My bro in law just formatted the wrong drive during a win2k install (doh!).
Can the data be retrieved? If so, what ute can do that?

--
damien clan .
@ mcbain com

there's no place like 127.0.0.1

From:	Rod Speed
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:42:53 +1100

Damien McBain wrote in message
news:41eba677$0$16205$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...

> My bro in law just formatted the wrong drive during a win2k install (doh!).
> Can the data be retrieved?

Yes.

> If so, what ute can do that?

Easy Recovery Pro does a pretty decent job.

Commercial software tho, tho widely
available on sites like http://kickme.to/FOSI

From:	Matt
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:56:50 GMT

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:42:53 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

>
>Damien McBain wrote in message
>news:41eba677$0$16205$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
>> My bro in law just formatted the wrong drive during a win2k install (doh!).
>> Can the data be retrieved?
>
>Yes.
>
>> If so, what ute can do that?
>
>Easy Recovery Pro does a pretty decent job.
>
>Commercial software tho,

YOU SAID IT!!!! You know it's WRONG because your insides remind you.

> tho widely
>available on sites like http://kickme.to/FOSI
>

You damn theif. Why don't you pay for your software.
The warez group here is called:
alt.earth.devices.pc.software.sinners.heading.for.hell
Note the 'alt'. You have a choice.

Let the thread begin..............................

Oh and BTW, I know you are a smart and helpful man Rod, but
encouraging stealing isn't exactly a helpful thing is it?

From:	Clockmeister
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:45:14 +0800

"Matt" wrote in message
news:qlcou0lo1c63bd52kndfahj3j16872n9sp@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:42:53 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Damien McBain wrote in message
> >news:41eba677$0$16205$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >
> >> My bro in law just formatted the wrong drive during a win2k install
(doh!).
> >> Can the data be retrieved?
> >
> >Yes.
> >
> >> If so, what ute can do that?
> >
> >Easy Recovery Pro does a pretty decent job.
> >
> >Commercial software tho,
>
> YOU SAID IT!!!! You know it's WRONG because your insides remind you.
>
> > tho widely
> >available on sites like http://kickme.to/FOSI
> >
>
> You damn theif. Why don't you pay for your software.
> The warez group here is called:
> alt.earth.devices.pc.software.sinners.heading.for.hell
> Note the 'alt'. You have a choice.
>
> Let the thread begin..............................
>
> Oh and BTW, I know you are a smart and helpful man Rod, but
> encouraging stealing isn't exactly a helpful thing is it?

He's not very helpful when he gets it wrong.

From:	Rod Speed
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:17:36 +1100

Matt wrote in message
news:qlcou0lo1c63bd52kndfahj3j16872n9sp@4ax.com...
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Damien McBain wrote

>>> My bro in law just formatted the wrong drive during
>>> a win2k install (doh!). Can the data be retrieved?

>> Yes.

>>> If so, what ute can do that?

>> Easy Recovery Pro does a pretty decent job.

>> Commercial software tho,

> YOU SAID IT!!!!

Must be one of those rocket scientist fuckwit children!!!!!

> You know it's WRONG because your insides remind you.

Nothing WRONG with paying for commercial
software, you silly little fuckwit child.

>> tho widely available on sites like http://kickme.to/FOSI

> You damn theif. Why don't you pay for your software.

You dont know that I dont, you silly little fuckwit child.

> The warez group here is called:
> alt.earth.devices.pc.software.sinners.heading.for.hell
> Note the 'alt'. You have a choice.

And you dont have a choice, you get
to go and fuck yourself right now.

> Let the thread begin..............................

Let the desperate wanking being in your case.............................

> Oh and BTW, I know you are a smart and helpful man Rod,
> but encouraging stealing isn't exactly a helpful thing is it?

I wasnt encouraging stealing. I just pointed out
the options he has, you silly little fuckwit child.

From:	AJS
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:32:36 +1030

"Matt" wrote in message
news:qlcou0lo1c63bd52kndfahj3j16872n9sp@4ax.com...

> Oh and BTW, I know you are a smart and helpful man Rod,

RS is an idiot who has a tendency to offer poor/damaging advice. When
confronted with facts showing this RS resorts to lies and abuse while still
defending the idiotic advice he offers. While RS does sometimes offer
something of merit the same information could be gain from Google or many
other sources and be relied upon more than anything RS offers.

AJS

From:	Damien McBain
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:11:15 +1100

AJS wrote:
> "Matt" wrote in message
> news:qlcou0lo1c63bd52kndfahj3j16872n9sp@4ax.com...
>
>> Oh and BTW, I know you are a smart and helpful man Rod,
>
> RS is an idiot who has a tendency to offer poor/damaging advice. When
> confronted with facts showing this RS resorts to lies and abuse while
> still defending the idiotic advice he offers. While RS does sometimes
> offer something of merit the same information could be gain from
> Google or many other sources and be relied upon more than anything RS
> offers.

Hmmm, disagree, the advice is often helpful....

My only ever bitch with rod is the speed and voracity of the abuse - even
that is often entertaining.

Notwithstanding all that, he's the only bloke I've ever seen called a 'cunty
chops' in the heading of a post: That made me laugh out loud (LOL).

--
damien clan .
@ mcbain com

there's no place like 127.0.0.1

From:	AJS
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:56:15 +1030

"Damien McBain" wrote in message
news:41ecd37b$0$16207$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...

> Hmmm, disagree, the advice is often helpful....
>
> My only ever bitch with rod is the speed and voracity of the abuse - even
> that is often entertaining.

