"Bernd Felsche" wrote in message
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> "Trevor Wilson" writes:
>>"Bernd Felsche" wrote in message
>>news:c4tdc2xrmi.ln2@innovative.iinet.net.au...
>>> "Trevor Wilson" writes:
>>>>"B J Foster" wrote in message
>>>>news:41F41BE6.7020203@yahoo.com...
>>>>> Mike Price wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:57:55 +1000, Jacques Guy
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Why the hell would anyone lie about this? If car fumes bothered us so
>>>>>> much surely we would complain about them as well. Are we supposed to
>>>>>> not really be bothered by cigarette smoke but just have some strange
>>>>>> personal vendetta against smokers or something?
>
>>>>> Car exhaust contains colourless, odourless and DEADLY carbon-monoxide.
>
>>>>**Point:
>
>>>>Modern, PROPERLY maintained automobiles emit so little CO, that it is
>>>>virtually impossible to die by inhaling the exhaust.
>
>>> Go on then; try it!
>
>>> The CO2 in the exhaust will kill you unless you get enough oxygen;
>>> which the CO2 from motor vehicles will *displace*.
>
>>**Nice try. We're discussing CO, not CO2.
>
> CO2 is part of "car fumes". CO2 is colourless, odourless and DEADLY.
> So "inhaling the exhaust" for long enough will kill you. And by long
> enough; it's a matter of minutes.

**Indeed. However, just to remind you: We're discussing CO, not CO2.
Further, can you tell me how much O2 is left in the exhaust, after
combustion in a typical, modern, properly tuned automobile? Also, how much
CO2 is left in the exhaust after combustion in a typical, modern, properly
tuned automobile?

After we know these answers, we can determine if the exhaust gases would,
indeed, kill a person.

I do not have the figures to hand, but I would wager that there is
sufficient O2 left and insufficient CO2, after combustion, to suffocate a
human. I reiterate: I do not have any data to support this argument.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

From:	Mark Addinall
Subject:	Re: Smoke bans at the beach
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:59:29 GMT

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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
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>
> "Bernd Felsche" wrote in message
> news:5f0ec2x77j.ln2@innovative.iinet.net.au...
>> "Trevor Wilson" writes:
>>>"Bernd Felsche" wrote in message
>>>news:c4tdc2xrmi.ln2@innovative.iinet.net.au...
>>>> "Trevor Wilson" writes:
>>>>>"B J Foster" wrote in message
>>>>>news:41F41BE6.7020203@yahoo.com...
>>>>>> Mike Price wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:57:55 +1000, Jacques Guy
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Why the hell would anyone lie about this? If car fumes bothered us
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> much surely we would complain about them as well. Are we supposed to
>>>>>>> not really be bothered by cigarette smoke but just have some strange
>>>>>>> personal vendetta against smokers or something?
>>
>>>>>> Car exhaust contains colourless, odourless and DEADLY
>>>>>> carbon-monoxide.
>>
>>>>>**Point:
>>
>>>>>Modern, PROPERLY maintained automobiles emit so little CO, that it is
>>>>>virtually impossible to die by inhaling the exhaust.
>>
>>>> Go on then; try it!
>>
>>>> The CO2 in the exhaust will kill you unless you get enough oxygen;
>>>> which the CO2 from motor vehicles will *displace*.
>>
>>>**Nice try. We're discussing CO, not CO2.
>>
>> CO2 is part of "car fumes". CO2 is colourless, odourless and DEADLY.
>> So "inhaling the exhaust" for long enough will kill you. And by long
>> enough; it's a matter of minutes.
>
> **Indeed. However, just to remind you: We're discussing CO, not CO2.
> Further, can you tell me how much O2 is left in the exhaust, after
> combustion in a typical, modern, properly tuned automobile? Also, how much
> CO2 is left in the exhaust after combustion in a typical, modern, properly
> tuned automobile?
>
> After we know these answers, we can determine if the exhaust gases would,
> indeed, kill a person.
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>
> I do not have the figures to hand,

Now you do.

> but I would wager

How much?

> that there is sufficient O2 left and insufficient CO2, after combustion,
> to suffocate a human. I reiterate: I do not have any data to support this
> argument.

Try it.
Have someone else document it.

Mark Addinall.

