Aspiringpsychopath wrote:

> Even to the arse holes, as they just can't help it..

You would have been better to make no mention of them......

But Happy New Year anyway.

From:	E. Scrooge
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sat, 1 Jan 2005 11:34:44 +1300

"Aspiringpsychopath" wrote in message
news:g3dat0to1j5uaq8lb02rp9abecnib54hsq@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> Even to the arse holes, as they just can't help it..

Looks like another year of crap.

E. Scrooge

From:	Aspiringpsychopath
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sat, 01 Jan 2005 11:39:44 +1300

On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 11:34:44 +1300, "E. Scrooge" (*sling)> wrote:

>
>"Aspiringpsychopath" wrote in message
>news:g3dat0to1j5uaq8lb02rp9abecnib54hsq@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> Even to the arse holes, as they just can't help it..
>
>Looks like another year of crap.
>
>E. Scrooge
>

From All your Posts it is..

From:	wogers nemesis
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sat, 1 Jan 2005 01:09:02 +1300

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 00:15:53 +1300, Aspiringpsychopath wrote:

> Even to the arse holes, as they just can't help it..

So is that the first flame of the year too?

From:	Aspiringpsychopath
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sat, 01 Jan 2005 01:31:37 +1300

On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 01:09:02 +1300, wogers nemesis wrote:

>On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 00:15:53 +1300, Aspiringpsychopath wrote:
>
>> Even to the arse holes, as they just can't help it..
>
>So is that the first flame of the year too?

No ! if the Cap fits ware it..

From:	-=[Waylon Smithers]=-
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sat, 01 Jan 2005 09:19:21 +1300

>>>Even to the arse holes, as they just can't help it..
>>
>>So is that the first flame of the year too?
> No ! if the Cap fits ware it..

Posting at 1.31am on New Years Day.

Surrounded by all of your friends again, WOger ?

From:	Aspiringpsychopath
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sat, 01 Jan 2005 10:17:45 +1300

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 09:19:21 +1300, "-=[Waylon Smithers]=-"
wrote:

>>>>Even to the arse holes, as they just can't help it..
>>>
>>>So is that the first flame of the year too?
>> No ! if the Cap fits ware it..
>
>Posting at 1.31am on New Years Day.
>
>Surrounded by all of your friends again, WOger ?

Yes they are all here..

From:	-=[Waylon Smithers]=-
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sat, 01 Jan 2005 10:57:40 +1300

>>Posting at 1.31am on New Years Day.
>>
>>Surrounded by all of your friends again, WOger ?
>
> Yes they are all here..

Uh huh. Remember imaginary ones don't count.

Posting at 1.30am New Years Day = being on the computer = looks like a
pretty lonely life chum.

From:	Aspiringpsychopath
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sat, 01 Jan 2005 11:38:50 +1300

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 10:57:40 +1300, "-=[Waylon Smithers]=-"
wrote:

>>>Posting at 1.31am on New Years Day.
>>>
>>>Surrounded by all of your friends again, WOger ?
>>
>> Yes they are all here..
>
>Uh huh. Remember imaginary ones don't count.
>
>Posting at 1.30am New Years Day = being on the computer = looks like a
>pretty lonely life chum.

Computer Crashed and had to fix it..

From:	David Preece
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sat, 01 Jan 2005 19:18:47 +1300

Aspiringpsychopath wrote:
> Computer Crashed and had to fix it..

Because at quarter past midnight on new years eve your personal desktop
computer was running a $1M/hr eCommerce site? Or perhaps performing a
central role in tsunami relief?

And this is the same computer that has all quality components - no
Crap(tm)? All good Intel stuff and none of the AMD toss? Maintained by
your good self, I take it?

Aha.

Dave

From:	Aspiringpsychopath
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:05:29 +1300

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 19:18:47 +1300, David Preece
wrote:

>Aspiringpsychopath wrote:
>> Computer Crashed and had to fix it..
>
>Because at quarter past midnight on new years eve your personal desktop
>computer was running a $1M/hr eCommerce site? Or perhaps performing a
>central role in tsunami relief?
>
>And this is the same computer that has all quality components - no
>Crap(tm)? All good Intel stuff and none of the AMD toss? Maintained by
>your good self, I take it?
>
>Aha.
>
>Dave

Yes but you forgot to mention Crap software and Drivers..

I was using a Beta 3D Driver and my CPU is New, so far have replaced the
Video driver to see how that goes and praying that the CPU is not the problem.

