I have been trying to find whether 900MHz digital spread spectum cordless
phones are legal to use here. DCITA web site ain't much use being rather
light on technical details.

Anybody know?

Keith

From:	googlegroups at sensation.net.au
Subject:	Re: Use of 900MHz phones
Date:	11 Jan 2005 15:45:57 -0800

When I did work experience at DoTaC (as it was known years ago) they
had bins full of circuit boards from confiscated cordless phones. They
basically ripped them out of the case, rendering the unit useless. I'm
not sure why they kept the circuit boards, but I was allowed to take a
few home for parts. :)

From:	thegoons
Subject:	Re: Use of 900MHz phones
Date:	Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:45:45 +1100

Customs used to be really strict on cordless phones at one time (big posters
up at airports etc) - are they lax about it now, or have the legislative
provisions changed?

wrote in message
news:1105487157.576108.192090@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> When I did work experience at DoTaC (as it was known years ago) they
> had bins full of circuit boards from confiscated cordless phones. They
> basically ripped them out of the case, rendering the unit useless. I'm
> not sure why they kept the circuit boards, but I was allowed to take a
> few home for parts. :)
>

From:	Fred Ferd
Subject:	Re: Use of 900MHz phones
Date:	Sun, 09 Jan 2005 05:34:11 GMT

"keithr" wrote in message
news:EZ1Ed.111284$K7.102510@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>I have been trying to find whether 900MHz digital spread spectum cordless
> phones are legal to use here. DCITA web site ain't much use being rather
> light on technical details.

http://internet.aca.gov.au/ACAINTER.1900916:STANDARD:1715921421:pp=DIR1_49,pc=PC_296

Looks like you are out of luck if they dont fit in the 861-865 area.
You need an australian model, so you buy it in australia

Communications Legislation Contact: Radiocommunications Licensing Policy

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Radiocommunications (861-865 MHz Land Stations and Handsets) Class
Licence 1996
The Radiocommunications (861-865 MHz Land Stations and Handsets) Class
Licence 1996 authorises cordless telephone handsets and land stations
employing the technology known as CT2.

This class licence was Gazetted on 24 July 1996. It was varied by the
Australian Communications Authority on 20 September 2001 and published in
the Commonwealth of Australia Gazette on 26 September 2001.

The Radiocommunications (861-865 MHz Land Stations and Handsets) Class
Licence 1996 can be downloaded in the Rich Text Format.

There is also a policy information paper entitled Land Stations and
Handsets - 861-865 MHz.

From:	keithr
Subject:	Re: Use of 900MHz phones
Date:	Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:03:54 GMT

Fred Ferd wrote:

>
> Looks like you are out of luck if they dont fit in the 861-865 area.
> You need an australian model, so you buy it in australia
>

Looks like it is OK.

Try buying an Australian model when you are living in the US of A. And since
returning, I have no desire to spend over $100 to get what I already have,

Keith

From:	Fred Ferd
Subject:	Re: Use of 900MHz phones
Date:	Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:10:30 GMT

"keithr" wrote in message
news:eVoEd.112729$K7.106568@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Fred Ferd wrote:
>
>>
>> Looks like you are out of luck if they dont fit in the 861-865 area.
>> You need an australian model, so you buy it in australia
>>
>
> Looks like it is OK.

You misunderstand.

The 900 MHz ISM range in the USA is different to the 900 MHz range in
Australia

> Try buying an Australian model when you are living in the US of A. And
> since
> returning, I have no desire to spend over $100 to get what I already have,

Hopefully your 900mhz cordless phone is confiscated when you go through the
airport.

>
>
> Keith
>

From:	Martin
Subject:	Re: Use of 900MHz phones
Date:	Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:44:55 +1100

"Fred Ferd" wrote in message
news:41e25495@news.comindico.com.au...
>
> "keithr" wrote in message
> news:eVoEd.112729$K7.106568@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Fred Ferd wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Looks like you are out of luck if they dont fit in the 861-865 area.
>>> You need an australian model, so you buy it in australia
>>>
>>
>> Looks like it is OK.
>
>
> You misunderstand.
>
> The 900 MHz ISM range in the USA is different to the 900 MHz range in
> Australia
>

So in other words, to answer your original question, if the 900MHz phone you
are referring to was purchased in the USA then no, your phone probably isn't
legal to use in Australia.

>
>
>> Try buying an Australian model when you are living in the US of A. And
>> since
>> returning, I have no desire to spend over $100 to get what I already
>> have,
>
> Hopefully your 900mhz cordless phone is confiscated when you go through
> the airport.

Or if you've already got it here, you'll interfere with something else on
the 900MHz band and the ACA (who enforce these things, not DCITA) will slap
you with a nice fine for your troubles......

If you want to know for sure, try contacting ACA www.aca.gov.au instead of
DCITA - maybe even ask them!