>
>
> --
> Trevor Wilson
> www.rageaudio.com.au
>
>
>
>

From:	Trevor Wilson
Subject:	Re: Smoke bans at the beach
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:05:20 +1100

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>> "Bernd Felsche" wrote in message
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>>> "Trevor Wilson" writes:
>>>>"Bernd Felsche" wrote in message
>>>>news:c4tdc2xrmi.ln2@innovative.iinet.net.au...
>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" writes:
>>>>>>"B J Foster" wrote in message
>>>>>>news:41F41BE6.7020203@yahoo.com...
>>>>>>> Mike Price wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:57:55 +1000, Jacques Guy
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why the hell would anyone lie about this? If car fumes bothered us
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> much surely we would complain about them as well. Are we supposed
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> not really be bothered by cigarette smoke but just have some
>>>>>>>> strange
>>>>>>>> personal vendetta against smokers or something?
>>>
>>>>>>> Car exhaust contains colourless, odourless and DEADLY
>>>>>>> carbon-monoxide.
>>>
>>>>>>**Point:
>>>
>>>>>>Modern, PROPERLY maintained automobiles emit so little CO, that it is
>>>>>>virtually impossible to die by inhaling the exhaust.
>>>
>>>>> Go on then; try it!
>>>
>>>>> The CO2 in the exhaust will kill you unless you get enough oxygen;
>>>>> which the CO2 from motor vehicles will *displace*.
>>>
>>>>**Nice try. We're discussing CO, not CO2.
>>>
>>> CO2 is part of "car fumes". CO2 is colourless, odourless and DEADLY.
>>> So "inhaling the exhaust" for long enough will kill you. And by long
>>> enough; it's a matter of minutes.
>>
>> **Indeed. However, just to remind you: We're discussing CO, not CO2.
>> Further, can you tell me how much O2 is left in the exhaust, after
>> combustion in a typical, modern, properly tuned automobile? Also, how
>> much CO2 is left in the exhaust after combustion in a typical, modern,
>> properly tuned automobile?
>>
>> After we know these answers, we can determine if the exhaust gases would,
>> indeed, kill a person.
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>
>
>>
>> I do not have the figures to hand,
>
> Now you do.

**No, I do not. I do have a bunch of references to publications I do not
possess, however. If you have the actual data, then please present it.

>
>> but I would wager
>
> How much?

**Figure of speech. I don't actually gamble.

>
>> that there is sufficient O2 left and insufficient CO2, after combustion,
>> to suffocate a human. I reiterate: I do not have any data to support this
>> argument.
>
> Try it.
> Have someone else document it.

**Let's see the data. I won't be sticking my mouth anywhere near a
cigarette, or an exhaust pipe, anytime soon. Both emit far too much toxic
crap. Only complete morons stick their mouths near exhaust pipes and
cigarettes.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

From:	B J Foster
Subject:	Re: Smoke bans at the beach
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:27:03 +1100

Trevor Wilson wrote:
> "Mark Addinall" wrote in message
> news:lwZId.131556$K7.8989@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>

>
>>>that there is sufficient O2 left and insufficient CO2, after combustion,
>>>to suffocate a human. I reiterate: I do not have any data to support this
>>>argument.
>>
>>Try it.
>>Have someone else document it.
>

ROTFL

From:	B J Foster
Subject:	Re: Smoke bans at the beach
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:24:20 +1100

Trevor Wilson wrote:
> "Mark Addinall" wrote in message
> news:lwZId.131556$K7.8989@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>

>>
>>>I do not have the figures to hand,
>>
>>Now you do.
>
>
> **No, I do not. I do have a bunch of references to publications I do not
> possess, however. If you have the actual data, then please present it.
>
>
>>>but I would wager
>>
>>How much?
>
>
> **Figure of speech. I don't actually gamble.

You mean you can't put your money where your mouth is

>
>

From:	Trevor Wilson
Subject:	Re: Smoke bans at the beach
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:30:20 +1100

"B J Foster" wrote in message
news:41F46A64.1010509@yahoo.com...
>
>
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> "Mark Addinall" wrote in message
>> news:lwZId.131556$K7.8989@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>
>>>
>>>>I do not have the figures to hand,
>>>
>>>Now you do.
>>
>>
>> **No, I do not. I do have a bunch of references to publications I do not
>> possess, however. If you have the actual data, then please present it.
>>
>>
>>>>but I would wager
>>>
>>>How much?
>>
>>
>> **Figure of speech. I don't actually gamble.
>
> You mean you can't put your money where your mouth is

**Earlier today, you *plonked* me. Do you understand what that means? Do you
want to answer my previous questions to you? Or don't have the balls or
brains to do so?

