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 | | From: | TOM4bender at yahoo.com | | Subject: | KILLER TAXPAYERS | | Date: | 19 Jan 2005 15:41:08 -0800 |
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 | http://www.jesus-on-taxes.com/Page.html
KILLER TAXPAYERS
You say you're against the war in Iraq, that you are a committed dove, a peace maker, a non-violent person, a disciple of Jesus? Hmmm. I wonder?
If you are a citizen of the United States, somewhere in Iraq today it is virtually certain that one or more of your agents--soldiers, marines, CIA operatives or Haliburton contract mercenaries-have killed several innocent Iraqis in this war of naked aggression. Under the American system of government, it is unquestionable that the ultimate, sovereign authority of the nation resides in the people, the citizens of the United States-you, if you are one.
Don't blame George Bush or members of Congress. They are your agents doing what you have authorized them to do. Don't blame the soldiers who in the heat of combat shoot unarmed children. They are acting on your behalf, performing their duty for you. You sent them there. You are their principal; they are your agents. It is an unimpeachable legal axiom that a principal is responsible for the actions of his or her agents in the course of the agents' duties.
In America, you are the principal. You're the one who is responsible. You are culpable. You are guilty!
If you are a citizen, you're guilty. If you are a citizen taxpayer, you're guilty twice over. There is an old adage among investigators who look into nefarious acts. It says, "Follow the money!" If you pay federal taxes, more specifically, if you voluntarily pay the federal income tax, your tax dollars pay your president's salary, your soldiers' wages, and your invoices from those highly profitable companies that make the bullets and bombs that your agents use to blow innocent men, women and children into unrecognizable body bits, parts and pieces.
If you pay taxes, your taxes finance the slaughter. You are guilty!
Don't whine that you have no choice. Let me assure you of this: the federal income tax is a voluntary tax. You do have a choice. You don't have to pay it. If you do pay it, it is only because you choose to do so. I personally haven't paid any federal income tax since 1971, and I never will pay it again. I won't pay people to kill for me. If you are paying it, it follows as night follows day that you support the war in Iraq and the slaughter taking place there on your behalf. If you are a federal-income taxpayer, at least be honest enough to own up to your crucial role in the nefarious bloodletting that is the war in Iraq.
You say the federal income tax is mandatory? The Internal Revenue Service [and CCRA] has been saying for years that it is voluntary. Who are you to argue? Of course if you file an income tax return in which you confess to owing a tax, you had better pay it. Just remember, you filed voluntarily.
You say that your minister even tells you to pay your taxes? Don't be misled, read my essay, JESUS OF NAZARETH, ILLEGAL TAXPAYER.
Jesus would not pay taxes to finance professional killers.
Each year a few Americans are prosecuted by the feds for not volunteering, even though they are not required by law to do so. This year one of their victims is Irwin Schiff, the author of a book that the federal government is trying to ban. The one and only reason Schiff is being prosecuted is because he had the temerity to broadcast the truth about the fraudulent means the Internal Revenue Service uses to enforce the income tax. Mr. Schiff isn't being prosecuted for evading or resisting the tax. He is being persecuted for telling millions of people the truth about the tax and the federal mafia...er, IRS. If you would learn more about this issue, visit Irwin Schiff's website, http://www.paynoincometax.com/
In George Orwell's classic tale of oppression by an omnipotent State, citizens were taught that "war is peace." In America today the IRS instructs citizen taxpayers that "voluntary compliance is mandatory." And just like the brain-washed subjects of the omnipotent state in Orwell's novel, 1984, Americans believe Big Brother's propaganda. Does anyone else hear sheep bleating? LOVE YOUR ENEMIES--IT BEFUDDLES THEM!
Tom, Without Prejudice
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 | | From: | Vicegerent | | Subject: | Re: KILLER TAXPAYERS | | Date: | 22 Jan 2005 12:10:10 -0800 |
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 | ack Foster (AKA: Abbot, Austin Rayder, Quantrell, Shitmonkey, and a myriad of other names for a JackAss 'damage control goon' has continued to spew the above 'off topic' shit all over this NG for the last few years. His ploy is 'ad hominem' attacks on the revelators of the Vatican's evil plundering of the people of Canada and the USA.
