 | | From: | Look4broadband | | Subject: | 1890 + 0818 Tele Phone numbers | | Date: | Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:57:51 -0000 |
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 | Sorry first for the cross posting but I think this topic is relvent to both
groups.
I came across a UK site www.saynoto0870.com which to me is what some of us
should be doing on this side of the pond as more and more services are using
0818 & 1890 numbers. These numbers are excluded by ALL telephone providers
form inclusive free monthly minutes. e.g.. Euphony 10 euros a month for all
local & national calls it dose not include 0818 & 189* numbers. The Same
goes for Chorus phone, Esat BT, Eircom Talk Time, UTV Talk Now, etc.
BTW 0818 is charged at National Rate which means that if some business in
your local area decides to use an 0818 number you will be charged National
Rate to phone not local rate. National rate is 8.17cent per minute day time,
local rate is 4.92cent if you are not on any free minute plan. And also a
provider of an 0818 & 189* number gets paid a percentage of the cost of the
call in other words if you dial one of these numbers they are making money
from you as long as they keep you talking.
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| | From: | James | | Subject: | Re: 1890 + 0818 Tele Phone numbers | | Date: | Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:14:16 -0000 |
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| "Look4broadband" wrote
> I came across a UK site www.saynoto0870.com which to me is what some of us
> should be doing on this side of the pond as more and more services are
> using
> 0818 & 1890 numbers. These numbers are excluded by ALL telephone providers
> form inclusive free monthly minutes. e.g.. Euphony 10 euros a month for
> all
> local & national calls it dose not include 0818 & 189* numbers. The Same
> goes for Chorus phone, Esat BT, Eircom Talk Time, UTV Talk Now, etc.
> BTW 0818 is charged at National Rate which means that if some business in
> your local area decides to use an 0818 number you will be charged National
> Rate to phone not local rate. National rate is 8.17cent per minute day
> time,
> local rate is 4.92cent if you are not on any free minute plan. And also a
> provider of an 0818 & 189* number gets paid a percentage of the cost of
> the
> call in other words if you dial one of these numbers they are making money
> from you as long as they keep you talking.
1890 are charged at local rate but I couldn't agree more about 0818 numbers,
in fact the first thing I do in dealing with such a company is try and get a
'normal' number off them.
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| | From: | Look4broadband | | Subject: | Re: 1890 + 0818 Tele Phone numbers | | Date: | Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:31:58 -0000 |
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"James" wrote in message
news:VxOEd.45389$Z14.24147@news.indigo.ie...
> "Look4broadband" wrote
> > I came across a UK site www.saynoto0870.com which to me is what some of
us
> > should be doing on this side of the pond as more and more services are
> > using
> > 0818 & 1890 numbers. These numbers are excluded by ALL telephone
providers
> > form inclusive free monthly minutes. e.g.. Euphony 10 euros a month for
> > all
> > local & national calls it dose not include 0818 & 189* numbers. The Same
> > goes for Chorus phone, Esat BT, Eircom Talk Time, UTV Talk Now, etc.
> > BTW 0818 is charged at National Rate which means that if some business
in
> > your local area decides to use an 0818 number you will be charged
National
> > Rate to phone not local rate. National rate is 8.17cent per minute day
> > time,
> > local rate is 4.92cent if you are not on any free minute plan. And also
a
> > provider of an 0818 & 189* number gets paid a percentage of the cost of
> > the
> > call in other words if you dial one of these numbers they are making
money
> > from you as long as they keep you talking.
>
> 1890 are charged at local rate but I couldn't agree more about 0818
numbers,
> in fact the first thing I do in dealing with such a company is try and get
a
> 'normal' number off them.
>
I do agree that 1890 is charged at local rate but it is not included in any
service providers offerings and the owner does get commission from people
using it.
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| | From: | James | | Subject: | Re: 1890 + 0818 Tele Phone numbers | | Date: | Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:58:31 -0000 |
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| "Look4broadband" wrote
> I do agree that 1890 is charged at local rate but it is not included in
> any
> service providers offerings and the owner does get commission from people
> using it.
I believe it's the opposite and the owner pays Eircom the balance of the
call cost if it's really a National call and the caller only pays the local
call rate. Locall 1890 was designed for companies & government departments
to allow someone anywhere in Ireland to call them for the price of a local
call. RTE use it a lot for their call-in radio programs. The company or
government department then actually pay Eircom the balance of the cost of
the call if the local rate does not cover it. This is described on
Eircom's website where they also describe how companies can make revenue out
of 0818 numbers.
From Eircom's website (search for National Freefone):
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Eircom National Freefone
Choose from
Freefone 1800 lets customers call you from anywhere in Ireland, free of
charge.
Callsave 1850 numbers can be dialled across Ireland: callers pay just 6.35c
(inc. VAT) from a landline, while you pay the balance.
Locall 1890 lets customers call you from anywhere in Ireland for the price
of a local call, while you pay the balance.
Nationalcall 0818 means callers pay for the total call cost at national
rates. High call volumes mean you earn revenue from calls you receive.
Shortcall 1800 is suitable if you receive large volumes of short duration
calls to your 1800 number.
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| | From: | Look4broadband | | Subject: | Re: 1890 + 0818 Tele Phone numbers | | Date: | Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:15:29 -0000 |
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"James" wrote in message
news:obPEd.45391$Z14.24330@news.indigo.ie...
> "Look4broadband" wrote
> > I do agree that 1890 is charged at local rate but it is not included in
> > any
> > service providers offerings and the owner does get commission from
people
> > using it.
>
> I believe it's the opposite and the owner pays Eircom the balance of the
> call cost if it's really a National call and the caller only pays the
local
> call rate. Locall 1890 was designed for companies & government
departments
> to allow someone anywhere in Ireland to call them for the price of a local
> call. RTE use it a lot for their call-in radio programs. The company
or
> government department then actually pay Eircom the balance of the cost of
> the call if the local rate does not cover it. This is described on
> Eircom's website where they also describe how companies can make revenue
out
> of 0818 numbers.
>
> From Eircom's website (search for National Freefone):
>
> ====================================================
> Eircom National Freefone
>
> Choose from
> Freefone 1800 lets customers call you from anywhere in Ireland, free of
> charge.
>
> Callsave 1850 numbers can be dialled across Ireland: callers pay just
6.35c
> (inc. VAT) from a landline, while you pay the balance.
>
> Locall 1890 lets customers call you from anywhere in Ireland for the price
> of a local call, while you pay the balance.
>
> Nationalcall 0818 means callers pay for the total call cost at national
> rates. High call volumes mean you earn revenue from calls you receive.
>
> Shortcall 1800 is suitable if you receive large volumes of short duration
> calls to your 1800 number.
> ====================================================
You are correct James as is the Eircom web site if the person who has the
number are stupid enough to use eircom as their service provider. If they
use another provider such as Smart or Esat etc. the call charges are much
lower and the owner of the 1890 number gets the balance from their provider.
Even the Government don't use Eircom as their Telco provider.
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| | From: | Ulick Magee | | Subject: | Re: 1890 + 0818 Tele Phone numbers | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:18:28 +0000 |
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| Look4broadband wrote:
> Even the Government don't use Eircom as their Telco provider.
That's bollocks.
U
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| | From: | Des O'Donoghue | | Subject: | Re: 1890 + 0818 Tele Phone numbers | | Date: | Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:57:03 +0000 |
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| Look4broadband wrote:
> Even the Government don't use Eircom as their Telco provider.
I'd say you should check that statement out again - the Gov certainly
use Eircom as one of their voice providers and eircom is the primary
data provider/
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