grimly bubble reckons

*The search for meaning in ones life has nothing whatever to do with an
employer.*

Thats a pretty good quote.

To my mind if any person feels they are *working for* anyone but
themselves, then they've fucked up THEIR choice of occupation.

In reality, the only right to work that a person has is, to work for
him/herself anyway.

Michael Gordge

From:	Redbaiter
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:32:58 +1300

mikegordge@xtra.co.nz says

>
> To my mind if any person feels they are *working for* anyone but
> themselves, then they've fucked up THEIR choice of occupation.

As if there's anything in your mind but rapidly degenerating
blood vessels.
>
> In reality, the only right to work that a person has is, to work for
> him/herself anyway.
>
What would you know about reality, preacher.

--
Redbaiter
In the leftist's lexicon, the lowest of the low

"At the core of modern liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding,
ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a
philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke

From:	John B
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:01:39 +1300

Stop spamming your sick toilet wall graffiti on this group. Time you were
reported methinks.

--
John B

"Patrick FitzGerald" wrote in message
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>
> _______________________________________________
>
> " A C T T H E | Yeah
> |
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> |
> P A R T Y " |
> |
>
>
>
> Rodney Hide
>
> _______________________________________________________
>
>
> Patrick

From:	Redbaiter
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:10:30 +1300

John B says

> Stop spamming your sick toilet wall graffiti on this group. Time you were
> reported methinks.
>
>
Yeah, this is a discussion group, a fact that doesn't seem to
have sunk into that fuckwit's brain yet. But then he's a
leftist, what else can you expect from such deranged superficial
loons as worship the ideology Patrick does? That said, its
hardly necessary for him tho, to keep repetitively posting
evidence of his dullness, ignorance and irrationality. The case
was closed years ago.

--
Redbaiter
In the leftist's lexicon, the lowest of the low

"At the core of modern liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding,
ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a
philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke

From:	Patrick FitzGerald
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:25:43 +1300

>Yeah, this is a discussion group, a fact that doesn't seem to
>have sunk into that fuckwit's brain yet. But then he's a
>leftist, what else can you expect from such deranged superficial
>loons as worship the ideology Patrick does? That said, its
>hardly necessary for him tho, to keep repetitively posting
>evidence of his dullness, ignorance and irrationality. The case
>was closed years ago.
>

The yellow-redbaiter is too gutless,scared and ashamed to affix his
real name to the mindless childish abuse that comprises most of his
posts

Patrick

From:	Mischief
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:37:17 +1300

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:25:43 +1300, Patrick FitzGerald
wrote:
>
>>Yeah, this is a discussion group, a fact that doesn't seem to
>>have sunk into that fuckwit's brain yet. But then he's a
>>leftist, what else can you expect from such deranged superficial
>>loons as worship the ideology Patrick does? That said, its
>>hardly necessary for him tho, to keep repetitively posting
>>evidence of his dullness, ignorance and irrationality. The case
>>was closed years ago.
>>
>
>The yellow-redbaiter is too gutless,scared and ashamed to affix his
>real name to the mindless childish abuse that comprises most of his
>posts
>
>Patrick

Patrick, you mad cunt, please answer my qestions below:

Patrick, please . . . . .

What is "Working Class"?

Are you "Working Class"?

Do you work for wages?

What is your occupation?

Are you happy with your employer?

Are you nice to your employer?

Are you grateful that you have an employer that employs you?

Are you entitled to a job?

Is your employer rich?

What made him rich?

What are your aspirations?

Would you ever like to be rich?

Would you ever like to own a big business and employ a lot of working
class workers?

Would you like to own an aeroplane, a jet boat, and a 4 x 4 Fendalton
tractor?

Could you sustain a pretty blonde to do your shopping and spend you
money and decorate your 4 x 4?

From:	NOSPAM at NOSPAM.invalid.com
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:49:50 +1300

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:37:17 +1300, Mischief wrote:

> Are you entitled to a job?