This jerk fantasizes about suicide, physical violence (against himself), incest, child molestation, mass tragedy and deprivation, and other wierd things that can only be attributed to a Jesuit eunich. Now, let's get back to the original topical theme of this NG:
(His ego website:) http://home1.gte.net/fosterjd/author.htm ************************************************************* In consideration of the queer jerk and Vatican damage control goon, Jack Foster's(Abbot's) post on this NG regarding what he tries to show as being an erroneous assessment of that which a US court case may have had argued in it, one has only to check out ANY legislation of the Federal, State, County or City government to see that such legislation applies ONLY to 'persons - legal identities created by the State in the birth certificate as 'natural persons'.
PS: Note that the title 'Abbot' is a post in the RC Church - a likely pseudonym for a Vatican goon, and just as fitting as the previus pseudonym of this queer jerk Foster - Quantrell, the mass murderer of Kansas and Missouri during the Civil War. Seem that both thrive on death, and vicious blood letting of innocents, like his hero, GW Shrub.
************************************************************* So, you think/thought you had to/have to file a 'tax return - 1040 (USA) or T1 (Canada)?
StaR has adequately shown you in his multiple posts that a 'person' is a legal entity - a fiction. A 'person' is not a free will man or woman, as created by Creator God. If 'natural person' is used to describe you, then it is a legal fiction name (usually all caps or family name first) supposedly attached to your body (originally by the birth certificate of immigration papers), and supposedly changes your status from 'free will' to that of 'galley slave' on the make believe ship called the 'UNITED STATES' in the USA, or the 'CROWN" in Canada.
The Canadian Income Tax Act, as all Acts or Statutes of government, (USA or Canada) is only applicable to 'persons'. Section 2 says that every person resident in Canada shall pay an income tax. Section 150 says that every person resident in Canada shall file a 'return of income' in prescribed form each year.
Similarly worded statements to this effect are in Title 26 USC.
Therefore, if you are not a 'person', why are you filing and paying income tax?
Learn more about this by going to Eldon Warman's webpage:
http://www.detaxcanada.org/forced.htm
The form names are different in the USA, but the required lines on the forms to be used are identical.
Vicegerent
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 | | From: | Abbot | | Subject: | Re: KILLER TAXPAYERS | | Date: | 20 Jan 2005 00:01:26 -0800 |
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 | Abbot) Tommyforbrains, you posted that "[the] sovereign authority of the nation resides in the people, the citizens of the United States. . .."
This, of course, is a direct contradiction of detax theory which alternately holds that the nation is a commercial venture of the Queen (or is it the Pope?) and some sort of make believe ship !
Please explain.
Lest you think I am avoiding the thrust of your cut and paste post I would tell you that there is no guarantee that democracies won't go badly off course. But the realization of that fact and the chilling reality that it is happening before our eyes doesn't justify the sort of lawlessness and ignorance you and your detax cult advocates.
In fact the sad state of the U.S. calls the U.S. citizen to behave in exactly the opposite way!
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 | | From: | Abbot | | Subject: | Re: KILLER TAXPAYERS | | Date: | 20 Jan 2005 02:23:10 -0800 |
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 | Abbot) I don't think you get the point, son. Either that or you are trying to avoid a realistic understanding of the detax cult by posting jibberish.
The detaxer's answer to the failings of western democracy is to cheat on their taxes, punch traffic cops, call bomb threats into the court house, and for the inactive among you to sit around on NGs all day where they tell Walter Mitty tales about their imagined antigovernment activities.
The cure for insanity is not more insanity.
But considering the mess you poor fools have made of your lives, that truism is probably wasted on you.
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 | | From: | TOM4bender at yahoo.com | | Subject: | Re: KILLER TAXPAYERS | | Date: | 20 Jan 2005 02:03:07 -0800 |
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 | First and foremost, your nation was supposedly formed by and with the Grace of God.
I would suggest the words 'In God We Trust' be removed from your FRN's as it is quite obvious neither God or his Word, are welcome in your lexicon.
Tom, Without Prejudice
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 | | From: | TOM4bender at yahoo.com | | Subject: | Re: KILLER TAXPAYERS | | Date: | 22 Jan 2005 15:09:10 -0800 |
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 | "The reward of energy, enterprise and thrift is taxes." -- William Feather
There are several new testament verses that are quoted out of context by alleged government authorities and false churches in order to deceive people into believing that they should support their man-made governments and obey their man-made law.