Having seen many occasion where he offers poor or idiotic information that
may well cause the loss of data Etc. and then abusively defend his "help"
when the facts are presented I think we would be better off if RS went away.
Anyone who offers advice to ppl has a responsibility to ensure that
information is accurate. RS makes a habit of spouting rubbish as fact. Which
is fine IF the person asking for help knows RS's habits and history. If they
don't and take what is said at face value then they may well find they lose
data of importance.

AJS

From:	Hunter1
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:04:19 +0800

AJS wrote:
> "Damien McBain" wrote in message
> news:41ecd37b$0$16207$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
>
>>Hmmm, disagree, the advice is often helpful....
>>
>>My only ever bitch with rod is the speed and voracity of the abuse - even
>>that is often entertaining.
>
> Having seen many occasion where he offers poor or idiotic information that
> may well cause the loss of data Etc.

For example?

From:	Damien McBain
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:44:49 +1100

AJS wrote:
> "Damien McBain" wrote in message
> news:41ecd37b$0$16207$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
>> Hmmm, disagree, the advice is often helpful....
>>
>> My only ever bitch with rod is the speed and voracity of the abuse -
>> even that is often entertaining.
>
> Having seen many occasion where he offers poor or idiotic information
> that may well cause the loss of data Etc.

can you post some examples / links?

and then abusively defend
> his "help" when the facts are presented I think we would be better
> off if RS went away. Anyone who offers advice to ppl has a
> responsibility to ensure that information is accurate. RS makes a
> habit of spouting rubbish as fact. Which is fine IF the person asking
> for help knows RS's habits and history. If they don't and take what
> is said at face value then they may well find they lose data of
> importance.

crap, this is not true, his bad side is about abuse not bad information IMO.

--
damien clan .
@ mcbain com

there's no place like 127.0.0.1

From:	Clockmeister
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:18:50 +0800

"Damien McBain" wrote in message
news:41ecf779$0$16236$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> AJS wrote:
> > "Damien McBain" wrote in message
> > news:41ecd37b$0$16207$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >
> >> Hmmm, disagree, the advice is often helpful....
> >>
> >> My only ever bitch with rod is the speed and voracity of the abuse -
> >> even that is often entertaining.
> >
> > Having seen many occasion where he offers poor or idiotic information
> > that may well cause the loss of data Etc.
>
> can you post some examples / links?
>
> and then abusively defend
> > his "help" when the facts are presented I think we would be better
> > off if RS went away. Anyone who offers advice to ppl has a
> > responsibility to ensure that information is accurate. RS makes a
> > habit of spouting rubbish as fact. Which is fine IF the person asking
> > for help knows RS's habits and history. If they don't and take what
> > is said at face value then they may well find they lose data of
> > importance.
>
> crap, this is not true, his bad side is about abuse not bad information
IMO.
>

He makes claims that completely fly in the face of common knowledge to those
who actually know something about the subject through personal experience
and then he defends his position with childish abuse.

ie reliability of SCSI over MFM/RLL.
Commodore computers reasons for failure and why the C64 sold so well.

He was completely and utterly wrong on those subjects, and I imagine on many
other subjects that he offers his baseless opinion on as fact.

From:	cd
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:44:53 GMT

Clockmeister wrote:
> "Damien McBain" wrote in message
> news:41ecf779$0$16236$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
>>AJS wrote:
>>
>>>"Damien McBain" wrote in message
>>>news:41ecd37b$0$16207$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hmmm, disagree, the advice is often helpful....
>>>>
>>>>My only ever bitch with rod is the speed and voracity of the abuse -
>>>>even that is often entertaining.
>>>
>>>Having seen many occasion where he offers poor or idiotic information
>>>that may well cause the loss of data Etc.
>>
>>can you post some examples / links?
>>
>> and then abusively defend
>>
>>>his "help" when the facts are presented I think we would be better
>>>off if RS went away. Anyone who offers advice to ppl has a
>>>responsibility to ensure that information is accurate. RS makes a
>>>habit of spouting rubbish as fact. Which is fine IF the person asking
>>>for help knows RS's habits and history. If they don't and take what
>>>is said at face value then they may well find they lose data of
>>>importance.
>>
>>crap, this is not true, his bad side is about abuse not bad information
>
> IMO.
>
>
> He makes claims that completely fly in the face of common knowledge to those
> who actually know something about the subject through personal experience
> and then he defends his position with childish abuse.
>
> ie reliability of SCSI over MFM/RLL.
> Commodore computers reasons for failure and why the C64 sold so well.
>
> He was completely and utterly wrong on those subjects, and I imagine on many
> other subjects that he offers his baseless opinion on as fact.
>
>
>

the dumb ass was wrong about laptop hardrive's in dell laptops too. (ie
regarding temprature readings)

From:	Rod Speed
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:19:42 +1100

"Clockmeister" wrote in message
news:41ed24e8@duster.adelaide.on.net...
>
> "Damien McBain" wrote in message
> news:41ecf779$0$16236$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> AJS wrote:
>> > "Damien McBain" wrote in message
>> > news:41ecd37b$0$16207$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> >
>> >> Hmmm, disagree, the advice is often helpful....
>> >>
>> >> My only ever bitch with rod is the speed and voracity of the abuse -
>> >> even that is often entertaining.
>> >
>> > Having seen many occasion where he offers poor or idiotic information
>> > that may well cause the loss of data Etc.
>>
>> can you post some examples / links?
>>
>> and then abusively defend
>> > his "help" when the facts are presented I think we would be better
>> > off if RS went away. Anyone who offers advice to ppl has a
>> > responsibility to ensure that information is accurate. RS makes a
>> > habit of spouting rubbish as fact. Which is fine IF the person asking
>> > for help knows RS's habits and history. If they don't and take what
>> > is said at face value then they may well find they lose data of
>> > importance.
>>
>> crap, this is not true, his bad side is about abuse not bad information
> IMO.
>>
>
> He makes claims that completely fly in the face of common knowledge to those
> who actually know something about the subject through personal experience
> and then he defends his position with childish abuse.
>
> ie reliability of SCSI over MFM/RLL.