Yes - basic human right to have work.

Divine

--
Michael Stutz: "There is an area affecting business and home use where Linux
is greatly deficient, and I see no solution coming at all. I refer to the
area of e-mail viruses - they just don't make them for Linux like they do for
Windows. Same with a lot of those crippling meltdowns and system errors. If
you want a blue screen of death freeze-up, you pretty much have to run Windows
to get it. You won't be able to run those trojan horses that steal all your
passwords and copy your files out to the Internet, and you're out of luck with
all those funny attachments that wreak havoc in the workplace - there isn't
any Linux compatibility here at all."

From:	John B
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:59:45 +1300

wrote in message
news:pan.2005.01.23.03.49.49.275407@TRACKER...
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:37:17 +1300, Mischief wrote:
>
> > Are you entitled to a job?
>
> Yes - basic human right to have work.

Bullshit. No one "owes" you a living. It's up to you to get off ya bum and
provide that for for yourself.

--
John B

From:	NOSPAM at NOSPAM.invalid.com
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:27:42 +1300

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:59:45 +1300, John B wrote:

>> > Are you entitled to a job?
>>
>> Yes - basic human right to have work.
>
> Bullshit. No one "owes" you a living. It's up to you to get off ya bum and
> provide that for for yourself.

Who was talking about being "owed" a "living"?

According to the UN it is a fundamental human right to have meaningful
work to do.

Did I mention anything about how one came about that work? No!

So climb off your high and mighty horse!

Divine

--
The above reply is in response to a person who can be only described as a
knuckle-dragger.

From:	John B
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:27:48 +1300

wrote in message
news:pan.2005.01.23.05.27.41.658344@TRACKER...
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:59:45 +1300, John B wrote:
>
> >> > Are you entitled to a job?
> >>
> >> Yes - basic human right to have work.
> >
> > Bullshit. No one "owes" you a living. It's up to you to get off ya bum and
> > provide that for for yourself.
>
> Who was talking about being "owed" a "living"?

Well explain where this "meaningful" work is to come from? Are you to provide it
yourself, or, is it to be provided by someone else?

> According to the UN it is a fundamental human right to have meaningful
> work to do.

Fuck the UN. Commie arseholes.

> Did I mention anything about how one came about that work? No!

But you implied it.

> So climb off your high and mighty horse!

No. You provide an answer. Then we'll see who's on the high and mighty horse.

--
John B

From:	NOSPAM at NOSPAM.invalid.com
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:50:06 +1300

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:27:48 +1300, John B wrote:

>> Who was talking about being "owed" a "living"?
>
> Well explain where this "meaningful" work is to come from?

Why?

Does it matter where it "comes from"?

Surely the only thing that matters is that people actually have meaningful
work to do, rather than sitting around doing nothing.

Divine

--
"Installing and running Unix hardly counts as one of the more difficult
intellectual tasks. It's hard, sure, if you're used to something different,
but the description 'windows people' includes novelists, artists and nuclear
scientists who just don't give a damn about the stupid OS their computer
runs."

From:	grimly bubble
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:25:28 +1300

wrote in message
news:pan.2005.01.23.10.50.05.948434@TRACKER...
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:27:48 +1300, John B wrote:
>
> >> Who was talking about being "owed" a "living"?
> >
> > Well explain where this "meaningful" work is to come from?
>
> Why?
>
> Does it matter where it "comes from"?
>
> Surely the only thing that matters is that people actually have meaningful
> work to do, rather than sitting around doing nothing.
>
>
> Divine
>
> --
> "Installing and running Unix hardly counts as one of the more difficult
> intellectual tasks. It's hard, sure, if you're used to something
different,
> but the description 'windows people' includes novelists, artists and
nuclear
> scientists who just don't give a damn about the stupid OS their computer
> runs."

