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 | | From: | EyesBlack | | Subject: | Re: Bouncing websites | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:58:37 -0500 |
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no one know about this?
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| | From: | Vanguard | | Subject: | Re: Bouncing websites | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:09:02 -0600 |
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| "EyesBlack" wrote in
message news:EyesBlack.1jbsp1@no-mx.forums.iamnotageek.com...
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> no one know about this?
What's with the *fake* reply post (by using "Re:" in your *originating*
post)? The References header is missing in your "reply" to point back
to a parent post. "If the message is submitted in response to another
message (e.g., is a follow-up) the default subject should begin with the
four characters "Re:", and the "References" line is required" (RFC 1036,
2.1.4 Subject).
A couple of suggestions:
- Turn off your vibrating seat cushion.
- Stop chewing crunchy food while trying to read the screen.
- Get used to the laptop bouncing around in the car.
- Let the kid go to the bathroom on which you perched your notebook.
Since you did not clarify what you meant by "bouncing web sites" then
any guess is correct.
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| | From: | G. Morgan | | Subject: | Re: Bouncing websites | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:43:07 -0600 |
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| Subject: Re: Bouncing websites
Newsgroup: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
=> Vanguard <= wrote:
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>What's with the *fake* reply post (by using "Re:" in your *originating*
>post)? The References header is missing in your "reply" to point back
>to a parent post. "If the message is submitted in response to another
>message (e.g., is a follow-up) the default subject should begin with the
>four characters "Re:", and the "References" line is required" (RFC 1036,
>2.1.4 Subject).
Message-ID:
Organization: iamnotageek.com
User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
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| | From: | Vanguard | | Subject: | Re: Bouncing websites | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:43:55 -0600 |
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| "G. Morgan" wrote in message
news:42060c21.91851415@schoolofhardknocks.edu...
> Subject: Re: Bouncing websites
> Newsgroup: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
> => Vanguard <= wrote:
>
>>
>>What's with the *fake* reply post (by using "Re:" in your
>>*originating*
>>post)? The References header is missing in your "reply" to point back
>>to a parent post. "If the message is submitted in response to another
>>message (e.g., is a follow-up) the default subject should begin with
>>the
>>four characters "Re:", and the "References" line is required" (RFC
>>1036,
>>2.1.4 Subject).
>
>
> Message-ID:
> Organization: iamnotageek.com
> User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
> X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
So, what, you're sayhing that vBulletin Gateway doesn't comply with RFC
standards regarding Usenet posting? Nah, couldn't be some hack job
isn't compliant. From
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=65152, "This hack
provides a gateway from vBulletin forums to the USENET. It allows forum
members to read newsgroup messages as well as to send posts to the
newsgroups. In a nutshell, it turns vBulletin forums into a basic
function news reader." So it is a very crappy and non-compliant NNTP
client. Geez, even newbies seem to figure out how to use OE, Forte,
Thunderbird, and other NNTP agents. Maybe you meant, "Oh, a post from
one of those, um, low-wattage usenet-challenged forum users."
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| | From: | G. Morgan | | Subject: | Re: Bouncing websites | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:16:30 -0600 |
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| Subject: Re: Bouncing websites
Newsgroup: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
=> Vanguard <= wrote:
>"G. Morgan" wrote in message
>news:42060c21.91851415@schoolofhardknocks.edu...
>> Subject: Re: Bouncing websites
>> Newsgroup: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
>> => Vanguard <= wrote:
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>>>
>>>What's with the *fake* reply post (by using "Re:" in your
>>>*originating*
>>>post)? The References header is missing in your "reply" to point back
>>>to a parent post. "If the message is submitted in response to another
>>>message (e.g., is a follow-up) the default subject should begin with
>>>the
>>>four characters "Re:", and the "References" line is required" (RFC
>>>1036,
>>>2.1.4 Subject).
>>
>>
>> Message-ID:
>> Organization: iamnotageek.com
>> User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
>> X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
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>
>So, what, you're sayhing that vBulletin Gateway doesn't comply with RFC
>standards regarding Usenet posting?
Did I say that? No, I didn't.
I'm now saying the OP was posted in the vBulletin forum, and never made it to
Usenet for some reason. Had you seen the link,
http://www.iamnotageek.com/showthread.php?t=805890 you would have noticed that.
> Nah, couldn't be some hack job
>isn't compliant. From
>http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=65152, "This hack
>provides a gateway from vBulletin forums to the USENET. It allows forum
>members to read newsgroup messages as well as to send posts to the
>newsgroups. In a nutshell, it turns vBulletin forums into a basic
>function news reader."