You're lying again, child. I JUST commented on the reliability
OF THE SCSI DRIVES THE EARLY MACS USED, NOT SCSI
IN GENERAL. The SCSI drives used in the early macs were
physically the same as the MFM/RLL drives and had the same
reliability.

> Commodore computers reasons for failure and why the C64 sold so well.

You've never had a fucking clue about that stuff.

> He was completely and utterly wrong on those subjects, and I imagine on many
> other subjects that he offers his baseless opinion on as fact.

Corse those were YOUR opinions eh ?

Silly little lying fuckwit car crasher.

From:	Clockmeister
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:55:23 +0800

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
news:3559b1F4efnllU1@individual.net...
>
> "Clockmeister" wrote in message
> news:41ed24e8@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> >
> > "Damien McBain" wrote in message
> > news:41ecf779$0$16236$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >> AJS wrote:
> >> > "Damien McBain" wrote in message
> >> > news:41ecd37b$0$16207$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >> >
> >> >> Hmmm, disagree, the advice is often helpful....
> >> >>
> >> >> My only ever bitch with rod is the speed and voracity of the abuse -
> >> >> even that is often entertaining.
> >> >
> >> > Having seen many occasion where he offers poor or idiotic information
> >> > that may well cause the loss of data Etc.
> >>
> >> can you post some examples / links?
> >>
> >> and then abusively defend
> >> > his "help" when the facts are presented I think we would be better
> >> > off if RS went away. Anyone who offers advice to ppl has a
> >> > responsibility to ensure that information is accurate. RS makes a
> >> > habit of spouting rubbish as fact. Which is fine IF the person asking
> >> > for help knows RS's habits and history. If they don't and take what
> >> > is said at face value then they may well find they lose data of
> >> > importance.
> >>
> >> crap, this is not true, his bad side is about abuse not bad information
> > IMO.
> >>
> >
> > He makes claims that completely fly in the face of common knowledge to
those
> > who actually know something about the subject through personal
experience
> > and then he defends his position with childish abuse.
> >
> > ie reliability of SCSI over MFM/RLL.
>
> You're lying again, child. I JUST commented on the reliability
> OF THE SCSI DRIVES THE EARLY MACS USED, NOT SCSI
> IN GENERAL. The SCSI drives used in the early macs were
> physically the same as the MFM/RLL drives and had the same
> reliability.
>
> > Commodore computers reasons for failure and why the C64 sold so well.
>
> You've never had a fucking clue about that stuff.
>
> > He was completely and utterly wrong on those subjects, and I imagine on
many
> > other subjects that he offers his baseless opinion on as fact.
>
> Corse those were YOUR opinions eh ?
>
> Silly little lying fuckwit car crasher.
>

Hook, line and sinker...

From:	Rod Speed
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:06:07 +1100

"Clockmeister" wrote in message
news:41edba0e$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
>
> "Rod Speed" wrote in message
> news:3559b1F4efnllU1@individual.net...
>>
>> "Clockmeister" wrote in message
>> news:41ed24e8@duster.adelaide.on.net...
>> >
>> > "Damien McBain" wrote in message
>> > news:41ecf779$0$16236$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> >> AJS wrote:
>> >> > "Damien McBain" wrote in message
>> >> > news:41ecd37b$0$16207$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hmmm, disagree, the advice is often helpful....
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My only ever bitch with rod is the speed and voracity of the abuse -
>> >> >> even that is often entertaining.
>> >> >
>> >> > Having seen many occasion where he offers poor or idiotic information
>> >> > that may well cause the loss of data Etc.
>> >>
>> >> can you post some examples / links?
>> >>
>> >> and then abusively defend
>> >> > his "help" when the facts are presented I think we would be better
>> >> > off if RS went away. Anyone who offers advice to ppl has a
>> >> > responsibility to ensure that information is accurate. RS makes a
>> >> > habit of spouting rubbish as fact. Which is fine IF the person asking
>> >> > for help knows RS's habits and history. If they don't and take what
>> >> > is said at face value then they may well find they lose data of
>> >> > importance.
>> >>
>> >> crap, this is not true, his bad side is about abuse not bad information
>> > IMO.
>> >>
>> >
>> > He makes claims that completely fly in the face of common knowledge to
> those
>> > who actually know something about the subject through personal
> experience
>> > and then he defends his position with childish abuse.
>> >
>> > ie reliability of SCSI over MFM/RLL.
>>
>> You're lying again, child. I JUST commented on the reliability
>> OF THE SCSI DRIVES THE EARLY MACS USED, NOT SCSI
>> IN GENERAL. The SCSI drives used in the early macs were
>> physically the same as the MFM/RLL drives and had the same
>> reliability.
>>
>> > Commodore computers reasons for failure and why the C64 sold so well.
>>
>> You've never had a fucking clue about that stuff.
>>
>> > He was completely and utterly wrong on those subjects, and I imagine on
> many
>> > other subjects that he offers his baseless opinion on as fact.
>>
>> Corse those were YOUR opinions eh ?
>>
>> Silly little lying fuckwit car crasher.
>>
>
> Hook, line and sinker...

Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of the
exposure of your childish lying better than that pathetic
effort, you silly little lying fuckwit carcrasher.

From:	atec
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:11:24 +1000

Rod Speed wrote:
>

> >
> > Hook, line and sinker...
>
> Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of the
> exposure of your childish lying better than that pathetic
> effort, you silly little lying fuckwit carcrasher.
well well ruggles . taking time off from all that naughty wanking eh ?
Mistress Tracy says your a very bad and ill-informed little wanker and
should be punished for being an inveterate liar ....
and full of shiite 90% of the time ..

From:	Clockmeister
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:31:16 +0800

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
news:355tkhF4jr45pU1@individual.net...
>
> "Clockmeister" wrote in message
> news:41edba0e$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> >
> > "Rod Speed" wrote in message
> > news:3559b1F4efnllU1@individual.net...
> >>
> >> "Clockmeister" wrote in message
> >> news:41ed24e8@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> >> >
> >> > "Damien McBain" wrote in message
> >> > news:41ecf779$0$16236$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >> >> AJS wrote:
> >> >> > "Damien McBain" wrote in message
> >> >> >
news:41ecd37b$0$16207$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hmmm, disagree, the advice is often helpful....
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> My only ever bitch with rod is the speed and voracity of the
abuse -
> >> >> >> even that is often entertaining.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Having seen many occasion where he offers poor or idiotic
information
> >> >> > that may well cause the loss of data Etc.
> >> >>
> >> >> can you post some examples / links?
> >> >>
> >> >> and then abusively defend
> >> >> > his "help" when the facts are presented I think we would be better
> >> >> > off if RS went away. Anyone who offers advice to ppl has a
> >> >> > responsibility to ensure that information is accurate. RS makes a
> >> >> > habit of spouting rubbish as fact. Which is fine IF the person
asking
> >> >> > for help knows RS's habits and history. If they don't and take
what
> >> >> > is said at face value then they may well find they lose data of
> >> >> > importance.
> >> >>
> >> >> crap, this is not true, his bad side is about abuse not bad
information
> >> > IMO.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > He makes claims that completely fly in the face of common knowledge
to
> > those
> >> > who actually know something about the subject through personal
> > experience
> >> > and then he defends his position with childish abuse.
> >> >
> >> > ie reliability of SCSI over MFM/RLL.
> >>
> >> You're lying again, child. I JUST commented on the reliability
> >> OF THE SCSI DRIVES THE EARLY MACS USED, NOT SCSI
> >> IN GENERAL. The SCSI drives used in the early macs were
> >> physically the same as the MFM/RLL drives and had the same
> >> reliability.
> >>
> >> > Commodore computers reasons for failure and why the C64 sold so well.
> >>
> >> You've never had a fucking clue about that stuff.
> >>
> >> > He was completely and utterly wrong on those subjects, and I imagine
on
> > many
> >> > other subjects that he offers his baseless opinion on as fact.
> >>
> >> Corse those were YOUR opinions eh ?
> >>
> >> Silly little lying fuckwit car crasher.
> >>
> >
> > Hook, line and sinker...
>
> Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of the
> exposure of your childish lying better than that pathetic
> effort, you silly little lying fuckwit carcrasher.
>

I'm still right and you are still very wrong on all those subjects,
including the car-crashing one where I was deemed not responsible.

Blow it out your arse Rod, you demented, irrelevant, obsolete and
compulsively lying old scrote. You are being shown up for the fool you
really are on a regular basis by people who know what they are talking about
and you can't deal with that fact.

From:	Rod Speed
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:45:45 +1100

Some pathetic little gutless fuckwit car
crasher liar desperately cowering behind
Clockmeister
desperately attempted to bullshit its way out of its predicament
in message news:41ee08c9$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.

From:	Jack Stein
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:30:34 -0500

Rod Speed wrote:

> Some pathetic little gutless fuckwit car
> crasher liar desperately cowering behind
> Clockmeister
> desperately attempted to bullshit its way out of its predicament
> in message news:41ee08c9$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.

You wouldn't be the Rod Speed of Dr. Debug fame from the days of FidoNet?

--
Jack
http://jbstein.com

From:	Nick Andrew
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	24 Jan 2005 15:10:13 +1100

Jack Stein writes:

>You wouldn't be the Rod Speed of Dr. Debug fame from the days of FidoNet?

Yes, that's him. Tell more.

Nick.
--
http://www.nick-andrew.net/ http://aus.news-admin.org/
I prefer USENET replies. Don't send email copies. Drop the spamtrap to reply.

From:	Clockmeister
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:30:50 +0800

"Nick Andrew" wrote in message
news:ct1sf5$ise$1@godzilla.zeta.org.au...
> Jack Stein writes:
>
> >You wouldn't be the Rod Speed of Dr. Debug fame from the days of FidoNet?
>
> Yes, that's him. Tell more.
>

Yes, let's have some dirt on the miserable old fuckstain.