Computer before has been stable for some months..

From:	David Preece
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:21:11 +1300

Aspiringpsychopath wrote:
> Yes but you forgot to mention Crap software and Drivers..
>
> I was using a Beta 3D Driver

Ah.

> and my CPU is New

I've heard legends of CPU's that have tiny cracks in such that they only
open up when it gets hot. Have you tried running Prime 95 or some
similar CPU only torture test on it for a few hours?

> praying that the CPU is not the problem.

Yeah, quite. Be a real shit to get another one. "Please replace my CPU,
Windows keeps crashing". Hmmmm.

Did you change the FSB for the new processor? Changed memory speeds?
Perhaps the RAM is having a sense of humour failure - more than one stick?

Dave

From:	Aspiringpsychopath
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sat, 01 Jan 2005 22:04:21 +1300

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:21:11 +1300, David Preece
wrote:

>Aspiringpsychopath wrote:
>> Yes but you forgot to mention Crap software and Drivers..
>>
>> I was using a Beta 3D Driver
>
>Ah.
>
>> and my CPU is New
>
>I've heard legends of CPU's that have tiny cracks in such that they only
> open up when it gets hot. Have you tried running Prime 95 or some
>similar CPU only torture test on it for a few hours?
>
>> praying that the CPU is not the problem.
>
>Yeah, quite. Be a real shit to get another one. "Please replace my CPU,
>Windows keeps crashing". Hmmmm.
>
>Did you change the FSB for the new processor? Changed memory speeds?
>Perhaps the RAM is having a sense of humour failure - more than one stick?
>
>Dave

No, no change at all, stock speeds and running 2 x 512 Dual Channel.

I need a CPU test program that runs from a boot disk, does Prime 95 do that..?

No drivers to get in the way etc..

From:	David Preece
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sat, 01 Jan 2005 22:17:39 +1300

Aspiringpsychopath wrote:
> I need a CPU test program that runs from a boot disk, does Prime 95 do that..?

Not as far as I know - you could attempt to find some old school
mandelbrot code (google for fractint) then put it on a freedos disk I
suppose. But Prime95 doesn't excercise the drivers at all - it just
wedges numbers through the processor.

Are you getting bluescreens? Does it say which module it crashed in?

Dave

From:	Aspiringpsychopath
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sat, 01 Jan 2005 23:34:18 +1300

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 22:17:39 +1300, David Preece
wrote:

>Aspiringpsychopath wrote:
>> I need a CPU test program that runs from a boot disk, does Prime 95 do that..?
>
>Not as far as I know - you could attempt to find some old school
>mandelbrot code (google for fractint) then put it on a freedos disk I
>suppose. But Prime95 doesn't excercise the drivers at all - it just
>wedges numbers through the processor.
>
>Are you getting bluescreens? Does it say which module it crashed in?
>
>Dave

Black Screen, HD Led hard on, had to crash out..

Last night I ended up stuffing up some files on my XP CD due to crashing out,
even the Volume label was damaged..?

Fixed those with a DOS boot Floppy and Scandisk, gee lots of errors bad Fat
tables etc, ended up with 86 extra Directories an a stack of recovered files.

I then did a XP repair, that was a quick one that only lasted a few Mins, the
PC then booted OK, if it still happens I will do a Clean Install of XP.

The after looking at the Extra Directories/File deleted the lot.

Room was a bit hot 27c from memory, but the CPU was not showing hot, it even
locked up again today when I was out and the room was a lot cooler, same
symptoms as before, but no file damage this time..

I have now replaced the Video driver to a Nvidia WHQL one.

5v & 12V PSU lines have been tested with a DVM., have not checked the 3v,
but Fanspeed list it as OK.

I did find a old Y2000 Quicktech diagnostic DOS program that has a CPU burn
in test, I might leave it running tonight, but it might not stress the CPU..

I Used a SMART program and Fanspeed, they do not show any real HD problems.

From:	David Preece
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sun, 02 Jan 2005 08:14:39 +1300

Aspiringpsychopath wrote:
> Black Screen, HD Led hard on

Holy shit.

> Fixed those with a DOS boot Floppy and Scandisk, gee lots of errors bad Fat
> tables etc

Not wishing to crow but you simply wouldn't get this with NTFS. It's
designed, from the ground up, to have the power pulled on it. Where
power pulled means "instructions just stop arriving at the disk",
regardles of whether or not it was caused by a pulled power cable or the
CPU losing the plot suddenly.

