I've been using Netscape's newsreader, but the damned thing seems to get
easily confused about threading, and can't keep track of whether a
thread really contains unread messages. I downloaded the most recent
version of Netscape, which has only made things worse.

I looked at XNews, but I don't like it.

Any other readers (for Windows) that people have found reliable and
convenient to use?

Sylvia.

From:	Rod Speed
Subject:	Re: Newreader software
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:11:56 +1100

"Sylvia Else" wrote in message
news:41f421bd$0$25421$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> I've been using Netscape's newsreader, but the damned thing seems to get
> easily confused about threading, and can't keep track of whether a thread
> really contains unread messages. I downloaded the most recent version of
> Netscape, which has only made things worse.
>
> I looked at XNews, but I don't like it.
>
> Any other readers (for Windows) that people have found reliable and convenient
> to use?

Outlook Express.

From:	Sylvia Else
Subject:	Re: Newreader software
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:13:26 +1100

Rod Speed wrote:

> "Sylvia Else" wrote in message
> news:41f421bd$0$25421$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>
>>I've been using Netscape's newsreader, but the damned thing seems to get
>>easily confused about threading, and can't keep track of whether a thread
>>really contains unread messages. I downloaded the most recent version of
>>Netscape, which has only made things worse.
>>
>>I looked at XNews, but I don't like it.
>>
>>Any other readers (for Windows) that people have found reliable and convenient
>>to use?
>
>
> Outlook Express.
>
>

Gimme a break.

From:	Rod Speed
Subject:	Re: Newreader software
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:56:48 +1100

"Sylvia Else" wrote in message
news:41f475e6$0$1020$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>
>
> Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> "Sylvia Else" wrote in message
>> news:41f421bd$0$25421$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>
>>>I've been using Netscape's newsreader, but the damned thing seems to get
>>>easily confused about threading, and can't keep track of whether a thread
>>>really contains unread messages. I downloaded the most recent version of
>>>Netscape, which has only made things worse.
>>>
>>>I looked at XNews, but I don't like it.
>>>
>>>Any other readers (for Windows) that people have found reliable and
>>>convenient to use?
>>
>>
>> Outlook Express.
>
> Gimme a break.

Fits your request, fuckwit.

From:	Heretic
Subject:	Re: Newreader software
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:45:23 +1100

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:13:26 +1100, Sylvia Else wrote:

>
>
> Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> "Sylvia Else" wrote in message
>> news:41f421bd$0$25421$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>
>>>I've been using Netscape's newsreader, but the damned thing seems to get
>>>easily confused about threading, and can't keep track of whether a
>>>thread really contains unread messages. I downloaded the most recent
>>>version of Netscape, which has only made things worse.
>>>
>>>I looked at XNews, but I don't like it.
>>>
>>>Any other readers (for Windows) that people have found reliable and
>>>convenient to use?
>>
>>
>> Outlook Express.
>>
>>
>>
> Gimme a break.

What's wrong with OE?

From:	Sylvia Else
Subject:	Re: Newreader software
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:04:30 +1100

Heretic wrote:

> What's wrong with OE?

What's the probability that Microsoft have finally removed the last
buffer overflow error in it?

Sylvia.

From:	Heretic
Subject:	Re: Newreader software
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:20:55 +1100

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:04:30 +1100, Sylvia Else wrote:

> Heretic wrote:
>
>> What's wrong with OE?
>
> What's the probability that Microsoft have finally removed the last
> buffer overflow error in it?

Presumably you have things set up on your machine to reduce risks. What
is the probability of an adverse effect of using OE in that case?

From:	Sylvia Else
Subject:	Re: Newreader software
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:39:37 +1100

Heretic wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:04:30 +1100, Sylvia Else wrote:
>
>
>
>
>>Heretic wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What's wrong with OE?
>>
>>What's the probability that Microsoft have finally removed the last
>>buffer overflow error in it?
>
>
> Presumably you have things set up on your machine to reduce risks. What
> is the probability of an adverse effect of using OE in that case?

