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 | | From: | Chris Gunn | | Subject: | FAQ - Disappearing Messages - | | Date: | Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:39:04 -0600 |
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 | If you notice your messages don't appear in a newsgroup or are gone the next day, please don't post them again. If one of the following has occurred, your message will probably be rejected or canceled again:
1. If you post to a "(Moderated)" newsgroup such as biz.general, the messages are sent to the Moderator as E-Mail first. The Moderator then decides what will appear in the newsgroup itself. If accepted, you may not see your message until the next day or so.
2. If you post to a Retro-Moderated newsgroup (You need to refer to the charter to tell if they are.), the Moderator may issue a "cancel" which removes any off-topic or objectionable messages. You may see your message for a few hours until the cancellation takes effect.
3. Most of the biz groups are now monitored by an anti-spam auto-cancel site. It is carefully set up to observe the BI (Breidbart Index) >=20 rule and follows the , !mmfcancel and !cyberspam conventions when formatting the cancel messages. The robot treats all messages, no matter what their source, the same. This is the standard method accepted by all of the Usenet authorities.
Note: The anti-spam robots that monitor newsgroups in other hierarchies may also result in cross-posted messages being cancelled in the biz newsgroups. None of the auto-cancel sites are affiliated with BIZynet Inc and our articles are subject to the same rules.
Basically it means you are allowed to post the same message about twenty times during a sliding 45 day period. The index is based on how many newsgroups, so large cross-post lists qualify just as quickly as posting the same message individually. Changing the Subject line or minor changes to the text do not qualify as a different message. If you post like crazy the first week, any replicates of the same message will be canceled until the posting frequency stays under the Breidbart Index for 45 days.
For example: If you post the same product list once a week to four newsgroups and only change prices, after five weeks all copies of your message will start getting cancelled. They will continue being cancelled until you stop posting that message for at least a month.
What's really safe? Pick no more than five newsgroups that will be the most productive and your message will fit within the charter. Two or three in the biz groups and the rest in other hierarchies, like alt and misc, will do the trick. Time your posting carefully so posts to each newsgroup occur once per week or less. Instead of posting to all of them at once, it's better to spread them out over the week.
Your message will hang around for a week or so and readers will find it if there isn't too much clutter.
News Readers such as Netscape and Free Agent are set to show only new messages most of the time. After you have read your message or marked the group as read, your message will not appear in your news reader window even though it is on the server. In Netscape, go to Options/Show all messages to see the messages (including probably yours) that remain on the server. If you see your message, there is no need to post again. If you don't see your message, using the guidelines found in this FAQ and good business practices, consider whether to post it again or not.
For those that like to try to beat the system, keep in mind that anyone reading the newsgroups can complain to your ISP. Even those using a bogus address or stealth mailer can be tracked down and locked out. You are expected to use a valid reply address in the heading if you post to the biz.* newsgroups BIZynet maintains.
A valid reply address does not include an auto-responder in the From or the Reply-To heading lines. The moderators tend to get annoyed when they get spammed as a result of a rejection message or trying to help you.
From a marketing standpoint on the newsgroups, over saturation by a few individuals hurts everyone's chances. Experience over the last eight years has taught us that about once per week in a newsgroup gives everyone the best chance at readers finding their advertising. Every 10 days is a little better and rotates the message through the days of the week. On some of specialty biz newsgroups, you should work at two week intervals.
Some folks may feel they are being stifled by all this control. Believe me, it improves everyone's sales and we need everyone working together to get there.
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