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

From:	B J Foster
Subject:	Re: Smoke bans at the beach
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:29:30 +1100

Trevor Wilson wrote:
> "B J Foster" wrote in message
> news:41F46A64.1010509@yahoo.com...
>
>>
>>Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>
>>>"Mark Addinall" wrote in message
>>>news:lwZId.131556$K7.8989@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>I do not have the figures to hand,
>>>>
>>>>Now you do.
>>>
>>>
>>>**No, I do not. I do have a bunch of references to publications I do not
>>>possess, however. If you have the actual data, then please present it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>but I would wager
>>>>
>>>>How much?
>>>
>>>
>>>**Figure of speech. I don't actually gamble.
>>
>>You mean you can't put your money where your mouth is
>
>
> **Earlier today, you *plonked* me. Do you understand what that means? Do you
> want to answer my previous questions to you? Or don't have the balls or
> brains to do so?
>
>

Figure of speech. I don't actually plonk

From:	Trevor Wilson
Subject:	Re: Smoke bans at the beach
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:36:55 +1100

"B J Foster" wrote in message
news:41F46B9A.60208@yahoo.com...
>
>
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> "B J Foster" wrote in message
>> news:41F46A64.1010509@yahoo.com...
>>
>>>
>>>Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Mark Addinall" wrote in message
>>>>news:lwZId.131556$K7.8989@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>I do not have the figures to hand,
>>>>>
>>>>>Now you do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>**No, I do not. I do have a bunch of references to publications I do not
>>>>possess, however. If you have the actual data, then please present it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>but I would wager
>>>>>
>>>>>How much?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>**Figure of speech. I don't actually gamble.
>>>
>>>You mean you can't put your money where your mouth is
>>
>>
>> **Earlier today, you *plonked* me. Do you understand what that means? Do
>> you want to answer my previous questions to you? Or don't have the balls
>> or brains to do so?
>>
>>
>
> Figure of speech. I don't actually plonk

**Good that I now understand that you don't actually carry through on a
threat. Now, how about answering my questions?

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

From:	B J Foster
Subject:	Re: Smoke bans at the beach
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:53:17 +1100

Trevor Wilson wrote:
> "B J Foster" wrote in message
> news:41F46B9A.60208@yahoo.com...
>
>>
>>Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>
>>>"B J Foster" wrote in message
>>>news:41F46A64.1010509@yahoo.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Mark Addinall" wrote in message
>>>>>news:lwZId.131556$K7.8989@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>I do not have the figures to hand,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Now you do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>**No, I do not. I do have a bunch of references to publications I do not
>>>>>possess, however. If you have the actual data, then please present it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>but I would wager
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How much?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>**Figure of speech. I don't actually gamble.
>>>>
>>>>You mean you can't put your money where your mouth is
>>>
>>>
>>>**Earlier today, you *plonked* me. Do you understand what that means? Do
>>>you want to answer my previous questions to you? Or don't have the balls
>>>or brains to do so?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Figure of speech. I don't actually plonk
>
>
> **Good that I now understand that you don't actually carry through on a
> threat. Now, how about answering my questions?
>
>

Q. What's the point of debating with an idiot?
A. None

*Plonk**

From:	Trevor Wilson
Subject:	Re: Smoke bans at the beach
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:07:18 +1100

"B J Foster" wrote in message
news:41F4712D.2020801@yahoo.com...
>
>
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> "B J Foster" wrote in message
>> news:41F46B9A.60208@yahoo.com...
>>
>>>
>>>Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>>"B J Foster" wrote in message
>>>>news:41F46A64.1010509@yahoo.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Mark Addinall" wrote in message
>>>>>>news:lwZId.131556$K7.8989@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I do not have the figures to hand,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Now you do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>**No, I do not. I do have a bunch of references to publications I do
>>>>>>not possess, however. If you have the actual data, then please present
>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>but I would wager
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How much?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>**Figure of speech. I don't actually gamble.
>>>>>
>>>>>You mean you can't put your money where your mouth is
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>**Earlier today, you *plonked* me. Do you understand what that means? Do
>>>>you want to answer my previous questions to you? Or don't have the balls
>>>>or brains to do so?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Figure of speech. I don't actually plonk
>>
>>
>> **Good that I now understand that you don't actually carry through on a
>> threat. Now, how about answering my questions?
>>
>>
>
> Q. What's the point of debating with an idiot?
> A. None
>
> *Plonk**

**Truer words were never spoken.

I guess even a complete and utter moron can SOMETHING right.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

From:	Mark Addinall
Subject:	Re: Smoke bans at the beach
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 05:52:44 GMT

