Trevor Rann wrote:
> Hi all
>
> What is the best way to deploy the new runtime in a network
> environment.
>
> Regards
> Trevor

Trevor,

The run time installer could be placed in a central location and each user
told to run it. Or, if your network has the tools (I know Novell does and I
am pretty sure MS does, too), your network admininstrator can install
software on any or all client PCs automatically.

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From:	Trevor
Subject:	Re: Deploy 2.5 Runtime
Date:	Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:50:39 +1100

Thanks Geoff, is there a separate runtime installer with 2.5? I have
extracted the (80Mb) download and there doesn't seem to be a
dbaseruntimeengine.exe.

Thanks

Regards
Trevor

From:	Geoff Wass
Subject:	Re: Deploy 2.5 Runtime
Date:	Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:40:37 -0500

Trevor wrote:
> Thanks Geoff, is there a separate runtime installer with 2.5? I have
> extracted the (80Mb) download and there doesn't seem to be a
> dbaseruntimeengine.exe.
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
> Trevor

Trevor,

I would guess that there will be one eventually.

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From:	Trevor Rann
Subject:	Re: Deploy 2.5 Runtime
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 2004 22:30:51 +1100

> I would guess that there will be one eventually.
>
Thank's Geoff
I suspect that I didn't make myself quite clear. I have a particular
client who depends heavily on an application I have written. There are
15 users and the app is critical to the companies operations. I now
understand that the "stand alone" runtime is not yet available so I
decided to manually install it from the dBASE 2.5 SETUP.EXE to each
workstation. When I ran the dBASE 2.5 Setup and clicked on "Install
dBASE PLUS Runtime and BDE" I received the message

"This is not needed on machines where dQuery or dBASE PLUS is
installed. It is intended for Web Servers, or any machine where you need
to run a compiled dQuery Application. Continue?"

Now over the past 22 years in IT, I have learned not to assume anything
when dealing with production systems, and to screw up this site would
cause much wailing and gnashing of teeth!! So the moderately ambiguous
nature of the above warning caused me to halt and double check with the
"Gurus" ( ie: you guys :-) )

It may seem that I am splitting hairs, but the question was genuine.

My 2 points of uncertainty were:

1) The warning did not specify a version, it just said dBASE PLUS
2) The warning only spoke about compiled dQuery Applications, not
compiled dBASE applications (didn't know you could compile dQuery!)

So I assume (gulp!) that it is OK to deploy the runtime manually to all
users.....Yes?

Thanks again for yours and Jonny's responses.

Regards
Trevor

From:	Geoff Wass
Subject:	Re: Deploy 2.5 Runtime
Date:	Thu, 2 Dec 2004 16:46:13 -0500

Trevor Rann wrote:
>> I would guess that there will be one eventually.
>>
> Thank's Geoff
> I suspect that I didn't make myself quite clear. I have a particular
> client who depends heavily on an application I have written. There are
> 15 users and the app is critical to the companies operations. I now
> understand that the "stand alone" runtime is not yet available so I
> decided to manually install it from the dBASE 2.5 SETUP.EXE to each
> workstation. When I ran the dBASE 2.5 Setup and clicked on "Install
> dBASE PLUS Runtime and BDE" I received the message
>
>
> "This is not needed on machines where dQuery or dBASE PLUS is
> installed. It is intended for Web Servers, or any machine where you
> need to run a compiled dQuery Application. Continue?"
>
>
>
> Now over the past 22 years in IT, I have learned not to assume
> anything when dealing with production systems, and to screw up this
> site would cause much wailing and gnashing of teeth!! So the
> moderately ambiguous nature of the above warning caused me to halt
> and double check with the "Gurus" ( ie: you guys :-) )
>
> It may seem that I am splitting hairs, but the question was genuine.
>
> My 2 points of uncertainty were:
>
> 1) The warning did not specify a version, it just said dBASE PLUS
> 2) The warning only spoke about compiled dQuery Applications, not
> compiled dBASE applications (didn't know you could compile dQuery!)
>
> So I assume (gulp!) that it is OK to deploy the runtime manually to
> all users.....Yes?
>
> Thanks again for yours and Jonny's responses.
>
> Regards
> Trevor

Trevor,

I have not tried this, to be honest, as I have not needed to (at least not
yet). You cannot compile dQuery itself, but it does produce programs and
reports which do get compiled. I am quite certain the installer you have
will install the real dB+ runtime, not the one for the dQuery standalone
version. There is no reason for them to include the dQ standalone version
with your dB+.