So if someone is sitting around doing nothing, why should anyone interfere
with that choice unless it costs them?
>

From:	Newsman
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:19:44 GMT

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:50:06 +1300, "NOSPAM@NOSPAM.invalid.com"
wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:27:48 +1300, John B wrote:
>
>>> Who was talking about being "owed" a "living"?
>>
>> Well explain where this "meaningful" work is to come from?
>
>Why?
>
>Does it matter where it "comes from"?
>
Not much.

What really matters is whether the work is sufficiently financially
rewarding to support that worker and that there is some hope that it
may be available for as long as the worker needs to earn from it.
Whilst stability in employment may not be a right as such, it can be
no bad thing either from the worker or the employer.

If the worker can find "meaning" in that same work then that's a
healthy bonus.

From:	grimly bubble
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:49:28 +1300

"Newsman" wrote in message
news:41f421ee.805250@news.actrix.co.nz...
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:50:06 +1300, "NOSPAM@NOSPAM.invalid.com"
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:27:48 +1300, John B wrote:
> >
> >>> Who was talking about being "owed" a "living"?
> >>
> >> Well explain where this "meaningful" work is to come from?
> >
> >Why?
> >
> >Does it matter where it "comes from"?
> >
> Not much.
>
> What really matters is whether the work is sufficiently financially
> rewarding to support that worker

Matters to who? Quite frankly I don't give a damn about whether someone
elses work is meaningful to them. The world is full of opportunity

and that there is some hope that it
> may be available for as long as the worker needs to earn from it.

Shit year, Government could legislate to keep forges and blacksmiths in
work.

> Whilst stability in employment may not be a right as such, it can be
> no bad thing either from the worker or the employer.

There is a natural stability in industry, the only time it gets out of
kilter is when other people, governments, decide they know what is best for
those involved.
>
> If the worker can find "meaning" in that same work then that's a
> healthy bonus.

The search for meaning in ones life has nothing whatever to do with an
employer.

From:	John B
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:27:08 +1300

From:	Tarla
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 06:58:35 +1300

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:50:06 +1300, "NOSPAM@NOSPAM.invalid.com"
wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:27:48 +1300, John B wrote:
>
>>> Who was talking about being "owed" a "living"?
>>
>> Well explain where this "meaningful" work is to come from?
>
>Why?
>
>Does it matter where it "comes from"?
>
>Surely the only thing that matters is that people actually have meaningful
>work to do, rather than sitting around doing nothing.

Surely if you're going to declare that people have a right to
meaningful work, then you should provide a means for that to occur.
--
Tarla
****
"Do moral values say when Jesus fed the poor,drove
the moneychangers from the temple,walked with lepers,
defended the harlot,and healed the sick, that he was
practicing wanton immoral liberalism?"
--John Cory

From:	NOSPAM at NOSPAM.invalid.com
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:44:29 +1300

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 06:58:35 +1300, Tarla wrote:

>>Surely the only thing that matters is that people actually have meaningful
>>work to do, rather than sitting around doing nothing.
>
> Surely if you're going to declare that people have a right to
> meaningful work, then you should provide a means for that to occur.

No - I do not have to provide any such thing!

Divine

--
"Installing and running Unix hardly counts as one of the more difficult
intellectual tasks. It's hard, sure, if you're used to something different,
but the description 'windows people' includes novelists, artists and nuclear
scientists who just don't give a damn about the stupid OS their computer
runs."

From:	grimly bubble
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:20:45 +1300

"Tarla" wrote in message
news:5dp7v01heep723fb3fnaie1fd25dh3nlpo@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:50:06 +1300, "NOSPAM@NOSPAM.invalid.com"
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:27:48 +1300, John B wrote:
> >
> >>> Who was talking about being "owed" a "living"?
> >>
> >> Well explain where this "meaningful" work is to come from?
> >
> >Why?
> >
> >Does it matter where it "comes from"?
> >
> >Surely the only thing that matters is that people actually have
meaningful
> >work to do, rather than sitting around doing nothing.
>
> Surely if you're going to declare that people have a right to
> meaningful work, then you should provide a means for that to occur.

