i went & bought one of these last night from Target as they had a special &
i know i can return it if any problems, i am using TDK dvd-r on it & every
second disk gets rejected! It comes up with 'self check' then tells me to
remove the disk or disk problem etc. & they are from the same batch i use on
the pc burner with no problems, i thought tdk were good media but maybe the
e55 is crap? either way i guess i will be taking it back for a refund due to
it not being very media friendly & wait for the price of hard drive models
to drop

From:	Jeff Mason
Subject:	Re: Panasonic e55 dvd recorder crap?
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 05:47:16 GMT

I have one of the earlier Panasonics (I think EMR20) and I have a similar
problem with1 in 10 rejects. It turns off and I turn it back on again. It
then restores or whatever. I us the same medium to burn again, usually
successfully. Have only lost one dvd blank with U11 message out of 400 in 2
years

"free2002" wrote in message
news:41f08222$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> i went & bought one of these last night from Target as they had a special
&
> i know i can return it if any problems, i am using TDK dvd-r on it & every
> second disk gets rejected! It comes up with 'self check' then tells me to
> remove the disk or disk problem etc. & they are from the same batch i use
on
> the pc burner with no problems, i thought tdk were good media but maybe
the
> e55 is crap? either way i guess i will be taking it back for a refund due
to
> it not being very media friendly & wait for the price of hard drive models
> to drop
>
>

From:	free2002
Subject:	Re: Panasonic e55 dvd recorder crap?
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:25:50 +1100

i seem to be able to do 2 discs then need to turn it off or even disconnect
the power for awhile then try again & its fine, its like the drive is
getting overheated easily as the blanks are fairly warm when i take them out
of the drive even if they are rejected, is this normal?

"Jeff Mason" wrote in message
news:EH0Id.126778$K7.16687@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>I have one of the earlier Panasonics (I think EMR20) and I have a similar
> problem with1 in 10 rejects. It turns off and I turn it back on again. It
> then restores or whatever. I us the same medium to burn again, usually
> successfully. Have only lost one dvd blank with U11 message out of 400 in
> 2
> years
>
>
>
> "free2002" wrote in message
> news:41f08222$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
>> i went & bought one of these last night from Target as they had a special
> &
>> i know i can return it if any problems, i am using TDK dvd-r on it &
>> every
>> second disk gets rejected! It comes up with 'self check' then tells me to
>> remove the disk or disk problem etc. & they are from the same batch i use
> on
>> the pc burner with no problems, i thought tdk were good media but maybe
> the
>> e55 is crap? either way i guess i will be taking it back for a refund due
> to
>> it not being very media friendly & wait for the price of hard drive
>> models
>> to drop
>>
>>
>
>

From:	angryofmayfair
Subject:	Re: Panasonic e55 dvd recorder crap?
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:13:16 +1100

It might be that the Panny is struggling to burn the cheap discs and has had
to 'turn the wick up' on the laser, which would result in more heat being
generated...
Try it with a pack of (expensive) panasonic blanks, if you still get the
same probelm then it's Panasonics problem not yours - take it back...
If the Panny blanks work OK without overheating then it's a case of finding
suitable cheap blanks that work - try the Ritek's they work fine in my Panny
HS2

"free2002" wrote in message
news:41f0f4c9$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
>i seem to be able to do 2 discs then need to turn it off or even disconnect
>the power for awhile then try again & its fine, its like the drive is
>getting overheated easily as the blanks are fairly warm when i take them
>out of the drive even if they are rejected, is this normal?
>
> "Jeff Mason" wrote in message
> news:EH0Id.126778$K7.16687@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>I have one of the earlier Panasonics (I think EMR20) and I have a similar
>> problem with1 in 10 rejects. It turns off and I turn it back on again. It
>> then restores or whatever. I us the same medium to burn again, usually
>> successfully. Have only lost one dvd blank with U11 message out of 400 in
>> 2
>> years
>>
>>
>>
>> "free2002" wrote in message
>> news:41f08222$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
>>> i went & bought one of these last night from Target as they had a
>>> special
>> &
>>> i know i can return it if any problems, i am using TDK dvd-r on it &
>>> every
>>> second disk gets rejected! It comes up with 'self check' then tells me
>>> to
>>> remove the disk or disk problem etc. & they are from the same batch i
>>> use
>> on
>>> the pc burner with no problems, i thought tdk were good media but maybe
>> the
>>> e55 is crap? either way i guess i will be taking it back for a refund
>>> due
>> to
>>> it not being very media friendly & wait for the price of hard drive
>>> models
>>> to drop
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

