Sorry for the cross post.

I won't be posting for a while so apologies in advance.

I purchased a Voxson portable DVD player today and
I was rather disappointed to see it was labelled both
on the unit itself and in the manual with a big "region 4"
symbol....

BUT....

I put a few of my R1 disks into it and it played them all flawlessly.
So what gives? Are these being sold with the wrong labels on them
and they're all region free?

Model is SL-50

From:	Chriz
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:29:06 +1100

Once upon a time Chasing Kate decided to write:

> Sorry for the cross post.
>
> I won't be posting for a while so apologies in advance.
>
> I purchased a Voxson portable DVD player today and
> I was rather disappointed to see it was labelled both
> on the unit itself and in the manual with a big "region 4"
> symbol....
>
> BUT....
>
> I put a few of my R1 disks into it and it played them all flawlessly.
> So what gives? Are these being sold with the wrong labels on them
> and they're all region free?
>
> Model is SL-50

All new players these days play multi-region, despite the labelling. I found
this out when my 2002 player played discs of different regions.

From:	Massimis
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:31:17 +0800

"Chasing Kate" wrote in message
news:41F23728.B5ECD4BB@internode.on.net...
> Sorry for the cross post.
>
> I won't be posting for a while so apologies in advance.
>
> I purchased a Voxson portable DVD player today and
> I was rather disappointed to see it was labelled both
> on the unit itself and in the manual with a big "region 4"
> symbol....
>
> BUT....
>
> I put a few of my R1 disks into it and it played them all flawlessly.
> So what gives? Are these being sold with the wrong labels on them
> and they're all region free?
>
> Model is SL-50
>
I would take it back to the store and demand an exchange for a Region 4 only
machine, or a full refund of my purchase price.
I would also check that it is not Macrovision free!!!!

From:	Chasing Kate
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:30:34 +1030

Massimis wrote:

> "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
> news:41F23728.B5ECD4BB@internode.on.net...
> > Sorry for the cross post.
> >
> > I won't be posting for a while so apologies in advance.
> >
> > I purchased a Voxson portable DVD player today and
> > I was rather disappointed to see it was labelled both
> > on the unit itself and in the manual with a big "region 4"
> > symbol....
> >
> > BUT....
> >
> > I put a few of my R1 disks into it and it played them all flawlessly.
> > So what gives? Are these being sold with the wrong labels on them
> > and they're all region free?
> >
> > Model is SL-50
> >
> I would take it back to the store and demand an exchange for a Region 4 only
> machine, or a full refund of my purchase price.
> I would also check that it is not Macrovision free!!!!

Oh ha ha

I think this is great... Go Harvey Norman and go Voxson
for producing multi region machines that are multi region
out of the box

From:	Ken Oaf
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:40:10 +1100

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:51:12 +1030, Chasing Kate
wrote:

> Sorry for the cross post.
>
> I won't be posting for a while so apologies in advance.
>
> I purchased a Voxson portable DVD player today and
> I was rather disappointed to see it was labelled both
> on the unit itself and in the manual with a big "region 4"
> symbol....
>
> BUT....
>
> I put a few of my R1 disks into it and it played them all flawlessly.
> So what gives? Are these being sold with the wrong labels on them
> and they're all region free?
>
> Model is SL-50

Dick Smith used to have the crack for making the Voxson players region free on
their web site.

From:	Darkfalz
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	22 Jan 2005 04:53:45 -0800

I packed away my useless billion dollar 5.1 system today and put the
tiny little $60 magnavox unit in the cabinet.

Maybe I can get a few bucks for it and maybe I'll just throw it in the
garbage.

From:	Caitlin
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:27:46 +1100

"Chasing Kate" wrote in message
news:41F23728.B5ECD4BB@internode.on.net...
> Sorry for the cross post.
>
> I won't be posting for a while so apologies in advance.
>
> I purchased a Voxson portable DVD player today and
> I was rather disappointed to see it was labelled both
> on the unit itself and in the manual with a big "region 4"
> symbol....
>
> BUT....
>
> I put a few of my R1 disks into it and it played them all flawlessly.
> So what gives? Are these being sold with the wrong labels on them
> and they're all region free?
>
> Model is SL-50
>

Even better - I bought an LG external DVD drive burner for my laptop last
week - and discovered it was current region 'not selected'. It's certainly
the first time I've encountered a computer DVD drive region free out of the
box. I suspect it is an error in this case, and a step was missed in the
factory.

