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 | | From: | Tock | | Subject: | sanitizing hairbrushes . . . | | Date: | Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:59:07 GMT |
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 | Hello,
Anyone have any idea where I can find information about sanitizing
hairbrushes like the ones they use in barbershops to dust off the hair after
a haircut?
I'm about to open up a barbershop, and I have information on sanitizing
other things, like towels and combs and clippers, but I've discovered that
the usual hair dusters like these
http://www.bestclippers.com/mastupnedu53.html fall apart pretty quick in
autoclaves and after getting wet with quats.
I presume the best way to sanitze these things would be to use a
paraformaldehyde product like this http://www.sterifab.com/steridri.html
which has about 1/2 ounce of paraformaldehyde which slowly decomposes into
formaldehyde gas and zaps unfriendly bugs . . .
What I'd like to find is information about how much formaldehyde gas is
generated from a 1/2 ounce of paraformaldehyde, and how much time it would
take this much gas to effectively sanitize three dozen brushes in an
airtight box. I wrote to the sterifab people, and all they can tell me is
that it would take 24 hours, but they can't cite any studies or explain why.
The state barber and cosmetology people haven't a clue, either, which is
surprising, because they're supposed to regulate this stuff to make sure
haircutters are conducting their business in a safe and sanitary manner.
Anyway, I'd greatly appreciate it if anyone can point me to information that
can tell me about sanitizing hairbrushes with paraformaldehyde . . .
Thanks,
-tock
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| | From: | N10 | | Subject: | Re: sanitizing hairbrushes . . . | | Date: | Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:22:35 +0000 (UTC) |
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"Tock" wrote in message
news:va5rd.35009$bP2.24260@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
> Hello,
>
> Anyone have any idea where I can find information about sanitizing
> hairbrushes like the ones they use in barbershops to dust off the hair
> after a haircut?
>
> I'm about to open up a barbershop, and I have information on sanitizing
> other things, like towels and combs and clippers, but I've discovered that
> the usual hair dusters like these
> http://www.bestclippers.com/mastupnedu53.html fall apart pretty quick in
> autoclaves and after getting wet with quats.
> I presume the best way to sanitze these things would be to use a
> paraformaldehyde product like this
> http://www.sterifab.com/steridri.html which has about 1/2 ounce of
> paraformaldehyde which slowly decomposes into formaldehyde gas and zaps
> unfriendly bugs . . .
>
> What I'd like to find is information about how much formaldehyde gas is
> generated from a 1/2 ounce of paraformaldehyde, and how much time it would
> take this much gas to effectively sanitize three dozen brushes in an
> airtight box. I wrote to the sterifab people, and all they can tell me
> is that it would take 24 hours, but they can't cite any studies or explain
> why. The state barber and cosmetology people haven't a clue, either, which
> is surprising, because they're supposed to regulate this stuff to make
> sure haircutters are conducting their business in a safe and sanitary
> manner.
>
> Anyway, I'd greatly appreciate it if anyone can point me to information
> that can tell me about sanitizing hairbrushes with paraformaldehyde . . .
>
> Thanks,
>
> -tock
>
>
You might try formulations based on 70 % Industrial Propyl Alcohol.
Best N10
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| | From: | Tock | | Subject: | Re: sanitizing hairbrushes . . . | | Date: | Wed, 01 Dec 2004 04:50:56 GMT |
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"N10" wrote
> You might try formulations based on 70 % Industrial Propyl Alcohol.
>
> Best N10
Ya, I did some more looking around, and it turns out that this company's
little half-ounce cube of paraformaldehyde doesn't put out much gaseous
formeldehyde, and the gas won't penetrate into the inner parts of a hair
duster brush, so that won't work at all.
Although it would work pretty well, I'm not comfortable will cleaning
brushes in alcohol, because the vapors from drying the brushes would be both
toxic and flammable.
So, I guess I gotta find some other sort of brush to use on people that (1)
isn't uncomfortable, (2) isn't dangerous, and (3) won't ruin the brush. 1st
try will be some cheap paintbrushes and the usual Barbicide (quats) and
water . . . hope I can find something that will work . . .
Thanks,
-Tock
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| | From: | Jorge1907 | | Subject: | Re: sanitizing hairbrushes . . . | | Date: | 06 Dec 2004 11:22:04 GMT |
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| This seems pretty extreme for a barber shop - you'll certainly need to take
precautions to protect yourself and others from formaldehyde vapors.
Have you looked into disposable materials? You might also consider that simply
washing in hot water is pretty effective - and effect a reasonable turnover in
duster use.