From:	thegoons
Subject:	Re: Use of 900MHz phones
Date:	Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:35:20 +1100

"keithr" wrote in message
news:eVoEd.112729$K7.106568@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Fred Ferd wrote:
>
>>
>> Looks like you are out of luck if they dont fit in the 861-865 area.
>> You need an australian model, so you buy it in australia
>>
>
> Looks like it is OK.
>
> Try buying an Australian model when you are living in the US of A. And
> since
> returning, I have no desire to spend over $100 to get what I already have,

That's fine if you don't mind ignoring the Radiocommunications Act

From:	Martin
Subject:	Re: Use of 900MHz phones
Date:	Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:49:10 +1100

"thegoons" wrote in message
news:34hdtqF43ugmnU1@individual.net...
>
> "keithr" wrote in message
> news:eVoEd.112729$K7.106568@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Fred Ferd wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Looks like you are out of luck if they dont fit in the 861-865 area.
>>> You need an australian model, so you buy it in australia
>>>
>>
>> Looks like it is OK.
>>
>> Try buying an Australian model when you are living in the US of A. And
>> since
>> returning, I have no desire to spend over $100 to get what I already
>> have,
>
> That's fine if you don't mind ignoring the Radiocommunications Act

And Telecommunications Act as well?? Overseas phones wouldn't be approved
for connection to the Australian network, would they?

They certainly wouldn't be approved under the Radiocommunications Act, so
you're right there!! What is it - 2 years max??

>
>

From:	kubalister
Subject:	Re: Use of 900MHz phones
Date:	Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:07:06 +1100

The 861-865 MHz band is used principally for land mobile use, i.e. high
power (<100W) narrow mode voice and telemetry single frequency
allocations to specific clients in each geographic area.
You're not allowed to use low powered spread spectrum devices in this
allocation. ISM bands are to be used for this purpose.

Spread spectrum cordless phones can be used here under the spread
spectrum class licence as specified here:
http://internet.aca.gov.au/acainterwr/aca_home/legislation/radcomm/acts/radcom/spread_2002.pdf

Page 4 of the document details the restrictions for use in the 900MHz band.

Fred Ferd wrote:
> "keithr" wrote in message
> news:EZ1Ed.111284$K7.102510@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>>I have been trying to find whether 900MHz digital spread spectum cordless
>>phones are legal to use here. DCITA web site ain't much use being rather
>>light on technical details.
>
>
> http://internet.aca.gov.au/ACAINTER.1900916:STANDARD:1715921421:pp=DIR1_49,pc=PC_296
>
>
> Looks like you are out of luck if they dont fit in the 861-865 area.
> You need an australian model, so you buy it in australia
>
>
> Communications Legislation Contact: Radiocommunications Licensing Policy
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Radiocommunications (861-865 MHz Land Stations and Handsets) Class
> Licence 1996
> The Radiocommunications (861-865 MHz Land Stations and Handsets) Class
> Licence 1996 authorises cordless telephone handsets and land stations
> employing the technology known as CT2.
>
> This class licence was Gazetted on 24 July 1996. It was varied by the
> Australian Communications Authority on 20 September 2001 and published in
> the Commonwealth of Australia Gazette on 26 September 2001.
>
> The Radiocommunications (861-865 MHz Land Stations and Handsets) Class
> Licence 1996 can be downloaded in the Rich Text Format.
>
> There is also a policy information paper entitled Land Stations and
> Handsets - 861-865 MHz.
>
>
>

From:	kubalister
Subject:	Re: Use of 900MHz phones
Date:	Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:48:47 +1100

Yes, 900MHz devices that have been approved by the ACA (with the C-tick
label) can be used here in the 900MHz ISM band (915-928MHz).
Most spread spectrum devices these days use the 2.4GHz band as that ISM
band has much greater bandwidth and subsequently a reduced level of
congestion.
Prior to cheaper components being available for the 2.4GHz band many
short range communications devices were available for the 900MHz band
including cordless phones and wireless headphones etc.

keithr wrote:
> I have been trying to find whether 900MHz digital spread spectum cordless
> phones are legal to use here. DCITA web site ain't much use being rather
> light on technical details.
>
> Anybody know?
>
> Keith

From:	keithr
Subject:	Re: Use of 900MHz phones
Date:	Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:34:26 GMT

kubalister wrote:

> Yes, 900MHz devices that have been approved by the ACA (with the C-tick
> label) can be used here in the 900MHz ISM band (915-928MHz).
> Most spread spectrum devices these days use the 2.4GHz band as that ISM
> band has much greater bandwidth and subsequently a reduced level of
> congestion.
> Prior to cheaper components being available for the 2.4GHz band many
> short range communications devices were available for the 900MHz band
> including cordless phones and wireless headphones etc.
>
> keithr wrote:
>> I have been trying to find whether 900MHz digital spread spectum cordless
>> phones are legal to use here. DCITA web site ain't much use being rather
>> light on technical details.
>>
>> Anybody know?
>>
>> Keith

Thanks, I thought that they were, but I wanted to be sure.

Keith

From:	Fred Ferd
Subject:	Re: Use of 900MHz phones
Date:	Sun, 09 Jan 2005 05:50:02 GMT