From:	Damien McBain
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:57:03 +1100

Rod Speed wrote:
> "Clockmeister" wrote in message
> news:41edba0e$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
>>
>> "Rod Speed" wrote in message
>> news:3559b1F4efnllU1@individual.net...
>>>
>>> "Clockmeister" wrote in message
>>> news:41ed24e8@duster.adelaide.on.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Damien McBain" wrote in message
>>>> news:41ecf779$0$16236$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>> AJS wrote:
>>>>>> "Damien McBain" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:41ecd37b$0$16207$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmm, disagree, the advice is often helpful....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My only ever bitch with rod is the speed and voracity of the
>>>>>>> abuse - even that is often entertaining.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having seen many occasion where he offers poor or idiotic
>>>>>> information that may well cause the loss of data Etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> can you post some examples / links?
>>>>>
>>>>> and then abusively defend
>>>>>> his "help" when the facts are presented I think we would be
>>>>>> better off if RS went away. Anyone who offers advice to ppl has a
>>>>>> responsibility to ensure that information is accurate. RS makes a
>>>>>> habit of spouting rubbish as fact. Which is fine IF the person
>>>>>> asking for help knows RS's habits and history. If they don't and
>>>>>> take what is said at face value then they may well find they
>>>>>> lose data of importance.
>>>>>
>>>>> crap, this is not true, his bad side is about abuse not bad
>>>>> information IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He makes claims that completely fly in the face of common
>>>> knowledge to those who actually know something about the subject
>>>> through personal experience and then he defends his position with
>>>> childish abuse.
>>>>
>>>> ie reliability of SCSI over MFM/RLL.
>>>
>>> You're lying again, child. I JUST commented on the reliability
>>> OF THE SCSI DRIVES THE EARLY MACS USED, NOT SCSI
>>> IN GENERAL. The SCSI drives used in the early macs were
>>> physically the same as the MFM/RLL drives and had the same
>>> reliability.
>>>
>>>> Commodore computers reasons for failure and why the C64 sold so
>>>> well.
>>>
>>> You've never had a fucking clue about that stuff.
>>>
>>>> He was completely and utterly wrong on those subjects, and I
>>>> imagine on many other subjects that he offers his baseless opinion
>>>> on as fact.
>>>
>>> Corse those were YOUR opinions eh ?
>>>
>>> Silly little lying fuckwit car crasher.
>>>
>>
>> Hook, line and sinker...
>
> Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of the
> exposure of your childish lying better than that pathetic
> effort, you silly little lying fuckwit carcrasher.

Why is 'carcrasher' reserved for Clockmeister?

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@ mcbain com

there's no place like 127.0.0.1

From:	Rod Speed
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:03:28 +1100

"Damien McBain" wrote in message
news:41ee2fb9$0$31092$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> "Clockmeister" wrote in message
>> news:41edba0e$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
>>>
>>> "Rod Speed" wrote in message
>>> news:3559b1F4efnllU1@individual.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Clockmeister" wrote in message
>>>> news:41ed24e8@duster.adelaide.on.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Damien McBain" wrote in message
>>>>> news:41ecf779$0$16236$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>> AJS wrote:
>>>>>>> "Damien McBain" wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:41ecd37b$0$16207$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hmmm, disagree, the advice is often helpful....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My only ever bitch with rod is the speed and voracity of the
>>>>>>>> abuse - even that is often entertaining.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having seen many occasion where he offers poor or idiotic
>>>>>>> information that may well cause the loss of data Etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> can you post some examples / links?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and then abusively defend
>>>>>>> his "help" when the facts are presented I think we would be
>>>>>>> better off if RS went away. Anyone who offers advice to ppl has a
>>>>>>> responsibility to ensure that information is accurate. RS makes a
>>>>>>> habit of spouting rubbish as fact. Which is fine IF the person
>>>>>>> asking for help knows RS's habits and history. If they don't and
>>>>>>> take what is said at face value then they may well find they
>>>>>>> lose data of importance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> crap, this is not true, his bad side is about abuse not bad
>>>>>> information IMO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> He makes claims that completely fly in the face of common
>>>>> knowledge to those who actually know something about the subject
>>>>> through personal experience and then he defends his position with
>>>>> childish abuse.
>>>>>
>>>>> ie reliability of SCSI over MFM/RLL.
>>>>
>>>> You're lying again, child. I JUST commented on the reliability
>>>> OF THE SCSI DRIVES THE EARLY MACS USED, NOT SCSI
>>>> IN GENERAL. The SCSI drives used in the early macs were
>>>> physically the same as the MFM/RLL drives and had the same
>>>> reliability.
>>>>
>>>>> Commodore computers reasons for failure and why the C64 sold so
>>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> You've never had a fucking clue about that stuff.
>>>>
>>>>> He was completely and utterly wrong on those subjects, and I
>>>>> imagine on many other subjects that he offers his baseless opinion
>>>>> on as fact.
>>>>
>>>> Corse those were YOUR opinions eh ?
>>>>
>>>> Silly little lying fuckwit car crasher.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hook, line and sinker...
>>
>> Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of the
>> exposure of your childish lying better than that pathetic
>> effort, you silly little lying fuckwit carcrasher.
>
> Why is 'carcrasher' reserved for Clockmeister?

Coz he crashes cars ? Tad of a novel concept, I know.