This, however, is not the case, as God has never given His people authority to make their own law or to walk in the statutes of men.
Therefore, a more detailed look is necessary regarding these scriptures so that the deception can clearly be seen. One verse that is relentlessly misquoted is "...render unto Caesar!" found in Mark 12:14-17, where Jesus said:
"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and unto God the things that are God's." (Mark 12:14-17, Bible, NKJV).
When Jesus said this, he was totally aware of God's Law, and we can be sure that he was not telling the teachers of the law to do contrary to God's Law. Let's see just exactly what Jesus meant by "the things which are Caesar's" when he said this.
First of all, who was this "Caesar" that Jesus was referring to, but the equivalent of a king? Let's see who the king is in our society according to the U.S. supreme Court:
"Sovereignty itself is, of course, not subject to law, for it is the author and source of law; but in our system, while sovereign powers are delegated to the agencies of government, sovereignty itself remains with the people, by whom and for whom all government exists and acts." Yick Wo, v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356; 6 S.Ct. 1064 (1886)
"The people of this State, as the successors of its former sovereign, are entitled to all the rights which formerly belonged to the King by his prerogative. Through the medium of their Legislature they may exercise all the powers which previous to the Revolution could have been exercised either by the King alone, or by him in conjunction with his Parliament; subject only to those restrictions which have been imposed by the Constitution of this State or of the U.S." Lansing v. Smith, 21 D. 89., 4 Wendel 9 (1829) (New York)
The real "king" in our society is not the government or anyone serving the sovereign people in the government, but the PEOPLE! That's you! So even if you misinterpret Jesus' words to mean that we should render to a corrupt government that which it illegally asks for or demands, since your own government calls you the king, then your public servants are the ones who should be "rendering" to YOU! Render to the king (Caesar, that's you) his due, which is everything that is his property and his right, including 100% of his earned wage.
"Remember the word that I said to you, 'A servant is not greater than his master.'" [Jesus in the Bible, John 15:20]
Why does the CRA and the IRS insist on arguing with the King and violating this scripture? Therefore, covetous public servants in the government, from a Biblical perspective, simply can't be greater than the sovereigns they serve in the public at large or they are violating God's law. Plain and simple, isn't it?
The other thing that people often overlook in interpreting Jesus passage above regarding taxes is the following question:
"What exactly does belong to Caesar?"
The only thing that a sovereign (such as a government or a biological person) can "own" and control is that which he creates. Below is a list of the many things that God created, direct from the Bible. He "owns" all these things by implication, which means everything else belongs to "Caesar":
"The heavens are Yours [God's], the earth also is Yours; The world and all its fullness, You have founded them. The north and the south, You have created them; Tabor and Hermon rejoice in Your name. You have a mighty arm; Strong is Your hand, and high is Your right hand." [Psalms 89:11-13, Bible, NKJV]
The only thing the bible says is to be rendered to Caesar is death and mourning and famine. Render to him his due! Now do you understand what Jesus was saying and why both the Government and the Pharisees wanted to crucify him?
Note that Jesus also took the trouble here to hide or encrypt His subtle message, so that it would survive the ages and time and appear in the version of the Bible we have today. Otherwise, the government would have destroyed the Bible message long ago.
As Jimmy said, if He were to walk upon this earth once more, would you would be the first to put Him to the spikes once more? Tom, Without Prejudice
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 | | From: | TOM4bender at yahoo.com | | Subject: | Re: KILLER TAXPAYERS | | Date: | 20 Jan 2005 13:50:19 -0800 |
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 | This then begs the question, if your nation is not ruled first and foremost by God, who is it ruled by?
Tom, Without Prejudice
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 | | From: | Abbot | | Subject: | Re: KILLER TAXPAYERS | | Date: | 21 Jan 2005 06:27:30 -0800 |
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 | Abbot) Hell, old son, according to you it's the people. Why do you ask questions you have already answered?
One can only suppose that a society molded to the detaxer's liking would be troubled, not only by civil disorder, but also by gross stupidity.
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