I'm well aware of what that mod does. I was looking into vBulletin for one of
my sites. I don't want to pay the ridiculous price for the software though. I
installed pHPbb with a similar mod and it seems to work pretty well. The
problem with integrating "flat" web forums with Usenet is the threading gets out
of sync. sometimes.
> So it is a very crappy and non-compliant NNTP
>client.
It's not really a client per se. more of a portal.
> Geez, even newbies seem to figure out how to use OE, Forte,
>Thunderbird, and other NNTP agents.
Judging by all the dumb ass questions that get asked in 24houridiot.fuckupdesk,
I would have to disagree with you.
> Maybe you meant, "Oh, a post from
>one of those, um, low-wattage usenet-challenged forum users."
No. I meant exactly what I wrote, I copied the relevant part of the posting
header. It explained to you why "What's with the *fake* reply post" was an
invalid statement.
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| | From: | Vanguard | | Subject: | Re: Bouncing websites | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:24:46 -0600 |
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| "G. Morgan" wrote in message
news:41f97397.15325086@news.individual.net...
> Subject: Re: Bouncing websites
> Newsgroup: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
> => Vanguard <= wrote:
>
>>"G. Morgan" wrote in message
>>news:42060c21.91851415@schoolofhardknocks.edu...
>>> Subject: Re: Bouncing websites
>>> Newsgroup: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
>>> => Vanguard <= wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>What's with the *fake* reply post (by using "Re:" in your
>>>>*originating*
>>>>post)? The References header is missing in your "reply" to point
>>>>back
>>>>to a parent post. "If the message is submitted in response to
>>>>another
>>>>message (e.g., is a follow-up) the default subject should begin with
>>>>the
>>>>four characters "Re:", and the "References" line is required" (RFC
>>>>1036,
>>>>2.1.4 Subject).
>>>
>>>
>>> Message-ID:
>>> Organization: iamnotageek.com
>>> User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
>>> X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
>>
>>
>>So, what, you're sayhing that vBulletin Gateway doesn't comply with
>>RFC
>>standards regarding Usenet posting?
>
> Did I say that? No, I didn't.
>
> I'm now saying the OP was posted in the vBulletin forum, and never
> made it to
> Usenet for some reason. Had you seen the link,
> http://www.iamnotageek.com/showthread.php?t=805890 you would have
> noticed that.
>
>
>> Nah, couldn't be some hack job
>>isn't compliant. From
>>http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=65152, "This hack
>>provides a gateway from vBulletin forums to the USENET. It allows
>>forum
>>members to read newsgroup messages as well as to send posts to the
>>newsgroups. In a nutshell, it turns vBulletin forums into a basic
>>function news reader."
>
> I'm well aware of what that mod does. I was looking into vBulletin
> for one of
> my sites. I don't want to pay the ridiculous price for the software
> though. I
> installed pHPbb with a similar mod and it seems to work pretty well.
> The
> problem with integrating "flat" web forums with Usenet is the
> threading gets out
> of sync. sometimes.
>
>> So it is a very crappy and non-compliant NNTP
>>client.
>
> It's not really a client per se. more of a portal.
>
>
>> Geez, even newbies seem to figure out how to use OE, Forte,
>>Thunderbird, and other NNTP agents.
>
> Judging by all the dumb ass questions that get asked in
> 24houridiot.fuckupdesk,
> I would have to disagree with you.
>
>> Maybe you meant, "Oh, a post from
>>one of those, um, low-wattage usenet-challenged forum users."
>
> No. I meant exactly what I wrote, I copied the relevant part of the
> posting
> header. It explained to you why "What's with the *fake* reply post"
> was an
> invalid statement.
It has "Re:" in the Subject so it's a reply. But wait, it has no
References header so it's not a reply. It's not a fake reply if it
doesn't have the References header because it's not a reply, but yes it
was a reply and hence the "Re:" prefix in the subject and the body
showing it was a reply. It is, it's not.
Lots of Nixies like to point out that OE has its faults as an NNTP
client. Well, now I can point at portaled posts and say, "Well, it's
not as bad as them."
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| | From: | samuel | | Subject: | Re: Bouncing websites | | Date: | 23 Jan 2005 19:41:50 GMT |
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| EyesBlack wrote in
news:EyesBlack.1jbsp1@no-mx.forums.iamnotageek.com:
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> no one know about this?
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
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| | From: | James Mourby | | Subject: | Re: Bouncing websites | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:23:48 -0000 |
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"EyesBlack" wrote in message
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> no one know about this?
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about what?
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