From:	Clockmeister
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:13:11 +0800

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
news:357soiF4jghgcU1@individual.net...
>
> "Damien McBain" wrote in message
> news:41ee2fb9$0$31092$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> > Rod Speed wrote:
> >> "Clockmeister" wrote in message
> >> news:41edba0e$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> >>>
> >>> "Rod Speed" wrote in message
> >>> news:3559b1F4efnllU1@individual.net...
> >>>>
> >>>> "Clockmeister" wrote in message
> >>>> news:41ed24e8@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Damien McBain" wrote in message
> >>>>> news:41ecf779$0$16236$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >>>>>> AJS wrote:
> >>>>>>> "Damien McBain" wrote in message
> >>>>>>>
news:41ecd37b$0$16207$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hmmm, disagree, the advice is often helpful....
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> My only ever bitch with rod is the speed and voracity of the
> >>>>>>>> abuse - even that is often entertaining.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Having seen many occasion where he offers poor or idiotic
> >>>>>>> information that may well cause the loss of data Etc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> can you post some examples / links?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and then abusively defend
> >>>>>>> his "help" when the facts are presented I think we would be
> >>>>>>> better off if RS went away. Anyone who offers advice to ppl has a
> >>>>>>> responsibility to ensure that information is accurate. RS makes a
> >>>>>>> habit of spouting rubbish as fact. Which is fine IF the person
> >>>>>>> asking for help knows RS's habits and history. If they don't and
> >>>>>>> take what is said at face value then they may well find they
> >>>>>>> lose data of importance.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> crap, this is not true, his bad side is about abuse not bad
> >>>>>> information IMO.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> He makes claims that completely fly in the face of common
> >>>>> knowledge to those who actually know something about the subject
> >>>>> through personal experience and then he defends his position with
> >>>>> childish abuse.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ie reliability of SCSI over MFM/RLL.
> >>>>
> >>>> You're lying again, child. I JUST commented on the reliability
> >>>> OF THE SCSI DRIVES THE EARLY MACS USED, NOT SCSI
> >>>> IN GENERAL. The SCSI drives used in the early macs were
> >>>> physically the same as the MFM/RLL drives and had the same
> >>>> reliability.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Commodore computers reasons for failure and why the C64 sold so
> >>>>> well.
> >>>>
> >>>> You've never had a fucking clue about that stuff.
> >>>>
> >>>>> He was completely and utterly wrong on those subjects, and I
> >>>>> imagine on many other subjects that he offers his baseless opinion
> >>>>> on as fact.
> >>>>
> >>>> Corse those were YOUR opinions eh ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Silly little lying fuckwit car crasher.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Hook, line and sinker...
> >>
> >> Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of the
> >> exposure of your childish lying better than that pathetic
> >> effort, you silly little lying fuckwit carcrasher.
> >
> > Why is 'carcrasher' reserved for Clockmeister?
>
> Coz he crashes cars ? Tad of a novel concept, I know.
>

Rod is sour because the only thing he can drive is his wheelchair.

From:	Damien McBain
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:41:46 +1100

Clockmeister wrote:
> "Rod Speed" wrote in message
> news:357soiF4jghgcU1@individual.net...
>>
>> "Damien McBain" wrote in message
>> news:41ee2fb9$0$31092$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> "Clockmeister" wrote in message
>>>> news:41edba0e$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rod Speed" wrote in message
>>>>> news:3559b1F4efnllU1@individual.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Clockmeister" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:41ed24e8@duster.adelaide.on.net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Damien McBain" wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:41ecf779$0$16236$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>> AJS wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Damien McBain" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>
> news:41ecd37b$0$16207$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm, disagree, the advice is often helpful....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My only ever bitch with rod is the speed and voracity of the
>>>>>>>>>> abuse - even that is often entertaining.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Having seen many occasion where he offers poor or idiotic
>>>>>>>>> information that may well cause the loss of data Etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> can you post some examples / links?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and then abusively defend
>>>>>>>>> his "help" when the facts are presented I think we would be
>>>>>>>>> better off if RS went away. Anyone who offers advice to ppl
>>>>>>>>> has a responsibility to ensure that information is accurate.
>>>>>>>>> RS makes a habit of spouting rubbish as fact. Which is fine
>>>>>>>>> IF the person asking for help knows RS's habits and history.
>>>>>>>>> If they don't and take what is said at face value then they
>>>>>>>>> may well find they lose data of importance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> crap, this is not true, his bad side is about abuse not bad
>>>>>>>> information IMO.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He makes claims that completely fly in the face of common
>>>>>>> knowledge to those who actually know something about the subject
>>>>>>> through personal experience and then he defends his position
>>>>>>> with childish abuse.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ie reliability of SCSI over MFM/RLL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're lying again, child. I JUST commented on the reliability
>>>>>> OF THE SCSI DRIVES THE EARLY MACS USED, NOT SCSI
>>>>>> IN GENERAL. The SCSI drives used in the early macs were
>>>>>> physically the same as the MFM/RLL drives and had the same
>>>>>> reliability.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Commodore computers reasons for failure and why the C64 sold so
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You've never had a fucking clue about that stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He was completely and utterly wrong on those subjects, and I
>>>>>>> imagine on many other subjects that he offers his baseless
>>>>>>> opinion on as fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Corse those were YOUR opinions eh ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Silly little lying fuckwit car crasher.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hook, line and sinker...
>>>>
>>>> Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of the
>>>> exposure of your childish lying better than that pathetic
>>>> effort, you silly little lying fuckwit carcrasher.
>>>
>>> Why is 'carcrasher' reserved for Clockmeister?
>>
>> Coz he crashes cars ? Tad of a novel concept, I know.
>
> Rod is sour because the only thing he can drive is his wheelchair.

You two know each other?

