla says > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:02:02 +0000, Tim wrote: > > > >The outrage seems particularly overdone, when one considers that > >functional MRI studies such as the one outlined in the linked article > >below have been available for quite some time. > > >For this study, UCI and UNM combined their respective neuroimaging > >technology and subject pools to study brain morphology with magnetic > >resonance imaging. MRI scanning and cognitive testing involved subjects > >at UCI and UNM. Using a technique called voxel-based morphometry, Haier > >and his UCI colleagues converted these MRI pictures into structural > >brain “maps” that correlated brain tissue volume with IQ. > > This was very interesting reading, thanks for posting it. > Yes, Tim has posted a good article in its own context, but the contributor seems to have misunderstood the point of the discussion. It is not about whether what the professor said being scientifically accurate or inaccurate, but about the declining social ascendancy of the "progressives", leftist creeps like Goebellian Breen, Trailer Trash Tarla, and Wishy Washy Withers, and their attempts to control speech and thought.
"They have seen their last ascendancy"
The "progressives" sense this, and that is why they are so frantic these days.
Read it again.....
This is abridged. The full article is here-
http://washingtontimes.com/commentary/20050120-083546-5796r.htm
Last ride of the thought police? By R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr. Published January 21, 2005
----------------------- The acrimonious controversy Lawrence H. Summers, president of Harvard University, finds himself in reminds me of something I have suspected for years. The First Amendment's guarantee of free speech is a reactionary blight inimical to all true progressives and certain to be formally eliminated from the Constitution as soon as progressives regain ascendancy.
There have been times when progressives, or liberals as they are often called, championed free speech, for instance, in the early days of the Cold War and during youthful protests in the 1960s. In the early days of the Cold War, progressives favored the right of communists to denounce America as they often did, particularly on college campuses.
Now times have changed and progressives are the most prominent opponents of free speech, especially on campus. This has got Mr. Summers in his present predicament. He is not keeping up with intellectual fashion. Now he has said there are "innate" differences between men and women. He said this at a scholarly meeting. There were progressives there. They were furious.
Said a biology professor in attendance, Professor Nancy Hopkins, "I felt I was going to be sick." And she offered grisly details: "My heart was pounding and my breath was shallow. ... I was extremely upset." As for the issue Mr. Summers raised, Ms. Hopkins said: "That's the kind of insidious, destructive, unthought-through [?] attitude that causes a lot of harm. ... It's one thing for an ordinary person to shoot his [not his/her?] mouth like that, but quite another for a top educational leader."
For years now there have been things one simply cannot say in the presence of progressives. The possibility men and women have different aptitudes is one of them. There are others. This means, of course, there are things progressives are unlikely to hear. When they do hear them, they are astonished and, as Professor Hopkins demonstrates, physically convulsed.
That progressives rarely hear ideas displeasing to them I think explains their present dazed condition regarding the drift of American society. It also explains their anger.
What is to be their fate? Allow me a suggestion, unwelcome though it may be. They will go to their graves dazed and angry and thinking they are right. They will cause a great deal of unpleasantness, but they are going to disappear. The First Amendment will outlast them all. They have seen their last ascendancy.
R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr. is the founder and editor in chief of the American Spectator, a contributing editor to the New York Sun, and an adjunct scholar at the Hudson Institute. His most recent book is "Madame Hillary: The Dark Road To The White House."
-- Redbaiter In the leftist's lexicon, the lowest of the low
"At the core of modern liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke
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 | | From: | Warwick | | Subject: | Re: Last Ride Of The Thought Police | | Date: | Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:10:55 +1300 |
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 | On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:54:02 +1300, Redbaiter wrote:
You will have to spell this out for me pal.
Whose free speech is at risk here? The professor who spoke his mind or those that disagreed with him?
Who is the champion of free speech on the newsgroup? Those that speak their mind or those that tell them to shut the fuck up?
You have planted your feet firmly in the second group Russel. It's bloody hard to understand what the hell you are talking about, even after editing out the gratuitous abuse.
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