Oh that's a different issue tarla, those people who bleat on about human
rights only see such rights directed one way. It may be considered a right
that a person benefits by their own efforts without Governments stealing
from them them to support their own vote buying agenda.

There are no rights, only privileges.
> --
> Tarla
> ****
> "Do moral values say when Jesus fed the poor,drove
> the moneychangers from the temple,walked with lepers,
> defended the harlot,and healed the sick, that he was
> practicing wanton immoral liberalism?"
> --John Cory

From:	Tarla
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:31:38 +1300

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:20:45 +1300, "grimly bubble"
wrote:

>
>"Tarla" wrote in message
>news:5dp7v01heep723fb3fnaie1fd25dh3nlpo@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:50:06 +1300, "NOSPAM@NOSPAM.invalid.com"
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:27:48 +1300, John B wrote:
>> >
>> >>> Who was talking about being "owed" a "living"?
>> >>
>> >> Well explain where this "meaningful" work is to come from?
>> >
>> >Why?
>> >
>> >Does it matter where it "comes from"?
>> >
>> >Surely the only thing that matters is that people actually have
>meaningful
>> >work to do, rather than sitting around doing nothing.
>>
>> Surely if you're going to declare that people have a right to
>> meaningful work, then you should provide a means for that to occur.
>
>Oh that's a different issue tarla, those people who bleat on about human
>rights only see such rights directed one way. It may be considered a right
>that a person benefits by their own efforts without Governments stealing
>from them them to support their own vote buying agenda.
>
>There are no rights, only privileges.

I find it a bit fatuous to declare that people have a right to
meaningful work. How meaningful is janitorial work? How meaningful is
ditch digging? ffs, it's the kind of (I hate to use liberal, because
it's not really) candy-ass psycho babble that makes true liberals look
bad.

From:	grimly bubble
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:39:35 +1300

"Tarla" wrote in message
news:lo58v056u2rp794oe32a8bu58i0q7io1ih@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:20:45 +1300, "grimly bubble"
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Tarla" wrote in message
> >news:5dp7v01heep723fb3fnaie1fd25dh3nlpo@4ax.com...
> >> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:50:06 +1300, "NOSPAM@NOSPAM.invalid.com"
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:27:48 +1300, John B wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>> Who was talking about being "owed" a "living"?
> >> >>
> >> >> Well explain where this "meaningful" work is to come from?
> >> >
> >> >Why?
> >> >
> >> >Does it matter where it "comes from"?
> >> >
> >> >Surely the only thing that matters is that people actually have
> >meaningful
> >> >work to do, rather than sitting around doing nothing.
> >>
> >> Surely if you're going to declare that people have a right to
> >> meaningful work, then you should provide a means for that to occur.
> >
> >Oh that's a different issue tarla, those people who bleat on about human
> >rights only see such rights directed one way. It may be considered a
right
> >that a person benefits by their own efforts without Governments stealing
> >from them them to support their own vote buying agenda.
> >
> >There are no rights, only privileges.
>
> I find it a bit fatuous to declare that people have a right to
> meaningful work. How meaningful is janitorial work? How meaningful is
> ditch digging? ffs, it's the kind of (I hate to use liberal, because
> it's not really) candy-ass psycho babble that makes true liberals look
> bad.

What is a true liberal in your view?

From:	Tarla
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:44:20 +1300

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:39:35 +1300, "grimly bubble"
wrote:

>
>"Tarla" wrote in message
>news:lo58v056u2rp794oe32a8bu58i0q7io1ih@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:20:45 +1300, "grimly bubble"
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Tarla" wrote in message
>> >news:5dp7v01heep723fb3fnaie1fd25dh3nlpo@4ax.com...
>> >> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:50:06 +1300, "NOSPAM@NOSPAM.invalid.com"
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:27:48 +1300, John B wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>> Who was talking about being "owed" a "living"?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Well explain where this "meaningful" work is to come from?
>> >> >
>> >> >Why?
>> >> >
>> >> >Does it matter where it "comes from"?
>> >> >
>> >> >Surely the only thing that matters is that people actually have
>> >meaningful
>> >> >work to do, rather than sitting around doing nothing.
>> >>
>> >> Surely if you're going to declare that people have a right to
>> >> meaningful work, then you should provide a means for that to occur.
>> >
>> >Oh that's a different issue tarla, those people who bleat on about human
>> >rights only see such rights directed one way. It may be considered a
>right
>> >that a person benefits by their own efforts without Governments stealing
>> >from them them to support their own vote buying agenda.
>> >
>> >There are no rights, only privileges.
>>
>> I find it a bit fatuous to declare that people have a right to
>> meaningful work. How meaningful is janitorial work? How meaningful is
>> ditch digging? ffs, it's the kind of (I hate to use liberal, because
>> it's not really) candy-ass psycho babble that makes true liberals look
>> bad.
>
>What is a true liberal in your view?

Someone who believes in the essential goodness of human beings. As
such they would support social freedom and civil rights, greater
individual participation in government, and an ethical business
policy.

From:	grimly bubble
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:06:26 +1300

"Tarla" wrote in message
news:vek8v0pqfugvvs57t8u15aelqt54t6n1tn@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:39:35 +1300, "grimly bubble"
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Tarla" wrote in message
> >news:lo58v056u2rp794oe32a8bu58i0q7io1ih@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:20:45 +1300, "grimly bubble"
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Tarla" wrote in message
> >> >news:5dp7v01heep723fb3fnaie1fd25dh3nlpo@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:50:06 +1300, "NOSPAM@NOSPAM.invalid.com"
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:27:48 +1300, John B wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>> Who was talking about being "owed" a "living"?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Well explain where this "meaningful" work is to come from?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Why?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Does it matter where it "comes from"?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Surely the only thing that matters is that people actually have
> >> >meaningful
> >> >> >work to do, rather than sitting around doing nothing.
> >> >>
> >> >> Surely if you're going to declare that people have a right to
> >> >> meaningful work, then you should provide a means for that to occur.
> >> >
> >> >Oh that's a different issue tarla, those people who bleat on about
human
> >> >rights only see such rights directed one way. It may be considered a
> >right
> >> >that a person benefits by their own efforts without Governments
stealing
> >> >from them them to support their own vote buying agenda.
> >> >
> >> >There are no rights, only privileges.
> >>
> >> I find it a bit fatuous to declare that people have a right to
> >> meaningful work. How meaningful is janitorial work? How meaningful is
> >> ditch digging? ffs, it's the kind of (I hate to use liberal, because
> >> it's not really) candy-ass psycho babble that makes true liberals look
> >> bad.
> >
> >What is a true liberal in your view?
>
>
> Someone who believes in the essential goodness of human beings.

Bit wishy washy for me, some people are just plainly not good.

> such they would support social freedom and civil rights, greater
> individual participation in government, and an ethical business
> policy.

It could be that people are divided into those who play at life and those
who watch. Those watching make the most racket and hold the most opinion.
Perhaps those playing are too busy trying to tune their ability to play, too
wise to suggest they know what is best for anyone other than themselves.

From:	NOSPAM at NOSPAM.invalid.com
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:57:29 +1300

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:20:45 +1300, grimly bubble wrote:

> There are no rights, only privileges.

Hmmm...

"It is a privilege to breath clean air".

"It is a privilege to live without fear".

"It is a privilege to have dry, warm, accomodation".

Bullshit! Those are all fundamental human rights.

With rights also come responsibilities.

Divine

--
"Installing and running Unix hardly counts as one of the more difficult
intellectual tasks. It's hard, sure, if you're used to something different,
but the description 'windows people' includes novelists, artists and nuclear
scientists who just don't give a damn about the stupid OS their computer
runs."