From:	Ken Oaf
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:39:08 +1100

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:27:46 +1100, "Caitlin"
wrote:

> Even better - I bought an LG external DVD drive burner for my laptop last
> week - and discovered it was current region 'not selected'. It's certainly
> the first time I've encountered a computer DVD drive region free out of the
> box. I suspect it is an error in this case, and a step was missed in the
> factory.

I have never seen a new computer DVD driver or burner that wasn't region free.
They all leave the factory that way.

If ever you find one that has a region set, then it is a second hand unit.

From:	Caitlin
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:53:08 +1100

"Ken Oaf" wrote in message
news:88i4v0l5vc2g6u2qch1hh091dr4jusp40j@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:27:46 +1100, "Caitlin"
> wrote:
>
>> Even better - I bought an LG external DVD drive burner for my laptop last
>> week - and discovered it was current region 'not selected'. It's
>> certainly
>> the first time I've encountered a computer DVD drive region free out of
>> the
>> box. I suspect it is an error in this case, and a step was missed in the
>> factory.
>
> I have never seen a new computer DVD driver or burner that wasn't region
> free.
> They all leave the factory that way.
>
> If ever you find one that has a region set, then it is a second hand unit.
>
>

That doesn't compute to me - no user would ever set the region themselves!
If I never set the region, I can play any region DVD. How do you then
explain that most people with DVD drives in their PCs have a region set
(Hence websites specifically to 'crack' the DVD firmware to allow
multiregion?).

From:	lord zog
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:49:20 +1100

Caitlin wrote:

> That doesn't compute to me - no user would ever set the region themselves!
> If I never set the region, I can play any region DVD. How do you then
> explain that most people with DVD drives in their PCs have a region set
> (Hence websites specifically to 'crack' the DVD firmware to allow
> multiregion?).

The DVD player software does the region setting. It's horribly irritating.

--
Jon
-----
Cats are the embodiment of angels here on Earth.

From:	Caitlin
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:40:45 +1100

"lord zog" wrote in message
news:41f3ab54$0$349$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...
> Caitlin wrote:
>
>> That doesn't compute to me - no user would ever set the region
>> themselves! If I never set the region, I can play any region DVD. How do
>> you then explain that most people with DVD drives in their PCs have a
>> region set (Hence websites specifically to 'crack' the DVD firmware to
>> allow multiregion?).
>
> The DVD player software does the region setting. It's horribly irritating.
>
> --
Actually normally it's both - hardware as well - so more of a bugger to fix
than a standalone player.

From:	H00ting at nyte
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:40:10 GMT

"Caitlin" wrote in message
news:41f3b780$0$360$61c65585@un-2park-reader-02.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...
>
> "lord zog" wrote in message
> news:41f3ab54$0$349$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...
>> Caitlin wrote:
>>
>>> That doesn't compute to me - no user would ever set the region
>>> themselves! If I never set the region, I can play any region DVD. How do
>>> you then explain that most people with DVD drives in their PCs have a
>>> region set (Hence websites specifically to 'crack' the DVD firmware to
>>> allow multiregion?).
>>
>> The DVD player software does the region setting. It's horribly
>> irritating.
>>
>> --
> Actually normally it's both - hardware as well - so more of a bugger to
> fix than a standalone player.
There's actually a good explanantion of this at
http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=239

From:	Ack_OZ
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:13:38 +1000

most (or a lot?) of dvd drives set their own region based on the most
recent dvd after a certain number have been played...

Caitlin wrote:
> That doesn't compute to me - no user would ever set the region themselves!
> If I never set the region, I can play any region DVD. How do you then
> explain that most people with DVD drives in their PCs have a region set
> (Hence websites specifically to 'crack' the DVD firmware to allow
> multiregion?).
>
>

From:	Caitlin
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:22:37 +1100

"Ack_OZ" wrote in message
news:41f25180$0$729$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-02.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au...
> most (or a lot?) of dvd drives set their own region based on the most
> recent dvd after a certain number have been played...
>

It did occur to me after Ken's post that maybe the standard operation was
that it set the region based on the first DVD it plays. Oh well - maybe I
haven't played enough DVDs yet - I've only had it a few weeks. I'll wait and
see.

From:	steam3801
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:48:28 +1100

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:22:37 +1100, "Caitlin"
- in a blinding flash of
brilliance - wrote:

>
>"Ack_OZ" wrote in message
>news:41f25180$0$729$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-02.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au...
>> most (or a lot?) of dvd drives set their own region based on the most
>> recent dvd after a certain number have been played...
>>
>
>It did occur to me after Ken's post that maybe the standard operation was
>that it set the region based on the first DVD it plays. Oh well - maybe I
>haven't played enough DVDs yet - I've only had it a few weeks. I'll wait and
>see.

