Somebody I know find her brother forged her signature on mortage
application for property investment. Seems he took another woman
along to sign. His sister just found out when she apply for home loan
for herself.

She wants to cancel mortage, but her brother refuses to do anything.
He just calls her troublesome bitch.

If she go to lawyers must they report forgery to police?

From:	Horace Wachope
Subject:	Re: Forged signature - must lawyer report to police?
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:44:24 +1030

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:59:42 +1100, Jim Boutros
wrote:

>Somebody I know find her brother forged her signature on mortage
>application for property investment. Seems he took another woman
>along to sign. His sister just found out when she apply for home loan
>for herself.
>
>She wants to cancel mortage, but her brother refuses to do anything.
>He just calls her troublesome bitch.
>
>If she go to lawyers must they report forgery to police?

Why would she go to a lawyer first? Why doesn't she report it to the
police herself? Are you the brother?

From:	Heretic
Subject:	Re: Forged signature - must lawyer report to police?
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:17:14 +1100

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:44:24 +1030, Horace Wachope wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:59:42 +1100, Jim Boutros
> wrote:
>
>>Somebody I know find her brother forged her signature on mortage
>>application for property investment. Seems he took another woman along
>>to sign. His sister just found out when she apply for home loan for
>>herself.
>>
>>She wants to cancel mortage, but her brother refuses to do anything. He
>>just calls her troublesome bitch.
>>
>>If she go to lawyers must they report forgery to police?
>
> Why would she go to a lawyer first?

Because that's not the main problem. Deal with the mortgage first.

> Why doesn't she report it to the police herself?

See above.

> Are you the brother?

Who cares about the brother.

From:	Jim Boutros
Subject:	Re: Forged signature - must lawyer report to police?
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:44:23 +1100

I know she want release from mortage quickly and her brother not to go
to jail. Even though brother a pig. That's why she doesn't report it
to police now. May have to if lawyers can do nothing.

I am not brother. Just friend

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:44:24 +1030, Horace Wachope
wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:59:42 +1100, Jim Boutros
> wrote:
>
>>Somebody I know find her brother forged her signature on mortage
>>application for property investment. Seems he took another woman
>>along to sign. His sister just found out when she apply for home loan
>>for herself.
>>
>>She wants to cancel mortage, but her brother refuses to do anything.
>>He just calls her troublesome bitch.
>>
>>If she go to lawyers must they report forgery to police?
>
>Why would she go to a lawyer first? Why doesn't she report it to the
>police herself? Are you the brother?

From:	Horace Wachope
Subject:	Re: Forged signature - must lawyer report to police?
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:32:14 +1030

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:44:23 +1100, Jim Boutros
wrote:

>I know she want release from mortage quickly and her brother not to go
>to jail. Even though brother a pig. That's why she doesn't report it
>to police now. May have to if lawyers can do nothing.

She will be unable to get "released" from the mortgage without getting
her brother in trouble.

The bank will undoubtedly refer the matter to the police if the fraud
is brought to their attention. And your friend can't get "released"
from the mortgage without bringing the fraud to the bank's attention.

From:	Heretic
Subject:	Re: Forged signature - must lawyer report to police?
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:22:20 +1100

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:32:14 +1030, Horace Wachope wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:44:23 +1100, Jim Boutros
> wrote:
>
>>I know she want release from mortage quickly and her brother not to go
>>to jail. Even though brother a pig. That's why she doesn't report it to
>>police now. May have to if lawyers can do nothing.
>
> She will be unable to get "released" from the mortgage without getting
> her brother in trouble.
>
> The bank will undoubtedly refer the matter to the police if the fraud is
> brought to their attention. And your friend can't get "released" from
> the mortgage without bringing the fraud to the bank's attention.

It may not be the bank, but someone will very likely bring the matter ti
attention. The sooner she acts, the better chance of fixing the matter
quickly. She should not be concerned about the brother.

From:	Jim Boutros
Subject:	Re: Forged signature - must lawyer report to police?
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:28:12 +1100

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:32:14 +1030, Horace Wachope
wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:44:23 +1100, Jim Boutros
> wrote:
>
>>I know she want release from mortage quickly and her brother not to go
>>to jail. Even though brother a pig. That's why she doesn't report it
>>to police now. May have to if lawyers can do nothing.
>
>She will be unable to get "released" from the mortgage without getting
>her brother in trouble.
>
>The bank will undoubtedly refer the matter to the police if the fraud
>is brought to their attention. And your friend can't get "released"
>from the mortgage without bringing the fraud to the bank's attention.

Thanks Horace. Looks like big trouble for brother whatever she does.

From:	Phil Allison
Subject:	Re: Forged signature - must lawyer report to police?
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:37:26 +1100

"Jim Boutros"
> Somebody I know find her brother forged her signature on mortage
> application for property investment. Seems he took another woman
> along to sign. His sister just found out when she apply for home loan
> for herself.
>
> She wants to cancel mortage, but her brother refuses to do anything.
> He just calls her troublesome bitch.
>

** If the signing happened some time ago then it may not be easy to prove
the signature is a forgery - plus the brother will likely continue to say
it is genuine. If that is so, then the sister will need a witness to him
agreeing to doing the dirty dead.

> If she go to lawyers must they report forgery to police?

** The offence is not too serious, even if proved. Eg, in NSW "
Obtaining Credit by Fraud " carries one year max - a first offender would
likely get off with a fine.

............... Phil

From:	Heretic
Subject:	Re: Forged signature - must lawyer report to police?
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:14:34 +1100

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:59:42 +1100, Jim Boutros wrote:

> Somebody I know find her brother forged her signature on mortage
> application for property investment. Seems he took another woman along
> to sign. His sister just found out when she apply for home loan for
> herself.
>
> She wants to cancel mortage, but her brother refuses to do anything. He
> just calls her troublesome bitch.
>
> If she go to lawyers must they report forgery to police?

The lawyers may not, but the story will come out somewhere along the line.
She should be off to her lawyer ASAP, and not be too concerned about the
brother. The brother might see the light if he realises that she is
serious.

From:	Sylvia Else
Subject:	Re: Forged signature - must lawyer report to police?
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:45:58 +1100

Heretic wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:59:42 +1100, Jim Boutros wrote:

>>If she go to lawyers must they report forgery to police?
>
>
> The lawyers may not, but the story will come out somewhere along the line.
> She should be off to her lawyer ASAP, and not be too concerned about the
> brother. The brother might see the light if he realises that she is
> serious.

As usual, the OP gives no information about which jurisdiction they're in.

The sister may be committing an offence by not reporting it. In NSW, for
example, it looks to me like this might be a "serious indictable
offence". If it is, then the sister has no choice but to report it.

I agree about the sentiment re the brother. If he'd do that to her, then
he doesn't deserve filial protection.

Sylvia.