From:	John B
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:37:38 +1300

"grimly bubble" wrote in message
news:41f3e94f@clear.net.nz...
>
> "Tarla" wrote in message
> news:5dp7v01heep723fb3fnaie1fd25dh3nlpo@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:50:06 +1300, "NOSPAM@NOSPAM.invalid.com"
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:27:48 +1300, John B wrote:
> > >
> > >>> Who was talking about being "owed" a "living"?
> > >>
> > >> Well explain where this "meaningful" work is to come from?
> > >
> > >Why?
> > >
> > >Does it matter where it "comes from"?
> > >
> > >Surely the only thing that matters is that people actually have
> meaningful
> > >work to do, rather than sitting around doing nothing.
> >
> > Surely if you're going to declare that people have a right to
> > meaningful work, then you should provide a means for that to occur.
>
> Oh that's a different issue tarla, those people who bleat on about human
> rights only see such rights directed one way. It may be considered a right
> that a person benefits by their own efforts without Governments stealing
> from them them to support their own vote buying agenda.
>
> There are no rights, only privileges.

Dead right there. In fact, we are all lucky the govt lets us live at all. If it
weren't for their need of tax-slaves to keep them accustomed to their lifestyle,
we would be superfluous to their needs and very quickly disposed of.

--
John B

From:	grimly bubble
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:40:11 +1300

"John B" wrote in message
news:41f41920$1@clear.net.nz...
> "grimly bubble" wrote in message
> news:41f3e94f@clear.net.nz...
> >
> > "Tarla" wrote in message
> > news:5dp7v01heep723fb3fnaie1fd25dh3nlpo@4ax.com...
> > > On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:50:06 +1300, "NOSPAM@NOSPAM.invalid.com"
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:27:48 +1300, John B wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>> Who was talking about being "owed" a "living"?
> > > >>
> > > >> Well explain where this "meaningful" work is to come from?
> > > >
> > > >Why?
> > > >
> > > >Does it matter where it "comes from"?
> > > >
> > > >Surely the only thing that matters is that people actually have
> > meaningful
> > > >work to do, rather than sitting around doing nothing.
> > >
> > > Surely if you're going to declare that people have a right to
> > > meaningful work, then you should provide a means for that to occur.
> >
> > Oh that's a different issue tarla, those people who bleat on about human
> > rights only see such rights directed one way. It may be considered a
right
> > that a person benefits by their own efforts without Governments stealing
> > from them them to support their own vote buying agenda.
> >
> > There are no rights, only privileges.
>
> Dead right there. In fact, we are all lucky the govt lets us live at all.
If it
> weren't for their need of tax-slaves to keep them accustomed to their
lifestyle,
> we would be superfluous to their needs and very quickly disposed of.

See the euthanasia debate?!!
>
> --
> John B
>

From:	NOSPAM at NOSPAM.invalid.com
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:47:57 +1300

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:37:17 +1300, Mischief wrote:

> Is your employer rich?

All employers are "rich".

> What made him rich?

Ripping off other people!

Divine

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From:	Mischief
Subject:	Re: YEAH RIGHT !
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:24:05 +1300

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:46:38 +1300, Patrick FitzGerald
wrote:

>
>_______________________________________________
>
> " A C T T H E | Yeah
> |
> W O R K E R ' S | Right !
> |
> P A R T Y " |
> |
>
>
>
> Rodney Hide
>
>_______________________________________________________
>
>
>Patrick

Patrick, please . . . . .

What is "Working Class"?

Are you "Working Class"?

Do you work for wages?

What is your occupation?

Are you happy with your employer?

Are you nice to your employer?

Are you grateful that you have an employer that employs you?

Are you entitled to a job?

Is your employer rich?

What made him rich?

What are your aspirations?

Would you ever like to be rich?

Would you ever like to own a big business and employ a lot of working
class workers?

Would you like to own an aeroplane, a jet boat, and a 4 x 4 Fendalton
tractor?

Could you sustain a pretty blonde to do your shopping and spend you
money and decorate your 4 x 4?