--
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@ mcbain com

there's no place like 127.0.0.1

From:	atec
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:59:15 +1000

Damien McBain wrote:
>
>
> > importance.
>
> crap, this is not true, his bad side is about abuse not bad information IMO.
>
> --
> damien clan .
> @ mcbain com
>
> there's no place like 127.0.0.1
he has and continues to offer bad information , when he knows nothing
and gleans information from the net how reliable do you think ruddles is
?
( hint , bloody awful)

From:	Rod Speed
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:33:14 +1100

"Damien McBain" wrote in message
news:41ecd37b$0$16207$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> AJS wrote:
>> "Matt" wrote in message
>> news:qlcou0lo1c63bd52kndfahj3j16872n9sp@4ax.com...
>>
>>> Oh and BTW, I know you are a smart and helpful man Rod,
>>
>> RS is an idiot who has a tendency to offer poor/damaging advice. When
>> confronted with facts showing this RS resorts to lies and abuse while
>> still defending the idiotic advice he offers. While RS does sometimes
>> offer something of merit the same information could be gain from
>> Google or many other sources and be relied upon more than anything RS
>> offers.
>
> Hmmm, disagree, the advice is often helpful....
>
> My only ever bitch with rod is the speed and voracity of the abuse - even
> that is often entertaining.
>
> Notwithstanding all that, he's the only bloke I've ever seen called a 'cunty
> chops' in the heading of a post: That made me laugh out loud (LOL).

I do tend to bring out the worst in some |-)

From:	Krusty
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:00:12 +1100

>So what does the format actually do to the drive? I was under the
>impression
>that it totaly 'reset' all the magnetic 'switches'.

Basically it does very little it just deletes the first letter of each file
name & marks the sectors which were used as free in the file allocation
tables (FATs). Hence if you write more data to a partition you plan to
unformat you are destroying your data & any chances of recovery! At least
that's my understanding of how it works (DOS did it that way)!

From:	Oldus Fartus
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:48:53 +0800

"Krusty" wrote in message news:41ec5f9d$1@news1...
> >So what does the format actually do to the drive? I was under the
> >impression
> >that it totaly 'reset' all the magnetic 'switches'.
>
> Basically it does very little it just deletes the first letter of each
file
> name & marks the sectors which were used as free in the file allocation
> tables (FATs). Hence if you write more data to a partition you plan to
> unformat you are destroying your data & any chances of recovery! At least
> that's my understanding of how it works (DOS did it that way)!
>
>
That is the way DELETE works, but with FORMAT a new root directory and FAT
are created, overwriting the old, but leaving the data intact.

The old FORMAT utility saved a copy of the FAT and root directory so it was
possible in many cases to use UNFORMAT to restore the disc.

--
Cheers
Oldus Fartus

From:	DalienX
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:08:50 GMT

Damien McBain wrote:

> My bro in law just formatted the wrong drive during a win2k install
> (doh!). Can the data be retrieved? If so, what ute can do that?

Bad luck, hes screwed pretty much.
You can pay for professional data retrieval but it costs more than the
entire computer would be worth....

When ever i need to format a harddrive, i make sure its the only drive
in there, ill unplug any others just to be safe.

--
DalienX

From:	atec
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:33:24 +1000

google for data retrieval . a couple of good free programs... just takes
time and you will lose the 3% you really wanted but its easy enough

Damien McBain wrote:
>
> My bro in law just formatted the wrong drive during a win2k install (doh!).
> Can the data be retrieved? If so, what ute can do that?
>
> --
> damien clan .
> @ mcbain com
>
> there's no place like 127.0.0.1

From:	Damien McBain
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:45:11 +1100

atec" <"atec77(remove) wrote:
> google for data retrieval . a couple of good free programs... just
> takes time and you will lose the 3% you really wanted but its easy
> enough

Thanks, we found a ute as you suggested which appears to be finding files.

So what does the format actually do to the drive? I was under the impression
that it totaly 'reset' all the magnetic 'switches'.

>
> Damien McBain wrote:
>>
>> My bro in law just formatted the wrong drive during a win2k install
>> (doh!). Can the data be retrieved? If so, what ute can do that?
>>
>> --
>> damien clan .
>> @ mcbain com
>>
>> there's no place like 127.0.0.1

--
damien clan .
@ mcbain com

there's no place like 127.0.0.1

From:	Rod Speed
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:45:55 +1100

"Damien McBain" wrote in message
news:41ebd03e$0$16189$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> atec" <"atec77(remove) wrote:
>> google for data retrieval . a couple of good free programs... just
>> takes time and you will lose the 3% you really wanted but its easy
>> enough
>
> Thanks, we found a ute as you suggested which appears to be finding files.

> So what does the format actually do to the drive?

Basically just redoes the directorys.

> I was under the impression that it totaly 'reset' all the magnetic 'switches'.

Nope. Thats a low level format which does write zeros
thru all the sectors on the drive with modern drives.

>> Damien McBain wrote:
>>>
>>> My bro in law just formatted the wrong drive during a win2k install
>>> (doh!). Can the data be retrieved? If so, what ute can do that?
>>>
>>> --
>>> damien clan .
>>> @ mcbain com
>>>
>>> there's no place like 127.0.0.1
>
>
>
> --
> damien clan .
> @ mcbain com
>
> there's no place like 127.0.0.1
>
>

From:	Damien McBain
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:12:52 +1100

Rod Speed wrote:
> "Damien McBain" wrote in message
> news:41ebd03e$0$16189$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> atec" <"atec77(remove) wrote:
>>> google for data retrieval . a couple of good free programs... just
>>> takes time and you will lose the 3% you really wanted but its easy
>>> enough
>>
>> Thanks, we found a ute as you suggested which appears to be finding
>> files.
>
>> So what does the format actually do to the drive?
>
> Basically just redoes the directorys.
>
>> I was under the impression that it totaly 'reset' all the magnetic
>> 'switches'.
>
> Nope. Thats a low level format which does write zeros
> thru all the sectors on the drive with modern drives.
>

He got back all the important stuff. I suspect he won't make the same
mistake again.