From:	Dack
Subject:	Re: Panasonic e55 dvd recorder crap?
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:54:07 +1100

i use sony on our E55,never had a problem with em.
Also i managed to pick up the E85 with the 80gig HD at harvey norman for
$1049 which was on special during the post christmas sales.

"angryofmayfair" wrote in message
news:35dd58F4lh9csU1@individual.net...
> It might be that the Panny is struggling to burn the cheap discs and has
had
> to 'turn the wick up' on the laser, which would result in more heat being
> generated...
> Try it with a pack of (expensive) panasonic blanks, if you still get the
> same probelm then it's Panasonics problem not yours - take it back...
> If the Panny blanks work OK without overheating then it's a case of
finding
> suitable cheap blanks that work - try the Ritek's they work fine in my
Panny
> HS2
>
>
>
> "free2002" wrote in message
> news:41f0f4c9$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> >i seem to be able to do 2 discs then need to turn it off or even
disconnect
> >the power for awhile then try again & its fine, its like the drive is
> >getting overheated easily as the blanks are fairly warm when i take them
> >out of the drive even if they are rejected, is this normal?
> >
> > "Jeff Mason" wrote in message
> > news:EH0Id.126778$K7.16687@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >>I have one of the earlier Panasonics (I think EMR20) and I have a
similar
> >> problem with1 in 10 rejects. It turns off and I turn it back on again.
It
> >> then restores or whatever. I us the same medium to burn again, usually
> >> successfully. Have only lost one dvd blank with U11 message out of 400
in
> >> 2
> >> years
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "free2002" wrote in message
> >> news:41f08222$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> >>> i went & bought one of these last night from Target as they had a
> >>> special
> >> &
> >>> i know i can return it if any problems, i am using TDK dvd-r on it &
> >>> every
> >>> second disk gets rejected! It comes up with 'self check' then tells me
> >>> to
> >>> remove the disk or disk problem etc. & they are from the same batch i
> >>> use
> >> on
> >>> the pc burner with no problems, i thought tdk were good media but
maybe
> >> the
> >>> e55 is crap? either way i guess i will be taking it back for a refund
> >>> due
> >> to
> >>> it not being very media friendly & wait for the price of hard drive
> >>> models
> >>> to drop
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

From:	tp
Subject:	Re: Panasonic e55 dvd recorder crap?
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:35:32 GMT

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:16:37 +1100, "free2002"
wrote:

>i went & bought one of these last night from Target as they had a special &
>i know i can return it if any problems, i am using TDK dvd-r on it & every
>second disk gets rejected! It comes up with 'self check' then tells me to
>remove the disk or disk problem etc. & they are from the same batch i use on
>the pc burner with no problems, i thought tdk were good media but maybe the
>e55 is crap? either way i guess i will be taking it back for a refund due to
>it not being very media friendly & wait for the price of hard drive models
>to drop

Tdk don't like my pioneer so don't use them. I use orion 8x on my
pioneer and two panasonic recorders. Burnt 300 or so now. Only 2
failed due to power failures.

From:	Rassilon
Subject:	Re: Panasonic e55 dvd recorder crap?
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:11:25 +1030

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:35:32 GMT, tp@nowhere.com (tp) wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:16:37 +1100, "free2002"
> wrote:
>
>>i went & bought one of these last night from Target as they had a special &
>>i know i can return it if any problems, i am using TDK dvd-r on it & every
>>second disk gets rejected! It comes up with 'self check' then tells me to
>>remove the disk or disk problem etc. & they are from the same batch i use on
>>the pc burner with no problems, i thought tdk were good media but maybe the
>>e55 is crap? either way i guess i will be taking it back for a refund due to
>>it not being very media friendly & wait for the price of hard drive models
>>to drop
>
>Tdk don't like my pioneer so don't use them. I use orion 8x on my
>pioneer and two panasonic recorders. Burnt 300 or so now. Only 2
>failed due to power failures.