My laptop gives me 5 "region free" goes - the 5th one, you're stuck
with!!!

--
You know it makes sense.
steam3801

From:	dude
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:31:42 +1100

: My laptop gives me 5 "region free" goes - the 5th one, you're stuck
: with!!!

Crikey - you'd want to know that before you got to that 5th choice. Regions are
f*cked - they shouldn't exist.

From:	spodosaurus
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:20:05 +0800

steam3801 wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:22:37 +1100, "Caitlin"
> - in a blinding flash of
> brilliance - wrote:
>
>
>>"Ack_OZ" wrote in message
>>news:41f25180$0$729$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-02.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au...
>>
>>>most (or a lot?) of dvd drives set their own region based on the most
>>>recent dvd after a certain number have been played...
>>>
>>
>>It did occur to me after Ken's post that maybe the standard operation was
>>that it set the region based on the first DVD it plays. Oh well - maybe I
>>haven't played enough DVDs yet - I've only had it a few weeks. I'll wait and
>>see.
>
>
> My laptop gives me 5 "region free" goes - the 5th one, you're stuck
> with!!!
>

Same with my laptop. And that really shits me, considering I watch
region 1 and region 4 DVDs. I'm hoping I'll be able to use dvd43 on it
and not have to worry any more. I doubt there's a cracked firmware for
Dell laptop dvd player/cdburners.

Cheers,

Ari

--
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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. To jump to the end
of the story, as a result of this I need a bone marrow transplant. Many
people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant, too. Please
volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

From:	Some Bloke
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:42:25 +1000

>I doubt there's a cracked firmware for Dell laptop dvd player/cdburners.
>

Seek and you will find...

I was pretty happy that not only did my burner become region-free, it
also became a - media burner as well as a plus media burner. Still not
dual-layer, but never mind.

Anyway, look at

http://tdb.rpc1.org/

for Dell DVD burner region-free cracks.

SB

From:	Caitlin
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:20:11 +1100

"spodosaurus" wrote in message
news:41f27e0b$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> steam3801 wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:22:37 +1100, "Caitlin"
>> - in a blinding flash of
>> brilliance - wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Ack_OZ" wrote in message
>>>news:41f25180$0$729$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-02.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au...
>>>
>>>>most (or a lot?) of dvd drives set their own region based on the most
>>>>recent dvd after a certain number have been played...
>>>>
>>>
>>>It did occur to me after Ken's post that maybe the standard operation was
>>>that it set the region based on the first DVD it plays. Oh well - maybe I
>>>haven't played enough DVDs yet - I've only had it a few weeks. I'll wait
>>>and see.
>>
>>
>> My laptop gives me 5 "region free" goes - the 5th one, you're stuck
>> with!!!
>>
>
> Same with my laptop. And that really shits me, considering I watch region
> 1 and region 4 DVDs. I'm hoping I'll be able to use dvd43 on it and not
> have to worry any more. I doubt there's a cracked firmware for Dell laptop
> dvd player/cdburners.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ari
>
It's not giving you 5 'region frees' - what you'll find is computer DVD
players allow 5 CHANGES of region. After that it locks on the last region.
The DVD player I have bought has not registered ANY region setting yet
(knock on wood)

From:	Ken Oaf
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:55:15 +1100

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:22:37 +1100, "Caitlin"
wrote:

> It did occur to me after Ken's post that maybe the standard operation was
> that it set the region based on the first DVD it plays. Oh well - maybe I
> haven't played enough DVDs yet - I've only had it a few weeks. I'll wait and
> see.

That is correct. You are allowed 5 changes. After the 5th change, the drive
locks to that region.

From:	Josh B
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:24:38 +1100

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:53:08 +1100, Caitlin (or one of their many
personalities) said......

> >> Even better - I bought an LG external DVD drive burner for my laptop last
> >> week - and discovered it was current region 'not selected'. It's
> >> certainly
> >> the first time I've encountered a computer DVD drive region free out of
> >> the
> >> box. I suspect it is an error in this case, and a step was missed in the
> >> factory.
> >
> > I have never seen a new computer DVD driver or burner that wasn't region
> > free.
> > They all leave the factory that way.
> >
> > If ever you find one that has a region set, then it is a second hand unit.
>
> That doesn't compute to me - no user would ever set the region themselves!
> If I never set the region, I can play any region DVD. How do you then
> explain that most people with DVD drives in their PCs have a region set
> (Hence websites specifically to 'crack' the DVD firmware to allow
> multiregion?).