Good luck
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy
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| | From: | Tock | | Subject: | Re: sanitizing hairbrushes . . . | | Date: | Tue, 07 Dec 2004 04:08:54 GMT |
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"Jorge1907" wrote in message
news:20041206062204.08274.00001613@mb-m05.aol.com...
> This seems pretty extreme for a barber shop - you'll certainly need to
> take
> precautions to protect yourself and others from formaldehyde vapors.
>
> Have you looked into disposable materials? You might also consider that
> simply
> washing in hot water is pretty effective - and effect a reasonable
> turnover in
> duster use.
>
> Good luck
Extreme? I dunno . . . some states prohibit barbers from using
duster-brushes anymore because of the sanitation problems. Most barbers
use the same brush on all their clients day after day for years on end,
regardless if they have the flu or ringworm or whatever. I suppose that
most of the time there's no problem, but, the other 5% or 20% or whatever of
the time, it would have been better to have used a clean brush.
Same consideration goes with washing hands . . . I'm sure the 20th
customer of the day would appreciate not having the germ-covered hands that
ran through 19 stranger's hair running through his . . .
Just trying to do things right; trying to figure out a reasonable and
effective way to do it . . .
I tried getting the Marvy #53 brush wet, and discovered that they don't
like that . . . the wood handle splits and the hairs fall out. Not good.
And I discovered that leaving 'em in a closed box with a small block of
paraformaldehyde takes 24 hours to work, and then it only gets the outside
of the brush--the vapors won't penetrate too well.
But, I think I might be able to use the cheap Marvy shaving brushes as
hair dusters . . . they're $2 each in quantity, are engineered to handle
moisture, and have enough fibers on 'em to work well as dusters, and not so
many that they'll take forever to dry after 20 minutes in a quat solution.
Ya, I never paid much attention to sanitation from the folks who cut my
hair, but having been through both beauty and barber school and worked on
lots of heads, it looks like it's pretty easy to spread ringworm and fungal
infections. Probably lots easier to spread respiratory germs, so, since
the prevention is so simple and obvious, there's really no reason not to do
the right thing and run a sanitary shop.
Thanks,
-Tock
ps--something you might want to check . . . if the place you get your hair
cut doesn't have any sinks around, chances are your haircutter hasn't washed
their hands all day long . . . . in that case, you definitely want to be
their first customer of the day . . .
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| | From: | Jorge1907 | | Subject: | Re: sanitizing hairbrushes . . . | | Date: | 21 Dec 2004 02:50:49 GMT |
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| Tock:
The formaldehyde safety considerations should not be overlooked - it's prop 65
in California and a suspected human carcinogen.
Good luck.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy
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| | From: | N10 | | Subject: | Re: sanitizing hairbrushes . . . | | Date: | Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:20:12 +0000 (UTC) |
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"Tock" wrote in message
news:va5rd.35009$bP2.24260@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
> Hello,
>
> Anyone have any idea where I can find information about sanitizing
> hairbrushes like the ones they use in barbershops to dust off the hair
> after a haircut?
>
> I'm about to open up a barbershop, and I have information on sanitizing
> other things, like towels and combs and clippers, but I've discovered that
> the usual hair dusters like these
> http://www.bestclippers.com/mastupnedu53.html fall apart pretty quick in
> autoclaves and after getting wet with quats.
> I presume the best way to sanitze these things would be to use a
> paraformaldehyde product like this
> http://www.sterifab.com/steridri.html which has about 1/2 ounce of
> paraformaldehyde which slowly decomposes into formaldehyde gas and zaps
> unfriendly bugs . . .
>
> What I'd like to find is information about how much formaldehyde gas is
> generated from a 1/2 ounce of paraformaldehyde, and how much time it would
> take this much gas to effectively sanitize three dozen brushes in an
> airtight box. I wrote to the sterifab people, and all they can tell me
> is that it would take 24 hours, but they can't cite any studies or explain
> why. The state barber and cosmetology people haven't a clue, either, which
> is surprising, because they're supposed to regulate this stuff to make
> sure haircutters are conducting their business in a safe and sanitary
> manner.
>
> Anyway, I'd greatly appreciate it if anyone can point me to information
> that can tell me about sanitizing hairbrushes with paraformaldehyde . . .
>
> Thanks,
>
> -tock
>
>
What ever you choose dont use anything which genrates Formaldehyde vapours.
This compound is carcinogenic.
For your edification
http://www.lakes-environmental.com/toxic/FORMALDEHYDE.HTML
Best N10
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