 | | From: | Denis Roy | | Subject: | 2.2 hp big enough as a kicker? | | Date: | Fri, 03 Dec 2004 22:03:40 GMT |
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 | I just picked up a canoe that came with a 2.2 HP merc. Would this be
powerful enough to use as a troller / kicker for my 17 1/2' fiberglass sea
ray? I was hoping it could serve to get us home if the main motor ever
quits.
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Denis Roy
D. Roy Woodcraft
www.ideasinwood.com
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| | From: | Pat Drummond | | Subject: | Re: 2.2 hp big enough as a kicker? | | Date: | Fri, 03 Dec 2004 20:05:30 -0500 |
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| Denis Roy wrote:
> I just picked up a canoe that came with a 2.2 HP merc. Would this be
> powerful enough to use as a troller / kicker for my 17 1/2' fiberglass sea
> ray? I was hoping it could serve to get us home if the main motor ever
> quits.
A boat's 'windage' is a factor - a flybridge cruiser needs more horses
than a low profile fishing boat of the same length. Under "ideal" calm
conditions a 2 hp would move the boat but don't expect much against
wind, current or grassy bottoms. Sort of like attempting to row an
inflatable dinghy into 15 kt wind against a 2 knot current in a 1 ft.
chop - you'll end up going backwards.
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| | From: | tbd | | Subject: | Re: 2.2 hp big enough as a kicker? | | Date: | Sun, 5 Dec 2004 13:42:43 -0500 |
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| "Denis Roy" wrote in message
news:0p5sd.405749$Pl.344444@pd7tw1no...
> I just picked up a canoe that came with a 2.2 HP merc. Would this be
> powerful enough to use as a troller / kicker for my 17 1/2' fiberglass sea
> ray? I was hoping it could serve to get us home if the main motor ever
> quits.
It might if home is close and water/wind is calm. A 4hp kicker (>80% more
hp) once brought my 17.5' Alumacraft (probably < 50% weight of your boat)
back approx 5 miles against a slight current and 10 mph winds. It took a
looooooong time; almost 4 hours.
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| | From: | Harry Krause | | Subject: | Re: 2.2 hp big enough as a kicker? | | Date: | Fri, 03 Dec 2004 19:05:45 -0500 |
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| Denis Roy wrote:
> I just picked up a canoe that came with a 2.2 HP merc. Would this be
> powerful enough to use as a troller / kicker for my 17 1/2' fiberglass sea
> ray? I was hoping it could serve to get us home if the main motor ever
> quits.
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> --
> Denis Roy
> D. Roy Woodcraft
> www.ideasinwood.com
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Maybe on a small inland lake. It would be almost useless on the ocean or
a bay where there are strong winds, currents, tides, waves, et cetera.
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| | From: | Dan Krueger | | Subject: | Re: 2.2 hp big enough as a kicker? | | Date: | Sat, 04 Dec 2004 00:24:22 GMT |
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| Exactly. Sea Tow is a cheaper "get home" plan than a very small kicker in the
big water. You could buy a 90 year subscription for the price of a kicker that
you have to keep maintained.
Dan
Harry Krause wrote:
> Denis Roy wrote:
>
>> I just picked up a canoe that came with a 2.2 HP merc. Would this be
>> powerful enough to use as a troller / kicker for my 17 1/2' fiberglass
>> sea
>> ray? I was hoping it could serve to get us home if the main motor ever
>> quits.
>>
>> --
>> Denis Roy
>> D. Roy Woodcraft
>> www.ideasinwood.com
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>>
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> Maybe on a small inland lake. It would be almost useless on the ocean or
> a bay where there are strong winds, currents, tides, waves, et cetera.
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| | From: | Matt Lang | | Subject: | Re: 2.2 hp big enough as a kicker? | | Date: | 4 Dec 2004 17:02:42 -0800 |
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| "Denis Roy" wrote in message news:<0p5sd.405749$Pl.344444@pd7tw1no>...
> I just picked up a canoe that came with a 2.2 HP merc. Would this be
> powerful enough to use as a troller / kicker for my 17 1/2' fiberglass sea
> ray? I was hoping it could serve to get us home if the main motor ever
> quits.
I think for that size boat a 6 HP is the best compromise. of course
dont be thinking you will be steering this home against lots of wind
and waves.
Just for trolling it will be just fine (as long as the shaft fits)
Matt
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| | From: | K. Smith | | Subject: | Re: 2.2 hp big enough as a kicker? | | Date: | Sat, 04 Dec 2004 10:19:27 +1100 |
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| Denis Roy wrote:
> I just picked up a canoe that came with a 2.2 HP merc. Would this be
> powerful enough to use as a troller / kicker for my 17 1/2' fiberglass sea
> ray? I was hoping it could serve to get us home if the main motor ever
> quits.
>
> --
> Denis Roy
> D. Roy Woodcraft
> www.ideasinwood.com
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It's not ideal but will definitely move the boat in flat water &
surprisingly well. Most of those little motors, save they're blocked up
with salt in the water jacket, can be run pretty hard for long periods
but still it's best to use as little throttle as is needed, because it
will take a while no matter what:-)
In the even it's rough & windy in open water then it probably won't
allow you to bash to windward etc but you will still have some control
off or down wind, even if only to pick a soft landing spot:-); however
it's still better than oars (a "good" oars person with proper row locks
etc can generate about 1/4HP) or worse nothing at all:-)
K
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| | From: | Dan Krueger | | Subject: | Re: 2.2 hp big enough as a kicker? | | Date: | Sat, 04 Dec 2004 00:21:59 GMT |
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| Denis,
I have a friend who once owned a small 16' or 17' aluminum Lund with a 60 HP
tiller steer motor. The motor crapped out on us one day on the Illinois river
during a walleye tournament. His Yamaha BHP kicker moved us up river at 3-4 MPH
(GPS) for the 4-5 mile trip back to the ramp. WOT the whole time and the single
cylinder motor was loud as hell for its small size. The current wasn't
particularly strong that day since the water level was fairly low and the dam
was barely open. The boat you describe probably weighs 50% more so your results
could be very disappointing. The upside is you have the motor and you can test
it in a variety of conditions. My bet is you will want to get a 9.9HP with the
kicker gear case and prop (Mercury calls theirs the "Bigfoot") as an absolute
minimum unless you are on a very small lake all of the time.
Good luck,
Dan
Denis Roy wrote:
> I just picked up a canoe that came with a 2.2 HP merc. Would this be
> powerful enough to use as a troller / kicker for my 17 1/2' fiberglass sea
> ray? I was hoping it could serve to get us home if the main motor ever
> quits.
>
> --
> Denis Roy
> D. Roy Woodcraft
> www.ideasinwood.com
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