> Room was a bit hot 27c from memory, but the CPU was not showing hot

That shouldn't have been a problem, even for a Prescott. Using the stock
cooler? Besides, the BIOS will shut the machine down in a (semi)
controlled fashion if it gets too hot.

> it even
> locked up again today when I was out and the room was a lot cooler, same
> symptoms as before

Hmmmm.

> I have now replaced the Video driver to a Nvidia WHQL one.

Good idea, although I'd be surprised if it was even possible for a
driver to completely blackscreen something - and even more surprised if
it was an nVidia driver that did it.

The next most obvious thing to do is roll back to the old processor, I
suspect you have a duff one. If you do rebuild XP think seriously about
using NTFS, it *is* a lot safer.

Dave

From:	Bok
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sun, 02 Jan 2005 20:29:05 +1300

David Preece wrote:
> Not wishing to crow but you simply wouldn't get this with NTFS. It's
> designed, from the ground up, to have the power pulled on it. Where
> power pulled means "instructions just stop arriving at the disk",
> regardles of whether or not it was caused by a pulled power cable or the
> CPU losing the plot suddenly.

Correct, but be aware that NTFS meta-data can become corrupted due to
lost writes incurred by disk controller 'write back caching' if the
controller firmware doesn't observe 'write through' requests (SCSI FUA).

From:	Aspiringpsychopath
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sun, 02 Jan 2005 12:31:48 +1300

On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 08:14:39 +1300, David Preece
wrote:

>Aspiringpsychopath wrote:
>> Black Screen, HD Led hard on
>
>Holy shit.
>
>> Fixed those with a DOS boot Floppy and Scandisk, gee lots of errors bad Fat
>> tables etc
>
>Not wishing to crow but you simply wouldn't get this with NTFS. It's
>designed, from the ground up, to have the power pulled on it. Where
>power pulled means "instructions just stop arriving at the disk",
>regardles of whether or not it was caused by a pulled power cable or the
>CPU losing the plot suddenly.
>
>> Room was a bit hot 27c from memory, but the CPU was not showing hot
>
>That shouldn't have been a problem, even for a Prescott. Using the stock
>cooler? Besides, the BIOS will shut the machine down in a (semi)
>controlled fashion if it gets too hot.
>
>> it even
>> locked up again today when I was out and the room was a lot cooler, same
>> symptoms as before
>
>Hmmmm.
>
>> I have now replaced the Video driver to a Nvidia WHQL one.
>
>Good idea, although I'd be surprised if it was even possible for a
>driver to completely blackscreen something - and even more surprised if
>it was an nVidia driver that did it.
>
>The next most obvious thing to do is roll back to the old processor, I
>suspect you have a duff one. If you do rebuild XP think seriously about
>using NTFS, it *is* a lot safer.
>
>Dave

Well sold the old CPU to a friend, Use FAT due to it being a Dual boot system
with Win98se

Ran the FULL version of HOT CPU last night for some hours Diagnostic mode, no
problems cpu got to 56c.

CPU is a new Boxed Northwood 3.2g, preferred this due to the heat problems
in the room and the problem with Prescott, like more heat and more power with
very little improvements.

Yes stock Fan/Heatsink, idle temp around 36c-40c..

I was getting a lot of no responding things days before this all happend and
found 2 viruses but I don't think they were working..

CPU Temp was OK at that time..

From:	David Preece
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:40:54 +1300

Aspiringpsychopath wrote:
> Well sold the old CPU to a friend, Use FAT due to it being a Dual boot system
> with Win98se

Well, if a rebuild is looking in order then maybe it's time to ditch 98.
Even *I* ditched 98.

> I was getting a lot of no responding things days before this all happend and
> found 2 viruses but I don't think they were working..

Euuwww. Hold old's the motherboard - maybe something's buggered up
there? Are all the cards seated properly? I've had some issues with this
in the past too. Possibly you have something nasty in your swap file.
Also, are you using a disk >137GB because there can be some driver
issues although IIRC these were cleaned up for SP1.

Other than that, I dunno.

Dave

From:	Aspiringpsychopath
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sun, 02 Jan 2005 21:02:47 +1300

On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:40:54 +1300, David Preece
wrote:

>Aspiringpsychopath wrote:
>> Well sold the old CPU to a friend, Use FAT due to it being a Dual boot system
>> with Win98se
>
>Well, if a rebuild is looking in order then maybe it's time to ditch 98.
>Even *I* ditched 98.