Most idiots will, if told they have to.

My new HP computer with DVD burner reports that the region is 'not
selected'.

From:	Caitlin
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:05:42 +1100

"Ken Oaf" wrote in message
news:88i4v0l5vc2g6u2qch1hh091dr4jusp40j@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:27:46 +1100, "Caitlin"
> wrote:
>
>> Even better - I bought an LG external DVD drive burner for my laptop last
>> week - and discovered it was current region 'not selected'. It's
>> certainly
>> the first time I've encountered a computer DVD drive region free out of
>> the
>> box. I suspect it is an error in this case, and a step was missed in the
>> factory.
>
> I have never seen a new computer DVD driver or burner that wasn't region
> free.
> They all leave the factory that way.
>
> If ever you find one that has a region set, then it is a second hand unit.
>
>
On reflection - When you say region set, do you mean region 'locked'? Ie.
when all 5 'changes' have been used up? I'm not talking about that. I mean
that no default starting region has been set - so any region can be played
without this counter progressing. Note it is also not region '0'. Personally
I've never seem this before.

From:	Natalie
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:55:57 +1100

Caitlin wrote:
>
> On reflection - When you say region set, do you mean region 'locked'? Ie.
> when all 5 'changes' have been used up? I'm not talking about that. I mean
> that no default starting region has been set - so any region can be played
> without this counter progressing. Note it is also not region '0'. Personally
> I've never seem this before.

I just think you're just not doing your homework. I would never buy
anything that limited my use of it. My DVD ROM plays anything you chuck
at it.

Natalie

From:	Caitlin
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:47:19 +1100

"Natalie" wrote in message
news:41F2F61D.1DB3C0B4@iprimus.com.au...
> Caitlin wrote:
>>
>> On reflection - When you say region set, do you mean region 'locked'? Ie.
>> when all 5 'changes' have been used up? I'm not talking about that. I
>> mean
>> that no default starting region has been set - so any region can be
>> played
>> without this counter progressing. Note it is also not region '0'.
>> Personally
>> I've never seem this before.
>
> I just think you're just not doing your homework. I would never buy
> anything that limited my use of it. My DVD ROM plays anything you chuck
> at it.
>
> Natalie

Well you must be a very clever girl. You do BUY DVDs from overseas I take
it??

From:	Natalie
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:30:24 +1100

Caitlin wrote:
>
> "Natalie" wrote in message
> >
> > I just think you're just not doing your homework. I would never buy
> > anything that limited my use of it. My DVD ROM plays anything you chuck
> > at it.
>
> Well you must be a very clever girl. You do BUY DVDs from overseas I take
> it??

Indeed I do, not many because I prefer to do my research before rushing
in and buying them when we often get better releases in R4, but enough.

Natalie

From:	spodosaurus
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:27:28 +0800

Ken Oaf wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:27:46 +1100, "Caitlin"
> wrote:
>
>
>>Even better - I bought an LG external DVD drive burner for my laptop last
>>week - and discovered it was current region 'not selected'. It's certainly
>>the first time I've encountered a computer DVD drive region free out of the
>>box. I suspect it is an error in this case, and a step was missed in the
>>factory.
>
>
> I have never seen a new computer DVD driver or burner that wasn't region free.
> They all leave the factory that way.
>
> If ever you find one that has a region set, then it is a second hand unit.
>
>
>

I just discovered a similar thing with my Pioneer DVR107D...the program
I was using complained that the drive's region coding was set to 'not
set' or 'not selected' or some such and could not proceed. I didn't want
to set the region code, so I downloaded DVD43 and used that instead. I
was asked if I wanted to set the device's region coding, adn I opted not
to, but I think it set itself to region 4 anyway....

--
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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. To jump to the end
of the story, as a result of this I need a bone marrow transplant. Many
people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant, too. Please
volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

From:	Caitlin
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:22:56 +1100

"spodosaurus" wrote in message
news:41f27fc7$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> Ken Oaf wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:27:46 +1100, "Caitlin"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Even better - I bought an LG external DVD drive burner for my laptop last
>>>week - and discovered it was current region 'not selected'. It's
>>>certainly the first time I've encountered a computer DVD drive region
>>>free out of the box. I suspect it is an error in this case, and a step
>>>was missed in the factory.
>>
>>
>> I have never seen a new computer DVD driver or burner that wasn't region
>> free.
>> They all leave the factory that way.
>>
>> If ever you find one that has a region set, then it is a second hand
>> unit.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I just discovered a similar thing with my Pioneer DVR107D...the program I
> was using complained that the drive's region coding was set to 'not set'
> or 'not selected' or some such and could not proceed. I didn't want to set
> the region code, so I downloaded DVD43 and used that instead. I was asked
> if I wanted to set the device's region coding, adn I opted not to, but I
> think it set itself to region 4 anyway....
>
Maybe mine hasn't because I already have some software on my computer (that
I didn't think I was actually using) that I used to try play other regions
on my build in DVD drive on my laptop. Maybe it has had some affect that
means this drive isn't going to ask to be set. Here's hoping.