I know of no way to calculate the probability either in the case of OE,
nor in the case of any other software. However, MS have demonstrated a
quite unbelievable talent for perpetrating that sort of error, and their
software is a popular target for hackers. It doesn't appear to be
sensible for me to start using OE now, given that I've never used it in
the past.

Sylvia

From:	Heretic
Subject:	Re: Newreader software
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:46:36 +1100

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:39:37 +1100, Sylvia Else wrote:

>
> Heretic wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:04:30 +1100, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Heretic wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>What's wrong with OE?
>>>
>>>What's the probability that Microsoft have finally removed the last
>>>buffer overflow error in it?
>>
>>
>> Presumably you have things set up on your machine to reduce risks.
>> What is the probability of an adverse effect of using OE in that case?
>
> I know of no way to calculate the probability either in the case of OE,
> nor in the case of any other software. However, MS have demonstrated a
> quite unbelievable talent for perpetrating that sort of error, and their
> software is a popular target for hackers. It doesn't appear to be
> sensible for me to start using OE now, given that I've never used it in
> the past.

Ok. You might find that OE is not that much more insecure than other stuff
exposed to the RW, if sensible precautions are taken. It's quite a good
newsreader, as well.

From:	Heretic
Subject:	Re: OT: Newreader software
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:03:06 -0500

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:14:20 +1100, Sylvia Else wrote:

> I've been using Netscape's newsreader, but the damned thing seems to get
> easily confused about threading, and can't keep track of whether a thread
> really contains unread messages. I downloaded the most recent version of
> Netscape, which has only made things worse.
>
> I looked at XNews, but I don't like it.
>
> Any other readers (for Windows) that people have found reliable and
> convenient to use?

Pan or Mozilla. Both available on Windows.

You could also install a Linux distro as well as Windows, to give you
all the Linus newreaders.

From:	Sylvia Else
Subject:	Re: OT: Newreader software
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:12:13 +1100

Heretic wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:14:20 +1100, Sylvia Else wrote:
>
>
>>I've been using Netscape's newsreader, but the damned thing seems to get
>>easily confused about threading, and can't keep track of whether a thread
>>really contains unread messages. I downloaded the most recent version of
>>Netscape, which has only made things worse.
>>
>>I looked at XNews, but I don't like it.
>>
>>Any other readers (for Windows) that people have found reliable and
>>convenient to use?
>
>
> Pan or Mozilla. Both available on Windows.
>
> You could also install a Linux distro as well as Windows, to give you
> all the Linus newreaders.

Thanks.

Indeed, I have Linux running on my Internet gateway - the address my
postings appear to come from is that system, not my Windows box (hang a
Window's box on the net - are you mad?). I'd just need to figure out
where I left my Window's X-server.

Sylvia.

From:	Andy
Subject:	Re: OT: Newreader software
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:18:03 +1100

Hi Sylvia..

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:14:20 +1100, Sylvia Else
wrote:

>I've been using Netscape's newsreader, but the damned thing seems to get
>easily confused about threading, and can't keep track of whether a
>thread really contains unread messages. I downloaded the most recent
>version of Netscape, which has only made things worse.
>
>I looked at XNews, but I don't like it.

XNews is more suited to binaries than general reading (imo).

>Any other readers (for Windows) that people have found reliable and
>convenient to use?

I use Forte` Agent v2.0 and love it. Highly configurable, you can grab
a 30 Day trial of it from the link below.

http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php

If you decide not to purchase after 30 days, it just reverts to Free
Agent which has a few features like spell checking disabled.

>Sylvia.

Cheers...

Andy

From:	Sylvia Else
Subject:	Re: OT: Newreader software
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:22:10 +1100

Andy wrote:

> Hi Sylvia..

Thanks for the info, Andy.

Sylvia.