The larger of my two HDDs seems to be having a problem.

I am running WinXP SP2

In My Computer I am now seeing an extra HDD. I have two HDDs. The main one
is ntfs and I have my OS on this. The seocnd is Fat32 and I currently have
nothing on this. But I am seeing three HDDs reported. I have not partitioned
either...

The main HDD is being reported as Bad in Partition Magic 8.

The extra HDD is reprted in WinXP as being unformated (RAW). But I can't
format it.

My system is working fine but I am interested in exploring some dual boot
options and this error seems to be screwing that up.

Any ideas. questions?

Ferg

From:	#
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:07:42 +1300

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:48:40 +1300, Ferg wrote:

> Any ideas. questions?
>
> Ferg

What size are the HDD's in question, and what jumper/cable configuration
are you running?

From:	Ferg
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:30:18 +1300

"#" <911@numbers.for.you> wrote in message
news:1aqsff1kcvmjh.1iafc3ymzi5ei$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:48:40 +1300, Ferg wrote:

> What size are the HDD's in question, and what jumper/cable configuration
> are you running?

80Gb Primary Master (the one showing as Bad in PMagic) with my OS on.
40Gb Secondary Master
DVD-rw Secondary Slave

Ferg

From:	BIG Bear at bearcat.com.au
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:52:59 +1300

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:30:18 +1300, "Ferg" wrote:

>
>"#" <911@numbers.for.you> wrote in message
>news:1aqsff1kcvmjh.1iafc3ymzi5ei$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:48:40 +1300, Ferg wrote:
>
>> What size are the HDD's in question, and what jumper/cable configuration
>> are you running?
>
>80Gb Primary Master (the one showing as Bad in PMagic) with my OS on.
>40Gb Secondary Master
>DVD-rw Secondary Slave
>
>Ferg
>

What does Scandisk or Nortons say..?

May be try a recover Utile like Spinrite 6 or HD Regenerator..

What was use to Format the drive..?

Was it like this from day one, or has this happened over some time.

From:	Bok
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:01:34 +1300

Ferg wrote:
> The larger of my two HDDs seems to be having a problem.
>
> I am running WinXP SP2
>
> In My Computer I am now seeing an extra HDD. I have two HDDs. The main one
> is ntfs and I have my OS on this. The seocnd is Fat32 and I currently have
> nothing on this. But I am seeing three HDDs reported. I have not partitioned
> either...
> The main HDD is being reported as Bad in Partition Magic 8.
> The extra HDD is reprted in WinXP as being unformated (RAW). But I can't
> format it.
>
> My system is working fine but I am interested in exploring some dual boot
> options and this error seems to be screwing that up.
> Any ideas. questions?

What does it look like in the XP 'Disk Management' tool?

If you bring that up you should see two physical disks: Disk 0 and Disk
1 and overlayed on them any partitions and logical drives.

From:	Ferg
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:33:27 +1300

"Bok" wrote in message news:41f17ba4$1@clear.net.nz...

> What does it look like in the XP 'Disk Management' tool?
>
> If you bring that up you should see two physical disks: Disk 0 and Disk 1
> and overlayed on them any partitions and logical drives.

The exta drive doesn't show in Disk Management. Just has Disk 0 and 1 with
one partition on each...

Ferg

From:	Bok
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:45:40 +1300

Ferg wrote:
>>What does it look like in the XP 'Disk Management' tool?
>>
>>If you bring that up you should see two physical disks: Disk 0 and Disk 1
>>and overlayed on them any partitions and logical drives.

> The exta drive doesn't show in Disk Management. Just has Disk 0 and 1 with
> one partition on each...
Where are you seeing this 'phantom drive'?
If it appears in explorer with a drive letter, can you right click and
select properties?
If so what is the drive type and file system?

From:	BIG Bear at bearcat.com.au
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:17:12 +1300

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:45:40 +1300, Bok wrote:

>Ferg wrote:
>>>What does it look like in the XP 'Disk Management' tool?
>>>
>>>If you bring that up you should see two physical disks: Disk 0 and Disk 1
>>>and overlayed on them any partitions and logical drives.
>
>> The exta drive doesn't show in Disk Management. Just has Disk 0 and 1 with
>> one partition on each...
>Where are you seeing this 'phantom drive'?
>If it appears in explorer with a drive letter, can you right click and
>select properties?
>If so what is the drive type and file system?

PQ Magic will show phantom drives

From:	Ferg
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:48:33 +1300

wrote in message
news:7r63v05qjdqv87tt9kettddjnmpakmomcu@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:45:40 +1300, Bok wrote:

> PQ Magic will show phantom drives

PQ Partition Magic shows the whole Disk 0 as bad. All yellow!

Ferg

From:	GraB
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:16:02 +1300

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:48:33 +1300, "Ferg" wrote:

>
> wrote in message
>news:7r63v05qjdqv87tt9kettddjnmpakmomcu@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:45:40 +1300, Bok wrote:
>
>> PQ Magic will show phantom drives
>
>PQ Partition Magic shows the whole Disk 0 as bad. All yellow!
>
>Ferg
>
This is exactly what I had with one drive I had if you used the whole
available space. If I remade it with a few megs spare on the end for
some reason it would be OK.

