Abbott) It would appear that the dysfunctional and disreputed detax
cult's only response to the final and conclusive refutation of their
lame theories is to repeat the detax lie as truth.

We can be certain that the detax cult will continue to troll for the
gullible since that is all they know to do. Since there is a sucker
born every minute we know that they will continue to revel in their
deceptions.

From:	Abbot
Subject:	Re: . . . not with a bang, but a whimper. .
Date:	23 Jan 2005 05:35:47 -0800

Abbot) Answer the question, StaR!

Are you afraid of the answer?

From:	Abbot
Subject:	Re: . . . not with a bang, but a whimper. .
Date:	23 Jan 2005 04:58:23 -0800

Abbot) StaR, you may sling all the mud you can and make up all the news
group controversies you want, but the simple fact is detaxing has no
basis in law or custom and doesn't work in the real world.

You don't want to talk about that reality any more than you want to
talk about Warman's abandonment of him own method or the shameless,
false pretension that you are a "flesh and blood man".

Faced with the truth all you can do is attack the person delivering it.
.. .that's just another debate trick by another detax snake oil salesman.

From:	StaR
Subject:	Re: . . . not with a bang, but a whimper. .
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:00:16 -0500

Abbot wrote:

> Abbot) StaR, you may sling all the mud you can and make up all the news
> group controversies you want, but the simple fact is detaxing has no
> basis in law or custom and doesn't work in the real world.
>
> You don't want to talk about that reality any more than you want to
> talk about Warman's abandonment of him own method or the shameless,
> false pretension that you are a "flesh and blood man".
>
> Faced with the truth all you can do is attack the person delivering it.
> . .that's just another debate trick by another detax snake oil salesman.
>

Abbot's refutation...

Abbot: A wife was an artificial person...

Abbot: A married woman was no longer a human being...

Abbot: A State is not a body politic (corporation)...

Abbot: The legal term corporation does not have a larger legal meaning
than its ordinary use...

Abbot: A corporation is not an invisible imaginary body...

Abbot: Older Supreme Court decisions are "old law" and therefore
irrelevant and "no good".

Abbot: Old legal dictionaries had everything wrong...

Abbot: The law of persons is God's law revealed...

Abbot: God had no respect for his creations...

Abbot: A birth certificate does not establish legal identity...

Abbot: Solicitation for murder is simply a joke...

Abbot: Stephen Jenuth is not a liar...

Abbot: He's right and everyone else is crazy...

And this ladies and gentlemen is "final and conclusive"!! LMFAO

StaR

From:	Abbot
Subject:	Re: . . . not with a bang, but a whimper. .
Date:	23 Jan 2005 05:12:33 -0800

Abbot) So StaR, maybe you can explain how it is that Eldon claimed for
years that his constructive notice method was fool proof only to admit
several days ago that he had long ago abandoned the failed method in
favor of the new and improved snake oil zero sum method.

How can you justify your cult leader endorsing to gullible rubes a
method he had so little faith in that he didn't use it himself?

Doesn't this lie eclipse any petty controversy you and your posse have
manufactured about detax debunkers?

From:	StaR
Subject:	Re: . . . not with a bang, but a whimper. .
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:20:28 -0500

Abbot wrote:

> Abbot) So StaR, maybe you can explain how it is that Eldon claimed for
> years that his constructive notice method was fool proof only to admit
> several days ago that he had long ago abandoned the failed method in
> favor of the new and improved snake oil zero sum method.
>
> How can you justify your cult leader endorsing to gullible rubes a
> method he had so little faith in that he didn't use it himself?
>
> Doesn't this lie eclipse any petty controversy you and your posse have
> manufactured about detax debunkers?
>

Your refutation says it all RETARD!!!! hahahahaha

Abbot's refutation...

Abbot: A wife was an artificial person...

Abbot: A married woman was no longer a human being...

Abbot: A State is not a body politic (corporation)...

Abbot: The legal term corporation does not have a larger legal meaning
than its ordinary use...

Abbot: A corporation is not an invisible imaginary body...

Abbot: Older Supreme Court decisions are "old law" and therefore
irrelevant and "no good".

Abbot: Old legal dictionaries had everything wrong...

Abbot: The law of persons is God's law revealed...

Abbot: God had no respect for his creations...

Abbot: A birth certificate does not establish legal identity...

Abbot: Solicitation for murder is simply a joke...

Abbot: Stephen Jenuth is not a liar...

Abbot: He's right and everyone else is crazy...

And this ladies and gentlemen is "final and conclusive"!! LMFAO

StaR

From:	StaR
Subject:	Re: . . . not with a bang, but a whimper. .
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:47:20 -0500

Abbot wrote:
> Abbott) It would appear that the dysfunctional and disreputed detax
> cult's only response to the final and conclusive refutation of their
> lame theories is to repeat the detax lie as truth.
>
> We can be certain that the detax cult will continue to troll for the
> gullible since that is all they know to do. Since there is a sucker
> born every minute we know that they will continue to revel in their
> deceptions.
>

Abbot's refutation...

Abbot: A wife was an artificial person...

Abbot: A married woman was no longer a human being...

