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 | | From: | Micheal Artindale | | Subject: | Re: If I were AC | | Date: | Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:27:13 -0500 |
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 | I ll top post this...
See, if I was AC, the things that were Area events would be always the same
date... or atleast the same time int eh month.. EG I know that in this area
the Christmas Parade is the same weekend. I think it's the first in Dec.
Once you know something like that, it doesnt matter, you now can plan that
the 1st weekend in December, your group is doing something. Some areas are
better at this than others... 1 out of the 3 i have been in.
Micheal
"Blaeden" wrote in message
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> Hi Micheal
>
> I wanted to address your item 2. While leaders should be attending the
> various Area meetings, or at least trying their best to send someone in
> their place, I have never felt that groups "must" attend area functions
such
> as camps.
>
> I have found in the past that a lot of groups often get their programs set
> early in the year before Area events are formalized. They start their
> planning and fund raising as well as work their training schedules towards
> their planned events only to be told later on that there is an Area winter
> camp at the same time or some other such event. Its all well and good to
> have these things but they have to be planned and scheduled in advance so
> that the groups know what is coming up.
>
> One year my group had gone ahead and planned the second half of an
exchange
> camp with an American group for a weekend in Feb only to find out a month
or
> so before the event that the weekend before our planned event was an Area
> winter camp. When I put the paperwork in for our event it was held up and
> eventually "denied" to try to get us to change and attend the Area event.
I
> was told that all Area groups were expected to attend and we were "denied"
> our event unless we went to the Area event. We had our date set almost a
> year in advance, the BSA group had their bus booked, leaders had arranged
> their work schedules so that they could attend and there was no way we
could
> change our plans or attend both events. As it was, we ended up going on
our
> event without the required paperwork signed off. It was admittedly not
the
> smartest thing to do from a liability standpoint but I was not going to be
> blackmailed or bullied.
>
> Those at the Area level had to realize that they could not leave their
event
> planning to the last minute, or make their plans in a bubble so that
nobody
> else knew what was going on, and then just expect that everyone was going
to
> bow at the alter of Area just because it was an Area camp.
>
> If its done right from the start groups will gladly attend of their own
> accord but if not, expect them to go ahead and make plans of their own.
>
>
>
>
> "Micheal Artindale" wrote in message
> news:20zGd.2334$K03.104121@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >
> > "Micheal Artindale" wrote in message
> > news:5fyGd.2198$K03.91194@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> A while ago, on uk.rec.scouting, There was a post, and thread stating
> >> that
> >> if they were District Commissioner, what they would do.
> >>
> >> What would you do if you were the Area Commissioner of your area?
> >>
> >> If an AC is reading this.... Tell us what you do, or would do different
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Since I posted this, it only seems fair that I tell you what I would do
> > differently, at least here.
> >
> > 1) Every time anyone, youth or adult quits, I would make it my
> > responcibility to find out why, and to prevent it from happening in the
> > future.
> >
> > 2) If groups/leaders are not participating in various Area
> > events/meetings,
> > I would find out why. I would solve the problems that they are having.
> >
> > 3) I would request that the Field Rep for our region do school visits in
> > September every year.
> >
> > 4) Any community events, like festivals, or parades and such we would be
> > visible, except when it is not orentated to family or youth values.
> >
> > 5) If a leader felt they have a problem, I would address it, and make
sure
> > that they know that there would be no negative recourse against them for
> > bringing this up.
> >
> > 6) All of the administrative stuff they currently do.
> >
> > While I doubt I would ever want the job, I have yet to be in an
> > area/district in which all 5 things exist. some are better than others,
> > other areas are not.
> >
> > Your thoughts?
> >
> > Micheal
> >
> >
>
>
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| | From: | Heather and Don Belliveau | | Subject: | Re: If I were AC | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:20:09 GMT |
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| I replied to Michael instead of the Group. My comments for all....
Remember, there are times when Troops, etc.. might want to camp on their
own.
We have a major provincial camp every September, Operation Alert, for Troops
and Companies. We have a major Regional camp every May, Fantasy Camp, for
Troops. We always participate in these camps, and the Scouts look forward to
them.
I find it easier to work to develop the camping skills of the youth in my
Troop when we are on our own. We have more opportunities for our older youth
to train the younger and we are not tied into someone else's schedule.
We work closely with our Company to provide them chances to work with the
Scouts at camp.
I feel that 2 of our 6-8 camps per year is enough to give to
Area/Regional/Provincial camps.
We provide service at two other camps. Troop provides a project for the Cubs
at the Provincial Cub/Beaver camp in June(Lodges and Lairs) and we provide a
weekend of service in our Regional camp, Camp Harris, this year we cleaned
up a "rough" camp site that was trashed by Hurricane Juan.
This summer we have 14 of 15 Scouts going to the Provincial Jamboree in July
for a week.
Our Troop always participates in the Scout-Guide Week activities, last year
we set up a camp site in the mall with a lean-too, table and free-standing
flagpole, all lashed together by the youth.
Don Belliveau
5th Cole Harbour A Troop.
Dartmouth, NS
"Micheal Artindale" wrote in message
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>I ll top post this...
>
> See, if I was AC, the things that were Area events would be always the
> same
> date... or atleast the same time int eh month.. EG I know that in this
> area
> the Christmas Parade is the same weekend. I think it's the first in Dec.
> Once you know something like that, it doesnt matter, you now can plan that
> the 1st weekend in December, your group is doing something. Some areas are
> better at this than others... 1 out of the 3 i have been in.
>
> Micheal
>
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