From:	eltan
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:11:58 +1100

how, & with what software?

"Damien McBain" wrote in message
news:41ecd3db$0$16187$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Rod Speed wrote:
> > "Damien McBain" wrote in message
> > news:41ebd03e$0$16189$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >> atec" <"atec77(remove) wrote:
> >>> google for data retrieval . a couple of good free programs... just
> >>> takes time and you will lose the 3% you really wanted but its easy
> >>> enough
> >>
> >> Thanks, we found a ute as you suggested which appears to be finding
> >> files.
> >
> >> So what does the format actually do to the drive?
> >
> > Basically just redoes the directorys.
> >
> >> I was under the impression that it totaly 'reset' all the magnetic
> >> 'switches'.
> >
> > Nope. Thats a low level format which does write zeros
> > thru all the sectors on the drive with modern drives.
> >
>
> He got back all the important stuff. I suspect he won't make the same
> mistake again.
>
>

From:	Damien McBain
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:37:08 +1100

eltan wrote:
> how, & with what software?

Proggy called GetDataBack http://www.runtime.org/gdb.htm

Becuase he had already (accidentally) reinstalled another OS on the drive,
he screwed the first 600MB of the (40GB) formatted drive.
Total data recovery was about 50%, he was just lucky that his important
stuff was in that 50% and not the other!

> "Damien McBain" wrote in message
> news:41ecd3db$0$16187$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>> "Damien McBain" wrote in message
>>> news:41ebd03e$0$16189$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>> atec" <"atec77(remove) wrote:
>>>>> google for data retrieval . a couple of good free programs... just
>>>>> takes time and you will lose the 3% you really wanted but its easy
>>>>> enough
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, we found a ute as you suggested which appears to be finding
>>>> files.
>>>
>>>> So what does the format actually do to the drive?
>>>
>>> Basically just redoes the directorys.
>>>
>>>> I was under the impression that it totaly 'reset' all the magnetic
>>>> 'switches'.
>>>
>>> Nope. Thats a low level format which does write zeros
>>> thru all the sectors on the drive with modern drives.
>>>
>>
>> He got back all the important stuff. I suspect he won't make the same
>> mistake again.

--
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@ mcbain com

there's no place like 127.0.0.1

From:	John Phillips
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:26:34 +1100

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, at 21:56:50 [GMT GMT] (08:56:50 Tuesday, 18 January
2005 where I live) "Matt" wrote:

> You damn theif. Why don't you pay for your software.

Wrong church. Go preach your crap elsewhere.

--
Please God! Not ANOTHER learning experience!

From:	Brissie
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:31:20 +1000

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:46:56 +1100, "Damien McBain"
wrote:

>My bro in law just formatted the wrong drive during a win2k install (doh!).
>Can the data be retrieved? If so, what ute can do that?

Yes

You can use cheapish ($10-$80) programs that can do it to a varying
degree of success (could be 100% data retrived). Or pay $250+ to pay
for a professional to do it, which will have a higher success rate
(not necessarily 100% data retrieved though)

From:	Matt
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:44:50 GMT

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:31:20 +1000, Brissie
wrote:

> Or pay $250+ to pay
>for a professional to do it,

Eh, try more like about $3000.
I had a co worker who screwed this drive and that's about how much it
cost to do it. If we hadn't, the client would have been screaming at
us.

Where did you get $250+ from?

From:	Brissie
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:24:17 +1000

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:44:50 GMT, Matt wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:31:20 +1000, Brissie
>wrote:
>
>> Or pay $250+ to pay
>>for a professional to do it,
>
>Eh, try more like about $3000.

That's why I said $250+. You can get recovery people for $250, but
they aren't as good as the $3000 guys

From:	Brissie
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:19:15 +1000

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:24:17 +1000, Brissie
wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:44:50 GMT, Matt wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:31:20 +1000, Brissie
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Or pay $250+ to pay
>>>for a professional to do it,
>>
>>Eh, try more like about $3000.
>
>That's why I said $250+. You can get recovery people for $250, but
>they aren't as good as the $3000 guys

You need the $2000+ guys if you fuck your drive like drop it in water,
destroy it with a hammer, paint over the tracks, etc. But if all
you're after is recovering a formatted drive, the cheap ones are fine.
Of course the expensive guys charge a fortune even for easy jobs like
that.

From:	hedgehog
Subject:	Re: Unformat a drive?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:45:21 +0800

"Brissie" wrote in message
news:dgapu09hjq5c2i4sk7am3ordqmt4tb9gbe@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:24:17 +1000, Brissie
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:44:50 GMT, Matt wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:31:20 +1000, Brissie
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or pay $250+ to pay
>>>>for a professional to do it,
>>>
>>>Eh, try more like about $3000.
>>
>>That's why I said $250+. You can get recovery people for $250, but
>>they aren't as good as the $3000 guys
>
> You need the $2000+ guys if you fuck your drive like drop it in water,
> destroy it with a hammer, paint over the tracks, etc. But if all
> you're after is recovering a formatted drive, the cheap ones are fine.
> Of course the expensive guys charge a fortune even for easy jobs like
> that.

I formatted my drive then reinstalled XP Office Publisher Photoshop and some
other progs and still recovered the files I needed using this
http://www.ontrack.com/easyrecoveryprofessional