From:	H00ting at nyte
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:00:45 GMT

"Ken Oaf" wrote in message
news:88i4v0l5vc2g6u2qch1hh091dr4jusp40j@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:27:46 +1100, "Caitlin"
> wrote:
>
>> Even better - I bought an LG external DVD drive burner for my laptop last
>> week - and discovered it was current region 'not selected'. It's
>> certainly
>> the first time I've encountered a computer DVD drive region free out of
>> the
>> box. I suspect it is an error in this case, and a step was missed in the
>> factory.
>
> I have never seen a new computer DVD driver or burner that wasn't region
> free.
> They all leave the factory that way.
>
> If ever you find one that has a region set, then it is a second hand unit.
>
My Sony DVD striaght out of the box, brand new was set to Region 4.

From:	Ken Oaf
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:57:16 +1100

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:00:45 GMT, "H00ting@nyte" <347kj2598bfs987@cep24kts.cn>
wrote:

> > If ever you find one that has a region set, then it is a second hand unit.
> >
> My Sony DVD striaght out of the box, brand new was set to Region 4.

Then your Sony had been taken out of its box and used by someone before you got
it.

From:	Chriz
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:15:40 +1100

Once upon a time Ken Oaf decided to write:

> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:00:45 GMT, "H00ting@nyte"
> <347kj2598bfs987@cep24kts.cn> wrote:
>
>>> If ever you find one that has a region set, then it is a second
>>> hand unit.
>>>
>> My Sony DVD striaght out of the box, brand new was set to Region 4.
>
> Then your Sony had been taken out of its box and used by someone
> before you got it.

Unless it's an old model that was sitting in the stock pile.

From:	H00ting at nyte
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:46:30 GMT

"Ken Oaf" wrote in message
news:p0j5v0p9pc7nb23ud09lp0hfv2nqhqq2po@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:00:45 GMT, "H00ting@nyte"
> <347kj2598bfs987@cep24kts.cn>
> wrote:
>
>> > If ever you find one that has a region set, then it is a second hand
>> > unit.
>> >
>> My Sony DVD striaght out of the box, brand new was set to Region 4.
>
> Then your Sony had been taken out of its box and used by someone before
> you got
> it.
>
No it hadn't. It came from the factory like that. All of the packaging was
original.

From:	Kevin V. Russell
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:43:09 GMT

Whatever posessed you to buy a DVD player that was even labelled R4 only?

I thought the ACCC had already outlawed this nonsense anyhoo?

From:	Paul Dwerryhouse
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:10:18 +1100

"Kevin V. Russell" writes:

>I thought the ACCC had already outlawed this nonsense anyhoo?

No, that was the New Zealand equivalent.

The ACCC looked at it a few years ago. I doubt they will look at it again, now
that the government has put its own man in the top job there...

--
Paul Dwerryhouse | PGP Key ID:
(not in) Melbourne, Australia | 0x6B91B584

From:	FootyFacts
Subject:	Re: Portable DVD player region free despite labeling on box.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:48:30 +1100

"Paul Dwerryhouse" wrote in message news:aes9c2-767.ln1@doof.home...
> "Kevin V. Russell" writes:
>
>>I thought the ACCC had already outlawed this nonsense anyhoo?
>
> No, that was the New Zealand equivalent.
>
> The ACCC looked at it a few years ago. I doubt they will look at it again, now
> that the government has put its own man in the top job there...
>
> --
> Paul Dwerryhouse | PGP Key ID:
> (not in) Melbourne, Australia | 0x6B91B584

It is not illegal to make a machine purely region 4
(and when you think about it why should it be
the consumer has the ultimate right not to buy it)
but what they did do was to advise that it was illegal to block
region free / non-region 4 players & discs coming into the country
so basically market forces drove the break down of an artificial
barrier that the big boys were only to keen to have because
this allowed a flood of no-names into the country and
consumers sure did vote with their $$$

gF