My Pioneer 520h doesnt like TDK 4x DVD-RW. It can handle 2x though.
It doesn't even like Pioneer either for that matter. Which seems
strange.

From:	bn
Subject:	Re: Panasonic e55 dvd recorder crap?
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 05:15:17 GMT

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:16:37 +1100, "free2002"
wrote:

>i went & bought one of these last night from Target as they had a special &
>i know i can return it if any problems, i am using TDK dvd-r on it & every
>second disk gets rejected! It comes up with 'self check' then tells me to
>remove the disk or disk problem etc. & they are from the same batch i use on
>the pc burner with no problems, i thought tdk were good media but maybe the
>e55 is crap? either way i guess i will be taking it back for a refund due to
>it not being very media friendly & wait for the price of hard drive models
>to drop
>

Fake tdk media perhaps?

I own 2 panasonic recorders and don't have any problems but then again
I don't use cheap media. Good media costs more than $1 per disc.

From:	Vile Merchant
Subject:	Re: Panasonic e55 dvd recorder crap?
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:36:45 +1100

"bn" wrote in message
news:ks31v0ttjrra2ntbclj0hht0if7kcpqubc@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:16:37 +1100, "free2002"
> wrote:
>
> >i went & bought one of these last night from Target as they had a special
&
> >i know i can return it if any problems, i am using TDK dvd-r on it &
every
> >second disk gets rejected! It comes up with 'self check' then tells me to
> >remove the disk or disk problem etc. & they are from the same batch i use
on
> >the pc burner with no problems, i thought tdk were good media but maybe
the
> >e55 is crap? either way i guess i will be taking it back for a refund due
to
> >it not being very media friendly & wait for the price of hard drive
models
> >to drop
> >
>
> Fake tdk media perhaps?
>
> I own 2 panasonic recorders and don't have any problems but then again
> I don't use cheap media. Good media costs more than $1 per disc.

rubbish. I pay $25 for 50 packs of Ritek purple 4x discs and get no
failures at all, ever. I've burnt hundreds of the bastards. People, stop
blaming the media for your crappy burners, crappily setup PC's and these
total crapshit DVD recorders!

From:	Trevor S
Subject:	Re: Panasonic e55 dvd recorder crap?
Date:	21 Jan 2005 07:36:16 GMT

"free2002" wrote in
news:41f08222$1@duster.adelaide.on.net:

> i went & bought one of these last night from Target as they had a
> special & i know i can return it if any problems, i am using TDK dvd-r
> on it & every second disk gets rejected! It comes up with 'self check'
> then tells me to remove the disk or disk problem etc. & they are from
> the same batch i use on the pc burner with no problems, i thought tdk
> were good media but maybe the e55 is crap? either way i guess i will
> be taking it back for a refund due to it not being very media friendly
> & wait for the price of hard drive models to drop

Can't speak for the recorder, my LG DVD burner is spitting over some TDK -R
.. First (and last time) I will be using that. It won't work in my Panny
E-100 either. The Orion 4x media I use works a treat in my Panny E-100,
burnt about 50 or so.

--
Trevor S

"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
-Albert Einstein

From:	angryofmayfair
Subject:	Re: Panasonic e55 dvd recorder crap?
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:34:57 +1100

>
> Can't speak for the recorder, my LG DVD burner is spitting over some
> TDK -R
> . First (and last time) I will be using that. It won't work in my Panny
> E-100 either. The Orion 4x media I use works a treat in my Panny E-100,
> burnt about 50 or so.

That's weird - TDK are supposed to be a good brand they are more expensive
than a lot of the cheaper ones.
But then TDK had a lot of problems with their miniDV tape too - head
clogging was common with TDK, perhaps I will stay away from it, pity as I
was thinking of buying a spindle of 50 TDK blanks...