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From:	Ken Mayer [dBVIPS]
Subject:	Re: Deploy 2.5 Runtime
Date:	Wed, 01 Dec 2004 05:46:43 -0800

Trevor Rann wrote:
>>I would guess that there will be one eventually.
>>
>
> Thank's Geoff
> I suspect that I didn't make myself quite clear. I have a particular
> client who depends heavily on an application I have written. There are
> 15 users and the app is critical to the companies operations. I now
> understand that the "stand alone" runtime is not yet available so I
> decided to manually install it from the dBASE 2.5 SETUP.EXE to each
> workstation. When I ran the dBASE 2.5 Setup and clicked on "Install
> dBASE PLUS Runtime and BDE" I received the message
>
>
> "This is not needed on machines where dQuery or dBASE PLUS is
> installed. It is intended for Web Servers, or any machine where you need
> to run a compiled dQuery Application. Continue?"
>
>
>
> Now over the past 22 years in IT, I have learned not to assume anything
> when dealing with production systems, and to screw up this site would
> cause much wailing and gnashing of teeth!! So the moderately ambiguous
> nature of the above warning caused me to halt and double check with the
> "Gurus" ( ie: you guys :-) )
>
> It may seem that I am splitting hairs, but the question was genuine.
>
> My 2 points of uncertainty were:
>
> 1) The warning did not specify a version, it just said dBASE PLUS
> 2) The warning only spoke about compiled dQuery Applications, not
> compiled dBASE applications (didn't know you could compile dQuery!)
>
> So I assume (gulp!) that it is OK to deploy the runtime manually to all
> users.....Yes?

Yes, you are most likely fine. If you can, try this option on a computer
that doesn't have dBASE Plus, the runtime, or the BDE ... I have never
worked with it, and don't have a computer that doesn't have these on it.

Ken

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From:	Jonny Kwekkeboom
Subject:	Re: Deploy 2.5 Runtime
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:58:01 +0100

Hi,

> So I assume (gulp!) that it is OK to deploy the runtime manually to all
> users.....Yes?
---
If you know that its a update of your version so you can including only the
Runtime files seperatly for refresh like example at bottom
or with ScriptMaker or Project Explorer "Seperatly include"...

if this not a update you can including at this moment the
dbaseplusRuntimeEngine1755.... in your Setup and inside files you can
including refresh of the Runtime files for overwrite the 1755 files with
1804....

Like this Inno Code lines:

[Files]
Source: ???\Runtime\PlusRun.exe;
DestDir:{reg:HKLM\SOFTWARE\dBASE\PLUS\series1,RuntimePath}}; Check:
RuntimeFolder
Source: ???\Runtime\PLUSr_XX.dll;
DestDir:{reg:HKLM\SOFTWARE\dBASE\PLUS\series1,RuntimePath}; Check:
RuntimeFolder

....
[Code]
function RuntimeFolder() :Boolean;
var cFolder: String;
begin
RegQueryStringValue(HKLM,'SOFTWARE\dBASE\PLUS\series1','RuntimePath',cFolder);
Result:= FileExists(cFolder+'\PLUSrun.exe');
end;

So these files will only refreshed when they are found inside folder out of
user registry entries....

The Resource.dll file dosnt be refreshed it is not changed.... (I think)

cu
Jonny

From:	Jonny Kwekkeboom
Subject:	Re: Deploy 2.5 Runtime
Date:	Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:50:32 +0100

Hi,
> dbaseruntimeengine.exe.
---
At this time NO.....

cu
Jonny

From:	Trevor Rann
Subject:	Re: Deploy 2.5 Runtime
Date:	Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:50:34 +1100

Thanks.

Another question please. I ran the 2.5 setup and when I chose to install
the runtime, it told me that I only needed to install the runtime for
WEB server or compiled dQUERY applications. Does this mean that the
dBASE 2.21 runtime will run dBASE 2.5 Apps? I'm confused...

Thanks
Trevor

From:	Jonny Kwekkeboom
Subject:	Re: Deploy 2.5 Runtime
Date:	Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:24:34 +0100

Hi,

in dbase install the runtime files are also included in ...??\Runtime
subfolder
PlusRun.exe etc....

So it dont be installed on machine so its already done....

cu
Jonny

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> Thanks.
>
> Another question please. I ran the 2.5 setup and when I chose to install
> the runtime, it told me that I only needed to install the runtime for
> WEB server or compiled dQUERY applications. Does this mean that the
> dBASE 2.21 runtime will run dBASE 2.5 Apps? I'm confused...
>
>
> Thanks
> Trevor