Not every thing will run under XP.

>> I was getting a lot of no responding things days before this all happend and
>> found 2 viruses but I don't think they were working..
>
>Euuwww. Hold old's the motherboard - maybe something's buggered up
>there? Are all the cards seated properly? I've had some issues with this
>in the past too. Possibly you have something nasty in your swap file.
>Also, are you using a disk >137GB because there can be some driver
>issues although IIRC these were cleaned up for SP1.
>
>Other than that, I dunno.
>
>Dave

Yes Gigabyte i875 MoBo 1 year old, 420w Thermaltake PSU 1 year old.

2 x 512megs PC3500 Kingmax DDR Rams.

2 x 120g Seacrate hard drives.

After running lots of things even PRIME95, I had to reboot to run a Floppy
program, after that Scandisk came up with stacks or errors..???

I am Running Active SMART and it list T.E.C. one drive life as Jan 2005 and
the other March 2005, but I do not understand the SMART errors at all, I have
done lots of searches in the past and just got utterly confused.

SMART predictions only work after monitoring for some time I have read.

The SMART bar graphs are ok and drives show as OK except for the T.E.C.
date.

Drives run nice and cool (30c) 120mm fan in front of them..

From:	Unknown
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sun, 02 Jan 2005 12:46:35 +0000

On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 12:31:48 +1300, Aspiringpsychopath wrote:

> On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 08:14:39 +1300, David Preece
> wrote:
>
>>Aspiringpsychopath wrote:
>>> Black Screen, HD Led hard on
>>
>>Holy shit.
>>
>>> Fixed those with a DOS boot Floppy and Scandisk, gee lots of errors bad Fat
>>> tables etc
>>
>>Not wishing to crow but you simply wouldn't get this with NTFS. It's
>>designed, from the ground up, to have the power pulled on it. Where
>>power pulled means "instructions just stop arriving at the disk",
>>regardles of whether or not it was caused by a pulled power cable or the
>>CPU losing the plot suddenly.
>>
>>> Room was a bit hot 27c from memory, but the CPU was not showing hot
>>
>>That shouldn't have been a problem, even for a Prescott. Using the stock
>>cooler? Besides, the BIOS will shut the machine down in a (semi)
>>controlled fashion if it gets too hot.
>>
>>> it even
>>> locked up again today when I was out and the room was a lot cooler, same
>>> symptoms as before
>>
>>Hmmmm.
>>
>>> I have now replaced the Video driver to a Nvidia WHQL one.
>>
>>Good idea, although I'd be surprised if it was even possible for a
>>driver to completely blackscreen something - and even more surprised if
>>it was an nVidia driver that did it.
>>
>>The next most obvious thing to do is roll back to the old processor, I
>>suspect you have a duff one. If you do rebuild XP think seriously about
>>using NTFS, it *is* a lot safer.
>>
>>Dave
>
>
> Well sold the old CPU to a friend, Use FAT due to it being a Dual boot system
> with Win98se
>
Just because one partition has to be FAT32 doesnt mean all of them do
of course using other file systems will prevent win98 from being able to
read the non FAT32 (or FAT16 ) partition

> Ran the FULL version of HOT CPU last night for some hours Diagnostic
> mode, no problems cpu got to 56c.
>
>
> CPU is a new Boxed Northwood 3.2g, preferred this due to the heat
> problems in the room and the problem with Prescott, like more heat and
> more power with very little improvements.
>
> Yes stock Fan/Heatsink, idle temp around 36c-40c..
>
>
> I was getting a lot of no responding things days before this all
> happend and found 2 viruses but I don't think they were working..
>
> CPU Temp was OK at that time..

--
Many are cold, but few are frozen.

From:	Aspiringpsychopath
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sat, 01 Jan 2005 22:07:54 +1300

From:	Invisible
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sat, 01 Jan 2005 11:15:12 +1300

From:	Chris Mayhew
Subject:	Re: Well A HAPPY NEW YEAR to you ALL
Date:	Sat, 01 Jan 2005 13:09:56 +1300

Aspiringpsychopath wrote:
>
>
> Even to the arse holes, as they just can't help it..
>
>
LOL, the first post I read in the New Year, and I find my self agreeing
with you.

Good one, and Happy New Year to you Roger

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