"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
news:35j6vrF4nj5otU1@individual.net...
>
> "Mark Addinall" wrote in message
> news:lwZId.131556$K7.8989@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>>
>> --
>> I'm too poor to have a .sig
>> addinall@addinall.org
>> "Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
>> news:41f4598c$1@news.comindico.com.au...
>>>
>>> "Bernd Felsche" wrote in message
>>> news:5f0ec2x77j.ln2@innovative.iinet.net.au...
>>>> "Trevor Wilson" writes:
>>>>>"Bernd Felsche" wrote in message
>>>>>news:c4tdc2xrmi.ln2@innovative.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" writes:
>>>>>>>"B J Foster" wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:41F41BE6.7020203@yahoo.com...
>>>>>>>> Mike Price wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:57:55 +1000, Jacques Guy
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why the hell would anyone lie about this? If car fumes bothered us
>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>> much surely we would complain about them as well. Are we supposed
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> not really be bothered by cigarette smoke but just have some
>>>>>>>>> strange
>>>>>>>>> personal vendetta against smokers or something?
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Car exhaust contains colourless, odourless and DEADLY
>>>>>>>> carbon-monoxide.
>>>>
>>>>>>>**Point:
>>>>
>>>>>>>Modern, PROPERLY maintained automobiles emit so little CO, that it is
>>>>>>>virtually impossible to die by inhaling the exhaust.
>>>>
>>>>>> Go on then; try it!
>>>>
>>>>>> The CO2 in the exhaust will kill you unless you get enough oxygen;
>>>>>> which the CO2 from motor vehicles will *displace*.
>>>>
>>>>>**Nice try. We're discussing CO, not CO2.
>>>>
>>>> CO2 is part of "car fumes". CO2 is colourless, odourless and DEADLY.
>>>> So "inhaling the exhaust" for long enough will kill you. And by long
>>>> enough; it's a matter of minutes.
>>>
>>> **Indeed. However, just to remind you: We're discussing CO, not CO2.
>>> Further, can you tell me how much O2 is left in the exhaust, after
>>> combustion in a typical, modern, properly tuned automobile? Also, how
>>> much CO2 is left in the exhaust after combustion in a typical, modern,
>>> properly tuned automobile?
>>>
>>> After we know these answers, we can determine if the exhaust gases
>>> would, indeed, kill a person.
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>>
>>
>>>
>>> I do not have the figures to hand,
>>
>> Now you do.
>
> **No, I do not. I do have a bunch of references to publications I do not
> possess, however. If you have the actual data, then please present it.

Get your nurse to teach you about LIBRARYs. I'm not in the
business to educate every dumb fuck with an internet account.

>
>>
>>> but I would wager
>>
>> How much?
>
> **Figure of speech. I don't actually gamble.

Nor think. Figures.

>
>>
>>> that there is sufficient O2 left and insufficient CO2, after combustion,
>>> to suffocate a human. I reiterate: I do not have any data to support
>>> this argument.
>>
>> Try it.
>> Have someone else document it.
>
> **Let's see the data.

Try it.
Have someone else document it.
Heaps of data; one dead dickhead.

> I won't be sticking my mouth anywhere near a cigarette, or an exhaust
> pipe, anytime soon.

Pity.

> Both emit far too much toxic crap. Only complete morons stick their mouths
> near exhaust pipes and cigarettes.

Or in your case, cocks. You can die of AIDS you know?

Mark Addinall.

>
>
> --
> Trevor Wilson
> www.rageaudio.com.au
>

From:	Trevor Wilson
Subject:	Re: Smoke bans at the beach
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:03:58 +1100

"Mark Addinall" wrote in message
news:M20Jd.131733$K7.66237@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>
>
> Get your nurse to teach you about LIBRARYs. I'm not in the
> business to educate every dumb fuck with an internet account.

**Then can't supply the data. I thought so.

>
>>
>>>
>>>> but I would wager
>>>
>>> How much?
>>
>> **Figure of speech. I don't actually gamble.
>
> Nor think. Figures.
>
>>
>>>
>>>> that there is sufficient O2 left and insufficient CO2, after
>>>> combustion, to suffocate a human. I reiterate: I do not have any data
>>>> to support this argument.
>>>
>>> Try it.
>>> Have someone else document it.
>>
>> **Let's see the data.
>
> Try it.
> Have someone else document it.
> Heaps of data; one dead dickhead.

**And yet, you can't supply it.

>
>
>> I won't be sticking my mouth anywhere near a cigarette, or an exhaust
>> pipe, anytime soon.
>
> Pity.
>
>> Both emit far too much toxic crap. Only complete morons stick their
>> mouths near exhaust pipes and cigarettes.
>
> Or in your case, cocks. You can die of AIDS you know?

**Me? Not a chance. Not unless I get a dodgy blood transfusion, sometime
down the track. Keep sucking on the cigarettes though. It merely confirms
just how dumb some, seemingly intelligent people can actually be.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au