I use System Commander 8.1. When PM8 shows all yellow the
partitioning utility in System Commander can still deal with it.

From:	Ferg
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:23:16 +1300

"GraB" wrote in message
news:io94v0pgl261cgm2k6n216tls85oe36ksc@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:48:33 +1300, "Ferg" wrote:
> I use System Commander 8.1. When PM8 shows all yellow the
> partitioning utility in System Commander can still deal with it.

Tried System Commander.

It freezes saying, "Analysing Drives" or something like that. And when I try
to boot my OS it says there are bad sectors. I have to ignore two and then I
can boot...

I am afraid to remove it now in case I won't e able to boot again...

I think I will have to copy all my data to the other drive and reformat and
reinstall.

Ferg

From:	impossible
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:38:46 -0500

"Ferg" wrote in message
news:35e0oiF4l265aU1@individual.net...
>
> wrote in message
> news:7r63v05qjdqv87tt9kettddjnmpakmomcu@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:45:40 +1300, Bok wrote:
>
>> PQ Magic will show phantom drives
>
> PQ Partition Magic shows the whole Disk 0 as bad. All yellow!
>
> Ferg
>

When you say PM is "all yellow", I assume you're referring to the main drive
display window. But in itself that does relate to the drive being bad in any
way -- it just means that the disk space is currently all being used.

What error code is PM showing? You can go here...

http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/npmagic/npmagic_8_tasks.html

....and search for "error messages", which will bring up a whole directory of
codes. That might give you a better clue.

From:	impossible
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:42:30 -0500

"impossible" wrote in message
news:35fac3F4lvpb9U1@individual.net...

> When you say PM is "all yellow", I assume you're referring to the main
> drive display window. But in itself that does relate to the drive being
> bad in any way -- it just means that the disk space is currently all being
> used.
>

Make that:

"....But in itself that does NOT relate to the drive being bad in any way --
it just means that the disk space is currently all being used."

From:	Ferg
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:47:47 +1300

"Bok" wrote in message news:41f185f9$1@clear.net.nz...
> Ferg wrote:

> If so what is the drive type and file system?

Local Disk

RAW

Ferg

From:	Mercury
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:46:57 +1300

Do you have a usb or dvd-rw drive?

"Ferg" wrote in message
news:35df4lF4i3860U1@individual.net...
>
> "Bok" wrote in message
> news:41f185f9$1@clear.net.nz...
>> Ferg wrote:
>
>> If so what is the drive type and file system?
>
> Local Disk
>
> RAW
>
> Ferg
>

From:	Ferg
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:45:46 +1300

"Mercury" wrote in message
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> Do you have a usb or dvd-rw drive?

I have a dvd-rw drive. What's the story?

Ferg

From:	Mercury
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:05:49 +1300

my logic was that you could have had a raw dvd or usb disc present...

"Ferg" wrote in message
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>
> "Mercury" wrote in message
> news:css3uk$hia$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> Do you have a usb or dvd-rw drive?
>
> I have a dvd-rw drive. What's the story?
>
> Ferg
>

From:	Ferg
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:26:45 +1300

"Mercury" wrote in message
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> my logic was that you could have had a raw dvd or usb disc present...

Unfortunately it is saying its a local disk not removable storage...

I have just tried Seagate's own disk utility and it is saying my Disk 0 has
problems...

Ferg

From:	Mercury
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:38:17 +1300

rescue data and replace?

"Ferg" wrote in message
news:35e306F4k3il7U1@individual.net...
>
> "Mercury" wrote in message
> news:cssj3u$rae$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> my logic was that you could have had a raw dvd or usb disc present...
>
> Unfortunately it is saying its a local disk not removable storage...
>
> I have just tried Seagate's own disk utility and it is saying my Disk 0
> has problems...
>
> Ferg
>

From:	impossible
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:41:04 -0500

"Ferg" wrote in message
news:35e306F4k3il7U1@individual.net...
>
> "Mercury" wrote in message
> news:cssj3u$rae$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> my logic was that you could have had a raw dvd or usb disc present...
>
> Unfortunately it is saying its a local disk not removable storage...
>
> I have just tried Seagate's own disk utility and it is saying my Disk 0
> has problems...
>

What exactly does it say?

From:	GraB
Subject:	Re: HDD problem
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:54:09 +1300

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:48:40 +1300, "Ferg" wrote:

>The larger of my two HDDs seems to be having a problem.
>
>I am running WinXP SP2
>
>In My Computer I am now seeing an extra HDD. I have two HDDs. The main one
>is ntfs and I have my OS on this. The seocnd is Fat32 and I currently have
>nothing on this. But I am seeing three HDDs reported. I have not partitioned
>either...
>
>The main HDD is being reported as Bad in Partition Magic 8.
>
>The extra HDD is reprted in WinXP as being unformated (RAW). But I can't
>format it.
>
>My system is working fine but I am interested in exploring some dual boot
>options and this error seems to be screwing that up.
>
>Any ideas. questions?
>
>Ferg
>
I vaguely remember having something like this ages ago, which took
Norton Disk Doctor to fix. Other than that I would suggest redoing
the partition on the second drive.

I have had a drive that when you used the whole amount of the drive
you got that error show up in PM8 (DOS floppy version). For some
reason if I left about 2.5megs free at the end it would be alright.