Abbot: A State is not a body politic (corporation)...

Abbot: The legal term corporation does not have a larger legal meaning
than its ordinary use...

Abbot: A corporation is not an invisible imaginary body...

Abbot: Older Supreme Court decisions are "old law" and therefore
irrelevant and "no good".

Abbot: Old legal dictionaries had everything wrong...

Abbot: The law of persons is God's law revealed...

Abbot: God had no respect for his creations...

Abbot: A birth certificate does not establish legal identity...

Abbot: Solicitation for murder is simply a joke...

Abbot: Stephen Jenuth is not a liar...

Abbot: He's right and everyone else is crazy...

And this ladies and gentleman is "final and conclusive"!! LMFAO

StaR

From:	Abbot
Subject:	Re: . . . not with a bang, but a whimper. .
Date:	23 Jan 2005 05:24:45 -0800

Abbot) You didn't answer the question, StaR.

But, I understand completely. Lies, fraud and deception are the norm in
the detax cult.
You look the other way when Eldon plays his supplicants for fools and
Eldon looks the other way when you feed at the government trough for
free medical care.

Since this sort of behavior occupies the teeny tiny end of the human
bell shaped curve we can all breathe easier knowing that there are only
a handful of losers as messed up as you and Warman.

The truly sad part is that you pathetic punks claim Jesus says that's
perfectly all right.

From:	StaR
Subject:	Re: . . . not with a bang, but a whimper. .
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:30:08 -0500

Abbot wrote:

> Abbot) You didn't answer the question, StaR.
>
> But, I understand completely. Lies, fraud and deception are the norm in
> the detax cult.
> You look the other way when Eldon plays his supplicants for fools and
> Eldon looks the other way when you feed at the government trough for
> free medical care.
>
> Since this sort of behavior occupies the teeny tiny end of the human
> bell shaped curve we can all breathe easier knowing that there are only
> a handful of losers as messed up as you and Warman.
>
> The truly sad part is that you pathetic punks claim Jesus says that's
> perfectly all right.
>

Abbot's refutation...

Abbot: A wife was an artificial person...

Abbot: A married woman was no longer a human being...

Abbot: A State is not a body politic (corporation)...

Abbot: The legal term corporation does not have a larger legal meaning
than its ordinary use...

Abbot: A corporation is not an invisible imaginary body...

Abbot: Older Supreme Court decisions are "old law" and therefore
irrelevant and "no good".

Abbot: Old legal dictionaries had everything wrong...

Abbot: The law of persons is God's law revealed...

Abbot: God had no respect for his creations...

Abbot: A birth certificate does not establish legal identity...

Abbot: Solicitation for murder is simply a joke...

Abbot: Stephen Jenuth is not a liar...

Abbot: He's right and everyone else is crazy...

And this ladies and gentlemen is "final and conclusive"!! LMFAO

StaR

From:	Vicegerent
Subject:	Re: . . . not with a bang, but a whimper. .
Date:	23 Jan 2005 09:12:37 -0800

Jacck Foster (AKA: Abbot, Austin Rayder, Quantrell, Shitmonkey,
and a myriad of other names for a JackAss 'damage control goon'
has continued to spew the above 'off topic' shit all over this
NG for the last few years. His ploy is 'ad hominem' attacks on
the revelators of the Vatican's evil plundering of the people
of Canada and the USA.

This jerk fantasizes about suicide, physical violence (against
himself), incest, child molestation, mass tragedy and deprivation,
and other wierd things that can only be attributed to a Jesuit
eunich. Now, let's get back to the original topical theme of
this NG:

(His ego website:) http://home1.gte.net/fosterjd/author.htm
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PS: Note that the title 'Abbot' is a post in the RC Church -
a likely pseudonym for a Vatican goon, and just as fitting
as the previus pseudonym of this queer jerk Foster - Quantrell,
the mass murderer of Kansas and Missouri during the Civil War.
Seem that both thrive on death, and vicious blood letting of
innocents, like his hero, GW Shrub.
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So, you think/thought you had to/have to file a 'tax return
- 1040 (USA) or T1 (Canada)?

StaR has adequately shown you in his multiple posts that a 'person'
is a legal entity - a fiction. A 'person' is not a free will
man or woman, as created by Creator God. If 'natural person' is
used to describe you, then it is a legal fiction name (usually all
caps or family name first) supposedly attached to your body (originally
by the birth certificate of immigration papers), and supposedly changes
your status from 'free will' to that of 'galley slave' on the make
believe ship called the 'UNITED STATES' in the USA, or the 'CROWN"
in Canada.

The Canadian Income Tax Act, as all Acts or Statutes of government,
(USA or Canada) is only applicable to 'persons'. Section 2 says that
every person resident in Canada shall pay an income tax. Section 150
says that every person resident in Canada shall file a 'return of
income' in prescribed form each year.

Similarly worded statements to this effect are in Title 26 USC.
Therefore, if you are not a 'person', why are you filing and paying
income tax?

Learn more about this by going to Eldon Warman's webpage:

http://www.detaxcanada.org/forced.htm

The form names are different in the USA, but the required
lines on the forms to be used are identical.

Vicegerent