FWIW I have been using Ritek 8x -r with my old(!) Pansonic HS2 as well as an
LG DVD burner and have had no problems at all...

Anyway thanks for the info Trev.

From:	free2002
Subject:	Re: Panasonic e55 dvd recorder crap?
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:40:42 +1100

thats what i thought but like alot of well known brands, maybe tdk has also
turned to crap

"angryofmayfair" wrote in message
news:35btf4F4jji1uU1@individual.net...
> >
>> Can't speak for the recorder, my LG DVD burner is spitting over some
>> TDK -R
>> . First (and last time) I will be using that. It won't work in my Panny
>> E-100 either. The Orion 4x media I use works a treat in my Panny E-100,
>> burnt about 50 or so.
>
> That's weird - TDK are supposed to be a good brand they are more expensive
> than a lot of the cheaper ones.
> But then TDK had a lot of problems with their miniDV tape too - head
> clogging was common with TDK, perhaps I will stay away from it, pity as I
> was thinking of buying a spindle of 50 TDK blanks...
>
> FWIW I have been using Ritek 8x -r with my old(!) Pansonic HS2 as well as
> an LG DVD burner and have had no problems at all...
>
> Anyway thanks for the info Trev.

From:	maiet
Subject:	Re: Panasonic e55 dvd recorder crap?
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:43:43 +1100

oh yeah the cheap 50 pack white top tdk are total bullshit, usally around
$35 for 50.

"free2002" wrote in message
news:41f0ea35$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> thats what i thought but like alot of well known brands, maybe tdk has
also
> turned to crap
>
> "angryofmayfair" wrote in message
> news:35btf4F4jji1uU1@individual.net...
> > >
> >> Can't speak for the recorder, my LG DVD burner is spitting over some
> >> TDK -R
> >> . First (and last time) I will be using that. It won't work in my
Panny
> >> E-100 either. The Orion 4x media I use works a treat in my Panny
E-100,
> >> burnt about 50 or so.
> >
> > That's weird - TDK are supposed to be a good brand they are more
expensive
> > than a lot of the cheaper ones.
> > But then TDK had a lot of problems with their miniDV tape too - head
> > clogging was common with TDK, perhaps I will stay away from it, pity as
I
> > was thinking of buying a spindle of 50 TDK blanks...
> >
> > FWIW I have been using Ritek 8x -r with my old(!) Pansonic HS2 as well
as
> > an LG DVD burner and have had no problems at all...
> >
> > Anyway thanks for the info Trev.
>
>

From:	free2002
Subject:	Re: Panasonic e55 dvd recorder crap?
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:23:14 +1100

no these are the grey top non printable, i didnt want to get printable
because too easy to fake, these are made in Taiwan though, whereas the last
batch i bought was made in Japan, dunno if that makes a difference but ive
had no problems on the pc burner or Pioneer player

"maiet" wrote in message
news:41f0eaef$0$14721$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> oh yeah the cheap 50 pack white top tdk are total bullshit, usally around
> $35 for 50.
>
>
> "free2002" wrote in message
> news:41f0ea35$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
>> thats what i thought but like alot of well known brands, maybe tdk has
> also
>> turned to crap
>>
>> "angryofmayfair" wrote in message
>> news:35btf4F4jji1uU1@individual.net...
>> > >
>> >> Can't speak for the recorder, my LG DVD burner is spitting over some
>> >> TDK -R
>> >> . First (and last time) I will be using that. It won't work in my
> Panny
>> >> E-100 either. The Orion 4x media I use works a treat in my Panny
> E-100,
>> >> burnt about 50 or so.
>> >
>> > That's weird - TDK are supposed to be a good brand they are more
> expensive
>> > than a lot of the cheaper ones.
>> > But then TDK had a lot of problems with their miniDV tape too - head
>> > clogging was common with TDK, perhaps I will stay away from it, pity as
> I
>> > was thinking of buying a spindle of 50 TDK blanks...
>> >
>> > FWIW I have been using Ritek 8x -r with my old(!) Pansonic HS2 as well
> as
>> > an LG DVD burner and have had no problems at all...
>> >
>> > Anyway thanks for the info Trev.
>>
>>
>
>